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October 1, 2009

Commentary: Hollywood is clueless when it comes to Polanski

Posted: 02:21 PM ET
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Filed under: Commentary

By Roland S. Martin

CNN Political Contributor

Editor's note: A nationally syndicated columnist, Roland S. Martin is the author of "Listening to the Spirit Within: 50 Perspectives on Faith" and "Speak, Brother! A Black Man's View of America." Visit his Web site for more information.

If a famous child actress such as Tatum O’Neal, Anna Paquin, Dakota Fanning or Natalie Portman were raped by a stalker who pleaded guilty to the crime and then fled the country and lived a life of luxury in Europe for 32 years, would Hollywood heavyweights be standing behind the convicted rapist?

Hell no.

So exactly what is the difference between a “nobody” raping a famous child actress and Oscar-winning director Roman Polanski admitting to raping a 13-year-old girl in 1977? Rape is rape and whether the rapist is a visionary filmmaker or a low-life nobody, they should rot in jail for their pathetic behavior.

Martin Scorsese. Harvey Weinstein. Debra Winger. Michael Mann. Woody Allen. Mike Nichols. They are all protesting the arrest of Polanski, 76, in Switzerland in the decades-old rape case, with even Winger reducing the case to “minor technicalities” and saying she awaits his next “masterpiece.”

Even Whoopi Goldberg, whose analysis on ABC’s “The View” is often spot on, clearly lost her senses on this one, saying: "I know it wasn't rape-rape. I think it was something else, but I don't believe it was rape-rape.

"He pled guilty to having sex with a minor and he went to jail, and when they let him out he said 'You know what, this guy's going to give me 100 years in jail. I'm not staying'. And that's why he left."

Do any of these people have any idea how stupid, narcissistic and sick they sound?

The facts in this case are not in dispute. Polanski, then 44 years old, raped Samantha Gailey, who was 13 years old at the time. She testified that Polanski gave her part of a Quaalude tablet and champagne, took a bunch of nude photos of her and performed various sex acts, including intercourse. Prosecutors allowed Polanski to plea bargain if he admitted to unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor.

He spent 42 days in prison while undergoing psychological testing and the judge indicated he might sentence him to another 48 days in prison. He didn’t want to stick around for the added jail time and decided to use his fame and fortune and took off for France, where he was welcomed with open arms.

His case has long been discussed in Hollywood and legal circles. The Los Angeles prosecutor’s office has been accused of not caring about seeing that justice was served by not seeking the extradition of Polanski when he visited countries where the U.S. has an extradition agreement. They contend that they tried to have Polanski arrested many times over the years with no success.

But I really don’t care. This miscreant of a man, no matter how famous and talented, must face the U.S. justice system for what he did. This was no “small problem,” as one of his longtime friends called it.

In an op-ed piece in The Independent, a U.K. paper, Weinstein wrote: “It is a shocking way to treat such a man. Polanski went through the Holocaust and the murder of his wife, Sharon Tate, by the Manson family. How do you go from the Holocaust to the Manson family with any sort of dignity? In those circumstances, most people could not contribute to art and make the kind of beautiful movies he continues to make.”

So now he’s the damn victim. Hey, Harvey, the man forced himself on a 13-year-old girl! His wife was the victim of a brutal crime and so was Samantha Gailey. And I’m sorry, but the Holocaust isn’t a get-out-of-jail-free card. This sadistic man took advantage of a 13-year-old girl and it’s time for him to pay the price.

This is not the case of two teenagers having consensual oral sex. This is not two adults having consensual sex. This is a man who was 31 years older than the victim forcing her to have sex. No man, director or not, should be allowed to get away with this.

As a Christian, I am taught to have love and compassion for everyone. We are taught to hate the sin and love the sinner. I can pray for the soul of Roman Polanski and hope that God forgives him for his sin but the Lord can deal with this man just as easily in a jail cell, as opposed to his palatial pad in France.

Maybe we also need to pray for these depraved Hollywood folks who clearly are so out of touch with reality that they haven’t figured out that this is called life; it’s not a movie. The only appropriate ending to this story is Polanski coming back to the United States, standing before a judge, and accepting his fate. And when he is led off in handcuffs, then we can say this sad and pathetic story has come to its rightful conclusion.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Roland Martin.


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Eyes Wide Open   October 1st, 2009 7:54 pm ET

When the infamous Texas sodomy case was overturned by the SCOTUS many people predicted that it wouldn't be long before pedophilia was an accepted practice.
Well, you now have PROOF that a very vocal and influential group of people are in favor of it.
All these people trying to soft-sell this crime is proof that hollywood has no morals and sees a no problem with sex with underage kids as long as that person is like-able and has accomplishments.
It's further proof that Hollywood is an echo chamber and people who want to please others around them and that in their products they are gradually seducing the public into looser and looser morals by making movies that make the perverse OK.


James McGuire   October 1st, 2009 7:56 pm ET

I couldn't agree with more with Mr. Martin. It's truly a sad day when the Hollywood elites believe that because someone has artistic talents they are above the law. Polanski is a sick twisted little man who because of his wealth has been able to avoid the prison time any average person what have received. If he had been a black street person he'd be held in complete contempt. Shame on Debra Winger for calling him a victim. She should rot in hell with him.


Bonny   October 1st, 2009 7:56 pm ET

Amen, Roland.


Judy   October 1st, 2009 7:57 pm ET

This writer is absolutely correct. It's nice to know that famous people such as Polanski don't get a pass from those who care about justice. He deserves years in prison for rape and extra time for fleeing the country. I hope justice is served....quickly!


Terry E. May   October 1st, 2009 7:58 pm ET

Right on, Roland. Well said.


Vince   October 1st, 2009 7:58 pm ET

Only 84 days in jail for raping a 13 year old girl? That's what wrong with our legal system.


ChildVictim   October 1st, 2009 8:02 pm ET

Thank you. Finally, a well written article that has the brass to call this man for what he is: monster. The opening paragraph underscores the lie and hypocrisy infesting those who support this admitted felon. As a victim of a similar monster at the same age, I encourage America and the world to speak up for what is right and bring shame to all who would support Polanski.


Bill   October 1st, 2009 8:04 pm ET

Every single one of the people on that petition supporting this rapist should be boycotted.

I will NEVER support another one of them. I will not watch their movies, shows, etc.


Michael Hsu   October 1st, 2009 8:05 pm ET

Hollywood is rascist! Had it been a black man who raped a 13-yr old white girl, the black man would've been hung! (Just look at the US history books for numerous examples of this.) But, somehow because Roman was white, that's OK?


Sandy   October 1st, 2009 8:06 pm ET

I agree with you entirely. Any person that breaks the law, ecspecially against an innocent child, deserves to pay the price. These people that are showing pity for him should be showing pity to the girl he took from. People in this time have thier morals all backwards and should re evaluate themselves. If this were something that happened to one of thier daughters they would not take such a strong stand for this pathetic man. Who cares what he has suffered through? That is no excuse to get away with raping a child.


Woman   October 1st, 2009 8:06 pm ET

It's about time someone out there is getting it right!!! Good job, Roland!


William   October 1st, 2009 8:07 pm ET

Amen! Thank you for saying exactly what's been on my mind ever since the Hollywood-left took their stance for their favorite rapist!


tony   October 1st, 2009 8:07 pm ET

The rapist belongs in jail. He plead guilty. He ran away to avoid his punishment. He should receive a stiffer sentence for running away.
It makes no difference if it was 1 month ago, 10 years ago or 50 years ago that he ran away. Who cares what a scumbag like Woody Allen thinks or says. He belong in jail too!


Kyle   October 1st, 2009 8:07 pm ET

I really don't care about Polanski's movies.

I do care that he had arranged a plea bargain that he judge was going to do an end run on.
I do care that he was sentenced to a psych evaluation in a maximum security prison, hardly standard.
I do care that it has been over 3 decades since the crime was committed.

But mostly I care that the victim, now in her 40s and clearly able to make decisions for herself, want the whole thing dropped.


Thea123   October 1st, 2009 8:10 pm ET

A forty + year old man invites a 13 yo to his home for nude "photos," drugs her, plies her with etoh, rapes here vaginally and anually. No wonder Woody Allen loves him. Is it possible that there is a serious problem with pedophilia in Hollywood. Gee. Ya think?


Tara   October 1st, 2009 8:10 pm ET

I have a feeling if this 13 year old girl was the daughter of Martin Scorsese, Harvey Weinstein,Debra Winger, Michael Mann, Woody Allen or Mike Nichols , they wouldn't feel the same. I have a feeling they wouldn't care what kind of talent he has. Well, maybe not in Woody's case, since he IS married to his daughter. Sick individuals


Dennis twomey   October 1st, 2009 8:10 pm ET

Roland,

Thank you for articulating the thoughts of 99% of America. Your brief narrative of the case with insightfulness of a rational human lets me believe there are commontators who still have a grip about realit...

Thank you again,

Dennis Twomey


David   October 1st, 2009 8:12 pm ET

My first time commenting ever on a blog...that being said...first time ever feeling so strong about what is right and what is wrong...and Roland...your spot on! Nice post.


Rick Ruth   October 1st, 2009 8:12 pm ET

Thank God I'm finally hearing some sanity in the opinions about this case. And thank you, Mr. Martin, for speaking up. Artistic ability shouldn't put anyone above the law.


Paula   October 1st, 2009 8:12 pm ET

Will Roman Polansky become famous as Michael Jackson when he dies? Not likely. But because of Roman's age and the length of time since this rape took place, he's being exonerated by his "artistic" colleagues in Hollyweird for deplorable and illegal acts that - if found guilty - would put any working class rapist in jail for many, MANY years. Such is life in la-la land. Perhaps with new technologies like YouTube, real people can start creating movies and content which will remove these high paid, high profile goof-balls from their public soapboxes. Whoopie! Shame on you!


La Viro   October 1st, 2009 8:13 pm ET

Why is it that Jews think they are above the law?

If a gentile had raped a 13 year old girl and then fled the country, the Jews in Hollywood would be calling for his head on a platter.

But when one of their fellow Jews is accused of the same crime, suddenly it becomes an outrageous punishment that be brought to justice.

Why should Polanski be above the law? Because he made a Holocaust film showcasing the oppression of his people? How does that make him above the law?

It's disturbing that the legal system has become a place where there are one set of rules of Gentiles, and another, more privileged set of rules for Jews.


Matt   October 1st, 2009 8:13 pm ET

A mother lets her 13yr old child go to a famous Hollywood Directors home....and he is to blame? You people need to grow up. The man is a masterpiece in the making. How many times has a a 13yr old lied? I am a 2nd grade school teacher and children lie all the time....Oh, by the way how many millions did she receive? Hmm....seems funny, she does not want to bring this up anymore....hmm, maybe she lied. Get your facts before you blog.


Rape Survivor   October 1st, 2009 8:17 pm ET

Roland, thank you for standing up to this horrible man and to Hollywood...and for speaking the truth. My first thought when I heard about the petition was that these people are crazy! As a rape survivor, my heart sank everytime I heard about the support for Mr. Polanski. Mr. Polanski, it is time that you "man up" and turn yourself in. There are NO possible excuses for what you did to that young girl. To the Hollywood elites who support Mr. Polanski, I will be boycotting your movies and tv shows...and will tell all of my friends to do the same.


Jim in FL   October 1st, 2009 8:17 pm ET

Mr. Martin,
I have disagreed with your politics more often than not. But on this one ..... I salute you ! I embrace every word you wrote. May you live long and prosper in otherwise holding political views contrary to many of mine. Amen brother!


joe m   October 1st, 2009 8:18 pm ET

excellent article mr. martin. and like yourself, it is beyond my comprehension why anyone in hollywood woudl stand up for this criminal. i'm am glad, however, that others in the industry are now voicing their opinions against polanski's supporters. when we become a country where we excuse the behavior of individuals who abuse children, we are lost. today, france withdrew their request to release polanski, citing that even 'he is not above the law'. and for those who've pushed forward the 'he's a brilliant artist' defence, my only question to them is, WHAT THE...! the choice to stand up for polanski is not simply a poor choice, but a completely inexplicable position to take. what distrubed me most where the women who were siding with this criminal. i wonder if polanski forced himself on their duaghters, sisters, mothers, friends, or themselves, if they'd feel the same way as they do now. thanks for helping give voice to what so many people have been thinking. polanski deserves to go to jail. he needs to be brought back. the original plea deal should be revoked b/c he fled. he should be charged with the original crimes. and finally, he should be further charged with evading the law. lastly, his name should be placed on a sexual predator list, with all the restrictions that come with it. i'm no expert, but i would think that the vicitm will finally gain closure once polanski is in jail.


Carrie   October 1st, 2009 8:20 pm ET

You put it very well, Roland. I have felt nothing but disgust for Roman Polanski since his crime was first made public. Shame on Whoopi and Debra for championing his cause. As for Woody Allen–well, no surprise there that he supports a child rapist. When will people stop worshipping the Hollywood elite? They sure as heck do not speak for me. Roman Polanski never got what he deserved. He is a perfect example of the triumph of evil in our society.


Bobby Jones   October 1st, 2009 8:22 pm ET

Thank you, Roland. Thank you. This scumbag needs to stay in Jail. Rape is never OK!

And Roman, you should have known better than to do this. C'mon, dude. At least apologise to the victim and to all your fans out there. C'mon, dude!! Old Man!! Whatever you are? Director!!


AL   October 1st, 2009 8:22 pm ET

Mr. Martin, I read with interest your explanation why Mr. Polanski should be facing trial in America, until I read your comment that "France accepted him with open arms". Are you implying that France is in support of criminals who excape the US justice system? I am surprised that a man of color like you do use such "bigot" arguments which builds anger and divise the people of this world. I do not find the "Martin Luther King" flavor to your argument... which I decided to ignore in my opinion for this news event.


Chris   October 1st, 2009 8:22 pm ET

We all need to boycott the hollywood celebs that signed that petition. Its truly disgusting.


HS   October 1st, 2009 8:23 pm ET

I completely agree with Mr. Martin's sentiments. Polanski was convicted of a heinous crime, which should not be overlooked. There is also the appalling issue of such a incredibly brief sentence. But I take great exception to the comments of Eyes Wide Open – the statement by a handful of prominent people is not proof of anything about Hollywood or the evolution from the dismissal of a Texas sodomy case. I am a card-carrying, died in the wool pinko Liberal (and proud of it) and find Polanksi's act of rape and subsequent flight to be unquestionably wrong and apalling. As are the feelings of most of my "ilk." I suggest Eyes Wide Open develop a better sense of when to call something "proof." You seem to be just looking for so-called evidence for your pre-concevied opinions!


ladyjatbay   October 1st, 2009 8:25 pm ET

This is not a black and white case. There are a lot of grey areas here and btw, I don't recall Michael Jackson spending time behind bars. This is a wonderful case for an ethics class though. I think you should watch the documentary and realize that nothing in life is ever exactly as it seems. RP was fed up with the treatment he was getting from the system. And yes, he had money. There are a lot of child molestors, rapists, and murders who still run the streets. Why don't you concentrate your energy on them. Roman Polanski has contributed to society. Those other bad guys continue to rape, molest, and murder. As I said, it is not black and white.


jh St.Louis MO   October 1st, 2009 8:26 pm ET

Well said Mr. Martin and I lean about as far to the left as anyone can.

This man should stand up and face the music. You play, you pay.


Tanya   October 1st, 2009 8:26 pm ET

Where is the petition for the people who SUPPORT the arrest of this child rapist to sign?

Your article hit the mark and I applaud you for being so vocal. I have lost all respect for the Hollywood scum who have supported him and I will not support them ever again. Perhaps we need to need to inundate the studios/network stations/advertisers who support those Hollywood scum to let them know this is not acceptable and will not be tolerated.


Mona   October 1st, 2009 8:28 pm ET

I guess these people who are defending this sicko creep must also be for letting all the priests and ministers who have done things to children off too. After all they provide comfort to other people. Sheesh get a brain people, rape is rape....no matter who is doing it.


Amy   October 1st, 2009 8:29 pm ET

Roland, Thank you. I was very worried that my family and friends were the only people in America who felt that what this man did was terribly wrong and that he needed to be punished. It is sad that these people who signed the petition in support of this monster are the ones that are shaping much of the next generation's morals by making movies and tv shows that support their agenda. I hope America wakes up!


William   October 1st, 2009 8:29 pm ET

I don't agree with a many of your editorials, but this one is spot on. Well said young man!

Mr. Polanski could have dealt with this issue years ago, but instead, he chose to skirt his punishment. This could be a lesson for us all; oddly enough, Hollywood misses the symbolism.


dave   October 1st, 2009 8:29 pm ET

Matt ... He already confessed to the crime! He had pictures of his actions and none of this was in dispute ( hence the pleading guilty part) . I cannot believe you are a teacher. Maybe someday I can be a " masterpiece" as you say, so I can destroy lives and be adored for it.

And may my children never be in you class


nwcanadian   October 1st, 2009 8:34 pm ET

I cannot understand why anyone would go out of their way to defend this man.


John Gauch   October 1st, 2009 8:36 pm ET

Clueless describes it in a word. I am stunned to think that *anyone* would be on Polanski's side on this issue. Do these people not have kids of their own? Can they not remember being 13 themselves? I just scratch my head in wonder...


Kyrie Eleison   October 1st, 2009 8:36 pm ET

So Roman Polansky has talent!!...to drug, rape, escape, flee justice and mock the US Judiciary System. Martin Scorsese, Harvey Weinstein, Debra Winger, Michael Mann, Mike Nichols and Woody Allen denounce his arrest and recognize his talents. Someone should launch an investigation on these talented fellows. We could all learn a few things about their talents.


littlemama   October 1st, 2009 8:36 pm ET

So many times in the past I've disagreed with Mr. Martin but in this case his opinion is on the money!

Polanski not only was convicted, but he pled guilty in order to receive a lighter sentence. Having a 13 year old daughter, my husband would be waiting outside of the jail after 42 days if this happened to her. Justice was not served in allowing Polanski to continue to enjoy the freedom he illegally sought. What are we teaching our children if we allow him to skirt the system?

If the Hollywood elite continue to stand by this man then the public should boycott their work in mass. Wakeup Hollywood and consider the real victim of such crimes!!


Jake   October 1st, 2009 8:36 pm ET

@Matt: "A mother lets her 13yr old child go to a famous Hollywood Directors home….and he is to blame?"

Its not about consent Matt. YOU know it. Even if it was consensual it was wrong AND illegal.

That's the point of the celebrated "To catch a Predator" Dateline series. In those episodes, the producers set out to entrap scums like Polanski by having seemingly minors invite johns over for some "fun". If people who got entrapped who didn't actually break any law except for showing up get the slammer. Polanski who actually committed the act should get a MUCH stiffer sentence.


Darlene   October 1st, 2009 8:38 pm ET

Maybe those Hollywood idiots that support this monster should talk to a child that was molested by another monster and hear the devastation inflicted first hand. Unfortunately there are enough children out there that they can speak with. Maybe they should hear how innocence was lost, light was dimmed in a young persons eyes and trust was forever banished. Maybe they will understand how wrong they are, just maybe....


E. Lewis   October 1st, 2009 8:39 pm ET

Thank you for saying this. As a mother of teenage girls i can't even read the details of this case. Rape is rape, it is a heinous crime and anyone who confesses to it or is convicted should be punished accordingly.


Jennifer   October 1st, 2009 8:40 pm ET

Shame on you, Matt.

His guilt isn't in question. He's already admitted to his shameful act. What's in question is how to handle it now. And Mr. Martin, i agree with you with all my heart.

Shame on you, Matt. I hope the parents at your school know who you are.


chuck day   October 1st, 2009 8:41 pm ET

Thank you for a well thought out commentary. The victim should be applaude for recovering and making her life whole. Polanski should ( must ) do his time like a man. Accepting responsibility is the only thing that will set him free.


smh for justice   October 1st, 2009 8:43 pm ET

Kyle – your points are well-noted and I agree. Hard to stand up to the 'stoning committee' here. Although what took place was certainly wrong and punishable, I don't buy the forcible rape implication which the media and all these respondents love to shout! What took place was wrong and misfotunate for all, but there's more to the story. The victim wants it over and I dare say, if a purely "forceful" act took place, I deny she'd take this stance. Is it right to entice or coerce a pubescent teen into taking a drug, alcohol, and having sex? No, of course not, but I do believe there was some culpabilty on the part of the victim. And her admission that the courts 'have done more harm than Polanski' speaks volumes.


leavenworth reader   October 1st, 2009 8:44 pm ET

To Michael Hsu and La Viro How did this turn into a discussion of race or ethnicity? This is a discussion of right and wrong and rape is wrong no matter the ethnicity of the perpetrator. Stick with the discussion which is a rapist was allowed to go free because he is famous and has money. And for Matt the second grade school teacher, I don't know where you teach, but you need to be in another profession if you believe for any reason that a 44 year old man, under any circumstance, is not responsible for committing rape by having sex with a 13 year old, whether consensual or not. I hope to hell you aren't teaching anywhere near any of my family members and I hope you rot in hell with Roman Polanski for advocating the rape of young children,.


Faye   October 1st, 2009 8:45 pm ET

I too call for a boycott of all who signed this petition. Don't watch their movies and tv shows, don't buy their products, and don't buy their dvds. Better yet find out the names and contact information of the corporations and studios who pay these jerks and tie up their phone lines. Let them know we won't spend our money on rapists and their supporters. Harvey Weinstein, Whoopi Goldberg, Natalie Portman, Woody Allen (of course YOU would sign the petition), Michael Man, Tilda Swinton, and all the rest. You should be ashamed but of course one would have to be human to feel that emotion.


Brigitte   October 1st, 2009 8:46 pm ET

Thank you Mr. Martin for this commentary. I do agree with everything you say. The message supporters of Mr. Polanski send to young girls is that 'Hey if the guy you are with is a celebrity, it is ok for him to rape you'.
In my eyes the only person allowed to support Polanski is the victim. And not because he made beautiful movies, but because she finally wants to live her life in peace.


Kiki   October 1st, 2009 8:46 pm ET

Raping and sodomizing a drugged child deserves a life sentence. Full stop.


Gracie   October 1st, 2009 8:47 pm ET

If this behavior is acceptable for Mr. Polanski because he is a genius movie director, and his accomplishments excuse him from his behavior, why is it not then true that dopers who do cirmes cannot use their impoverished upbringings as justification for the crimes they do?


Christine Farley   October 1st, 2009 8:49 pm ET

My daughter and I wonder how all those Hollywood stars and Polanski feel about lettting the Manson family members go, after all that crime is now very old – they regret their actions, it appears, and are begging to get out


JMartin   October 1st, 2009 8:52 pm ET

Thank you Roland for speaking the truth that some are unwilling to hear-


outraged   October 1st, 2009 8:53 pm ET

He spent 42 days locked and he feared another 48 days behind bars, yet the Hollywood crowd makes it sound like he faced the death penalty. A meager 90 days for raping a 13 year old! Yet another example of a woeful criminal justice system that unleashes pedophiles on children like Elizabeth Smart and Jaycie Dugard.


Great Northwest   October 1st, 2009 8:57 pm ET

Hey Matt

He CONFESSED to the crime! Get your facts straight before you blog.

To all:

Boycott all the Hollyweirds who signed the petition in favor of the rapist!


Eugene   October 1st, 2009 8:58 pm ET

Thank you Roland for expressing so eloquently the thoughts of most of the citizens of this country. Your logic is irrefutable , except of course by someone with an immoral agenda.


Mack   October 1st, 2009 8:58 pm ET

I say, move on. As a taxpayer, I do not want to pay for some prosecutor to get into politics by jaling a famous man. Isn't the point of justice to right the victim? Where is the victim here? Isn't she the one begging to let this case to rest?
There are many comments here condemning Polanski. What about the girl's mother? The mother who sent her child to Jack Nicholson's party house ALONE? Many of you have teenage daughters. Would you send your daughter alone for a photoshoot to Charli Sheen's house during his drug fueled sexcapades? And if you did, would your motive be other than money? Can you think of another one? If someone is cynical enough to sell their own child, do you really believe they make a point of advertising child's real age?
I say move on. The girl, now a woman, moved on. What's the point of this sharade? Nothing in Polanski's life after this crime suggest he's a pedophile or a sadist (by the way, I cannot figure out why he was referred to as sadist).
So many Christians here, so little forgivness...


Peter   October 1st, 2009 8:59 pm ET

have you read the CNN news piece interviewing the victim, that she forgave him long time ago, and this whole current publicity does her harm that makes the past crime pale in comparison?

have you read about the prosecutors who made a deal with Polanski's attorneys, and it was not honored by the justice system? and that the accused one fled because he was afraid that the judge would withdraw from the previously reached agreement?

you are so two faced, ignorant, opinionated, and narrow-minded. do you see any difference between "rape" and "having sex with minor"? visibly not.

and you have no compassion for others, especially for the victim. you think that if even the victim calls for dismissing the case, you don't care about her.

people like you follow books to the letter, not trying to understand the meaning behind the letters.


AJ   October 1st, 2009 9:01 pm ET

For several years now I have been sickened by the way the US legal system has become more and more biased. In the 21st century, fame and fortune are now the basis for immunity to prosecution. Roman Polanski will likely walk away from this with nothing more than a slap on the wrist, and probably much less than that if we look at the law's track record with the likes of Michael Jackson, Kobe Bryant, OJ, etc.

How many of these people need to get away with sickening crimes before the country wakes up and does something about it? How, you might say? This one is easy. The one thing that will likely have the biggest effect on this case is the ridiculous petition being circulated around Hollywood. Does anyone know if a complete list of those who have signed this petition has been posted yet? Once it is, I recommend a boycott of any project associated with these sick self-important egotistical rape-supporting degenerates.


themoi   October 1st, 2009 9:03 pm ET

Somebody needs to "out" all the celebrities who are in favor of dropping the charges so those of us who still have our morals, brains and wits about us can boycott any TV, movies, etc. that these idiots do.

"Power, Privledge and Justice" eh? Sounds like they need less Power and Privledge and a good old open can of whup Justice opened on them.


RLny   October 1st, 2009 9:04 pm ET

I do feel for the victim – who says she's moved on and does not need Polanski to be punished – who is forced to re-live this publicly again and again. But...if Polanski had manned up years ago and faced the legal system, this wouldn't have dragged out for so long. So that's his fault too.

It seems weird to me that Michael Jackson, who was never convicted, got a reputation and was mocked as a child molester (and of course I don't know what really happened there), yet Polanski, who not only admitted guilt for certain, and then ran away, is still revered by his peers.


JakeN   October 1st, 2009 9:05 pm ET

Why did it take this long for a mainstream newsperson to face up to this? Thank you, Roland Martin, for being apparently the only one with the courage to state what we average people immediately recognized as the truth of this matter. I'm ashamed of the rest of them.


James   October 1st, 2009 9:05 pm ET

Its clear to me Martin doesnt have the facts as usual hes posted on his blog only those who agree with him , lets see if he posts mine ?

Its very clear that Martin has not read nor seen no asked questions but has only relied to what hes heard or seen on tv all the gossip shows and now I consider CNN in that group .

Try to investigate before you blog Martin .


InLA   October 1st, 2009 9:07 pm ET

I believe he should face justice. Absolutely. And so should the priests who abuse children and when found out are only removed from their parish or relocated or the pastors who indulge in illegal behavior, be it drugs or sexual misconduct. And so should everyone who doesn't abide by the law. That is why the law exists. That someone is talented, famous or well-respected, doesn't excuse their criminal conduct.


Tom   October 1st, 2009 9:10 pm ET

I agree, Roland. Roman Polanski has suffered immensely in his life, no doubt about that, and I hope the best for him, but he cannot be allowed to escape consequences for what he did to that girl. He has to face up to it.


PA   October 1st, 2009 9:14 pm ET

Very weird that most commenters here write something about how bad everything is and how rotten Hollywood is and how Mr. Martin is right and then they suggest .... to go AGAINST the wishes of the victim who says that it only hurts her more to continue this whole thing. If the victim wants it dropped, why are all of you unable to finally chose the side of the victim? Isn't it about time to think about the victim? Why is revenge so much more important for you than the well-being of the victim? Normally when the victim drops the charges the case is over. So don't sit there pretending to be such great people if you are the ones who now want to hurt the victim more.


Chas   October 1st, 2009 9:14 pm ET

Martin,
"Hollywood" is the capitol of solipsism. What else do you expect?


Ken Hansen   October 1st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

Can someone give me some hard info as to how I could join a legitimate boycott of all who have defended this guy? Please tell us how to really make the studios and theaters financially wince that promote stars that think talented pedophiles should not be prosecuted. Can someone really start a grass roots plan to really make this boycott something that makes stars think twice....number one hit them in their paychecks by heavily boycotting their output and products and hit them again by denying them any positive publicity.


theoneandonlyed   October 1st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

Matt says:
"A mother lets her 13yr old child go to a famous Hollywood Directors home….and he is to blame? You people need to grow up. "

Well yes, Matt, he *is* to blame. The mother certainly is not to be admired, and should almost certainly be charged with neglect, and certainly if the child was still a child, then some intervention on the part of the relevant protective services agency would be warranted.

But none of that excuses the fact that Mr. Polanski, a respected member of society at the time, chose to commit a despicable crime. None of that absolves him of guilt, or responsibility...nor does being, as you put it, "a masterpiece". None of that makes him any less than 100% responsible for his actions on that night.

Put another way Matt, I'm a musician, a drummer in a rock band no less. According to some, there's no more depraved class of people in existence. Yet I'm still entrusted to be around children; I still know right from wrong; and were I to harm any of those children, I think I'd spend a long, long time in prison, and I don't think telling the judge that "her mother really should've known better" would win me any time off.

So tell me, Matt, if a mother of one of the children in your class was to leave her child in your care, are you saying that it would be perfectly excusable for you to drug that child and have sex with him/her, and it would be the *mother's* fault? Perhaps Child Protective Services needs to be looking into YOU....


Joy Hughes   October 1st, 2009 9:16 pm ET

Thank you, Roland for this well-articulated, reasoned response to this circus of a case. What part of 'drugged and raped a thirteen year old girl' do these people not understand? I don't care how long it's been and it doesn't matter if the victim has 'forgiven' the perpetrator. The LAW was broken and he fled rather than face the consequences of his actions. I don't care how 'artistic' this pedophile is or what horrors he survived (and they were horrific). But he turned around and victimized a child, in spite of his own experiences, which makes the crime that more heinous. He should die in jail. There are plenty of would be actors, directors, and other creative types behind bars. Doesn't mean the deserve a pass for their crimes. Woody Allen should be in jail too.


Raye   October 1st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Thank you for being so clear in your condemnation of Polanski's sick criminal behavior.
There is no gray area in this case.


Julie   October 1st, 2009 9:19 pm ET

I agree....Amen Roland!


steve   October 1st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

Hollywood? That's why they invented the Atomic Bomb. Whoopi and the other supporters that believe rape is okay and they're immune from the law like Leona Helmsley.....come back to the real world or leave completely.


Palermo   October 1st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

There are a lot of questions about the plea deal in this case. Prosecutors do not simply offer plea deals of a much lesser charge when they know they have an open-and-shut case, so there is probably more to this than we know. This never went to trial and there was no testimony, so all the "facts" about this case are after the fact comments with no accountability.

The original judge should have honored the plea agreement instead of threatening not to after Polanski agreed, plead guilty, and was convicted in accordance with the plea bargain. He did not plead guilty to rape, and was never convicted of rape. Perhaps he would never have been convicted of the original charges in court...we will never know.

That said, he certainly needs to face the consequences of his actions. His fugitive status did not put his arguments in a good light, or him in a position to try to right any fault in the court system he may have perceived. He certainly moved freely around Europe for decades, and I find the statements that the prosecution made that they couldn't find him preposterous. When he was on-set making a movie, everyone in the world knew where he was...and they knew the address of his home in Switzerland for decades. It is odd for this to become such an immediate issue after all this time. I hope it is resolved soon for everyone closely involved.


Rav   October 1st, 2009 9:29 pm ET

Those who support him should be boycotted, as well as the companies who support them.
Regarding the post about the victim wanting all of this to go away: Of course the victim would want this all to go away, who wants to hear that famous and influential people support the criminal and have the world engaged in your life? – according to your comment, domestic violence is okay because the person stays?
No one should be above the law and there should never be a precedent set that if you have the money and influence to flee, you can get away with a crime.


beau   October 1st, 2009 9:30 pm ET

I do not care that this man is so accomplished. This man drugged and raped a 13 year old child. He was given a plea bargain deal but didn't like that scenario so he skipped the country. It doesn't matter that the victim wants this to go away. A lot of rape victims don't press charges: the sleazy criminals go free to repeat again. I will personally boycott all of his supporters. Polansky is a pedophile, make him serve his sentence and then kick him out of the country! P.S. I am sick and tired of people pulling the race or ethnic card!


Wesley   October 1st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

Does anyone watch what comes out of Hollywood? The "sexing" of younger and younger actresses. Put iCarley in a bikini, if you haven't kissed by age 10 you are a prude, etc. This is what they are pushing on us. I've just thought they were stupid, but maybe there is a sinister plot to make sex with minors allowable.

And Woody Allen is on his side? Can we say incest. Good grief.


Mikey T   October 1st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

Michael Hsu October 1st, 2009 8:05 pm ET

"Hollywood is rascist! Had it been a black man who raped a 13-yr old white girl, the black man would’ve been hung! (Just look at the US history books for numerous examples of this.) But, somehow because Roman was white, that’s OK?"

Michael Hsu...I have two words for you before you get on your race soapbox...."MICHAEL JACKSON"


Sandy Pennsylvania   October 1st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

I agree.
I’m sick of their lame statements. It’s a 30 year case because Roman Polanski made it a 30 year case. He’s had hard times. So have a lot of other people and they’re not raping children.

And the argument that they don’t want him to do prison time out of consideration for the rape victim. Give me a break! Give me a break!!

I don’t think I’ve ever read anything more narcissistic than that petition complaining that the police dared to interrupt their film festival and plans to honor a rapist. Hey, child rapists interrupt a lot of lives. God forbid this rapist interrupts their lives . And then they blame the police.


Cathy   October 1st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

Mr. Martin has written an excellant article. The law is the law........no one is above the law. Whether or not someone is famous, a member of clergy or a politician or any other person, they have no right to break the law, especially such a violent crime involving a child. People who support Mr. Polanski's position should ask themselves if they think it would be alright if he violated their child?
The law require that Mr. Polanski be returned to the USA to stand before the court.


Rape Survivor   October 1st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

There are actually 2 petitions for support of Polanski. You can find both by using your search engine. I would list the names of the people that are famous to the U.S., but I am guessing that my post would not reach the blog. I, too, am interested in a "grass roots" effort for a boycott. Does anyone have a suggestion to get the boycott started?


Kingston   October 1st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

Mr. Martin, it's refreshing to see that even a liberal apologist for Obama can be right one time out of a hundred!


Janice   October 1st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

To those point out that the victim has "forgiven" Polanski, know this... statutory rape has never been about the victim accusing the perpertrator. The point of statutory rape is that the victim is too young to know better.

It doesn't change the crime even if the victim changes her mind when she becomes an adult.

Every year countless adults get prosecuted for statutory rape AGAINST the wishes of the child, yet nobody in Hollywood stands up for them. No one in Hollywood says "aww shucks, that 13 year old is so in love with her 45 year old school teacher... why don't you just let them be?"


Frank   October 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Matt, you must be some piece of work. You claim to be a second grade teacher and then infer it's OK for reprobates to rape young girls because they probably lie about the details. Are you sure your not a second-grader? I don't think you have the intelligence or the sensitivity to be a teacher.


gerry   October 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Anyone who takes a bite out of his heart would die from the poison!!


Enough already   October 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

People have lost all sense of proportion, common sense and realism.
Today it's all extremes, either one way or the other and the media know so well how to whip up everybody's lurid imaginations and make money off these sensational stories. How chivalrous of you guys to come to the aid of the poor 13 yr-old girl when not that long ago women were men's properties. It's a good thing those times have passed but don't be fooled, there are 13 yr-olds and there are 13-yr olds and some 13-yr olds who want to be famous like to play with fire and know how to flirt and twist men around their little fingers. But when their game becomes serious how well they know to cry rape and their mothers see a nice cash cow. And yes, guys there's rape and there's rape. It's totally different when you're raped by some disgusting, stinking criminal holding a knife to your throat and body parts where you're terrified for your life, and rape that's more like an unwanted and shameful act of seduction and degradation. He didn't threaten her or cut her up, who knows if he was even fully aware of what he was doing given his state of mind following his wife's murder. He was in prison for 42 days, was evaluated as a non sex deviant, there was a plea deal that the media hounding judge reneged on, a settlement with the victim, who herself begs everyone to DROP IT! But all you self righteous strangers who have nothing to do with the case, you puritanical, judgmental hypocrites, you know better and all of you are absolutely sure that this guy is a horrible criminal rapist and must be brought to justice to the good ol' U.S. of A. where justice is always done. And then what, how many millions will be spent to give him probation, or maybe put him in jail for 5 years, 10 years, 15 years, so he can die there, to assuage your sense of outrage, all the while the really horrible rapists, those keeping their captives in their yards for 18 years remain free, continuing their crime spree. Grow some common sense, people!!!


Mullzey   October 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

Excellent commentary Roland. What I find most idiotic about the Pro Polanski argument is that it's been "30 plus years get over it". Well it's been 30 years BECAUSE POLANSKI RAN AWAY from his punishment. He cowardly ran away just like a pedophile. They can prey, attack and kill a child, but when it comes time for them to face their own punishment and suffering, they run and hide.

This man is a disgrace and I'm glad to hear that his supporters are decreasing in number. I hope they throw away the key to his cell.


mel   October 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

Here, here I agree whole-heartedly with Mr. Martin...Pay the price buddy, I don't care who you are!


jon   October 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

Roland Martin, as a loyal Republican, I officially take back every criticism I ever leveled against you. You are THE voice of reason on this subject. You give me hope that Repubs and Dems can see eye to eye one day! Keep fighting the good fight!


Shanmrock   October 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

I agree!!


Brian   October 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

The petition signers need to go in front of a room full of child rap victims and explain why it's OK to let him off the hook.


Mike MacDonald   October 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

your comments are right on .. any support for Polanski is beyond pathetic and reprehensible ..


Vince   October 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

Roland, thank you for expressing so eloquently what every decent person is thinking.


Jeffrey   October 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

Blah, blah, blah!

While I agree with all that has been said, it won't amount to a tinker's damn if we all keep spending money on Woody Allen, Debra WInger, Martin Scorsese, and Whoopi Goldberg films. These folks know where their next job is coming from and it ain't from people who know right from wrong.


Rhonda   October 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

Thank you Roland! Well put. I like you comment about Woody Allen too Joy. Put them in adjoining cells.


sargeanton   October 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

Right on. I don't think it could have been said better. I'm not sure Polanski should be sent up the river til he dies, but he must accept whatever sentence he gets.


Patrick   October 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

Roland thank you for speaking up! You are absolutely RIGHT!


Richard   October 1st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

At long last, a voice of reason. Brilliant piece, Mr. Martin. Roman Polanski is a pathetic individual who should spend the rest of his life behind bars paying for his heinous crimes–end of story.


Deanna   October 1st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

What the heck is rape-rape???
What does that even mean?


Chris   October 1st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

100% agree with you and would like to add that Hollywood is clueless on so many issues. They live in fantasy land and should keep their months shut when it comes to any issue of any importance.


Nancy   October 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

As much as I do agree with what was written, there is alot more to the story. The girl looked alot older than 13 and polanski had no idea she was underage. It was the 70s and everyone was always high/stoned and having sex everywhere. I believe the girl at the time lied about her age and that's why they tried to settle i think out of court as well.


Glenn Groglio   October 1st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

give the man a break!

his "victim" is over it why aren't you all???

and this has really nothing to do with Hollywood>


Toadstool   October 1st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

And who is standing behind him? None other than Woody (take your daughter to bed) Allen. Priceless! Not a one of his vast supporters has the backbone to honestly declare what they think. Afraid of their own seedy lives being exposed. It takes some wonderful adults and parents to stand up and point a finger at a 13 year old, like she asked for it, but there we have it. We also have Polanski grinning like a man that has gotten away with something that most of us in this world still find precious...a child's soul, childhood, honor, quality of life, reputation, and future...not to mention a few others. But damn...he's got talent!


Jeff   October 1st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

Great article. Couple more observations:

1. As a check on potential abuse, judges are not bound by the plea agreements reached between the prosecutors and defense attorneys. The judge is an independent entity that decides what's appropriate - s/he'll consider the prosecutor's recommendations but s/he is not required to follow it. So those of you saying RP was abused by the judicial system are wrong.

2. Woody Allen's endorsement here is laughable - didn't he leave his wife for his adopted daughter?!?!?!?

3. RP was arrested on his way to an awards ceremony - what a narcissist!

4. His flight from the law is by itself reprehensible, as is the french govemment shielding a confessed child molester.

Let him rot!


Bob   October 1st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

Right on Roland! Well said.


r. k. taylor   October 1st, 2009 9:57 pm ET

Mr. Martin...right on


KAT   October 1st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

totally agree with martin. we have laws to protect children from being harm by pedophiles. Hollywood is giving the Fox news machine ammo for sticking up for Polanski.


Andrew   October 1st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

Thanks Roland for being the voice of reason and finally someone saying Hollywood is wrong


Leonard Nemoy   October 1st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

victim says move on. it was 40 years ago. LA county does not have budget to fight a high profile case (and what if it LOST?).

make him pay a big fine to the victim and let's all move on.


WRosenberg   October 1st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

Amen. This man is a filthy predator and should be condemned as such by everyone with any heart.

I am ashamed for Hollywood and mortified that the victim herself is now saying we should just let it go.

Had the man just taken his punishment when it was given, he might have been worthy of forgiveness. Running like a coward just goes to prove that he is a man without conscience or soul.

And Mr. Martin, you are right. Had such a thing happened to a child of any of the mentioned celebrities, I daresay not one of them would rest until the criminal was buried under the jail.

Yes, oh famous Hollywood people, he is a brilliant film maker – but ask yourself...would you leave your children alone with him?


John   October 1st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

For those who have posted saying " the victim wants to move and and drop this" , How can you even say that? This crime is a felony. This is not just a crime against our society. Ii makes no difference that it happened years ago, it is a sick, gross, disgusting crime, that under no circumstance should go unpunished.
There is absolutely no circumstance that would mitigate the fact that a 44 year old man drugged and raped a 13 year old girl. At the time of the crime, she was legally, morally, and ethically unable to consent. He fled the country to avoid prosecution of a felony child rape case that he pled guilty to. Please dont defend this piece of trash.


Brandon   October 1st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

BOYCOTT ANY ACTOR OR MOVIE STUDIO THAT SIDES WITH CHILD RAPIST POLANSKI. BOYCOTT THEM AND GO ON OTHER WEBSITES AND ASK OTHERS TO BOYCOTT ANY FILM MAKER THAT SAYS IT IS "OKAY" FOR AN ADULT TO RAPE A CHILD.


Joe   October 1st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

Thank you for finally telling it like it is. Ask any one of these left-wing liberals if it was their 13 year old daughter that some 46 year old pervert gave alcohol and qualudes to and then had sex with her if it would be ok because he is an "Artist'". They think that the rules don't apply to them because the are a bunch of spoiled rich babies. But if it were their child and the tables were turned, they would be singing a different tune.


Teri   October 1st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

I have worked in the film industry for nearly 20 years, both in Hollywood and outside of California. I can honestly say that the majority of people I know want to put Polanski under the jail and not because of personal grudges with him – but simply because of what he did to this little girl.


Dan   October 1st, 2009 10:01 pm ET

Hollywood is filled with a bunch of idiots – why do we, as consumers feed their lifestyles?? We buy movies, watch them, get entertained, and somehow, someway have some kind of esteem for these goofballs – like we somehow know them or think that they deserve our respect. Hollywood seems to be our modern day Sodom and Gomorrah and remember what happened to that city. Hollywood = Perversive Tolerance and in some cases encourage lude, grotesque behavior.


April   October 1st, 2009 10:01 pm ET

I mean is anyone really surprised that WOODY ALLEN would jump to his defense? Both of them are nasty dirty old men.


Leonard Nemoy   October 1st, 2009 10:02 pm ET

PS: the reverse racism on this one from blacks in the media is sickening. what about your hero, Michael Jackson? I guess it's okay for a man to molest children (homosexually, in that case), over decades and decades, so long as he's black (or at least was as a child himself before doing everything he could to distance himself from being black).


Wayne   October 1st, 2009 10:02 pm ET

Who in the world do these Hollywood people think they are? Are we supposed to say, "Oh! Hollywood said set Polansky free, so I quess that's right thing to do."

They also said, "Vote for Obama!" I didn't.

They have this attitude that they are always right (or should I say left).
But, there are more important people in this country than movies stars. Have you ever seen how high garbage can pile up on the side of the street when Garbage Men go on strike.

I can live without my movies and their stars, but I can't live (and may even die) if my garbage is not picked up on a regular basis. And, you know what? The Garbage Men never assume that their jobs give them the right to say what is right.

And by the way, what in the world is "Rape Rape". Goldberg needs to come back down to reality.


Karen   October 1st, 2009 10:02 pm ET

Finally, somebody has hit the nail on the head! It does not matter how connected a person is; rape is rape and to rape a child is as low as it goes. Drag Polanski back and make him finally pay for his crime, regardless of whether or not the victim feels he should do so. God bless, you Roland. You're spot on.


Andrew Wilke   October 1st, 2009 10:03 pm ET

I couldn't disagree with you more. The other people at the house that night thought she was older than that, she received gobs of money from him, and most importantly, she wants it dropped....

....bad things happen under the influence of drugs and alcohol, and under these circumstances it's ok to let this man go, whether or not he's Roman Polanski or Joe the Plumber


Bob   October 1st, 2009 10:03 pm ET

Mr. Martin:

Thank you for this ... For the life of me I cannot see why these hollywood folks are rallying to his indefensible actions...


veryclear   October 1st, 2009 10:03 pm ET

more reason for nuking Hollywood from orbit


SCAMBUSTER   October 1st, 2009 10:03 pm ET

Absolutely phenomenal article! NOBODY deserves special treatment! Everybody is talented in their own way. Most are more talented than the pathetic idiots that call themselves stars. I hope they throw him in jail for 50 years! And they should put all who are coming to his defense in jail too!


Deborah   October 1st, 2009 10:03 pm ET

To LA VIRO aka non-thinking individual, who asked

"Why is it that Jews think they are above the law?"

I probably should not even dignify your ignorance, but I know plenty of Jews who think they are not above the law, and plenty of gentiles who do. People are people.

But to answer your direct question, maybe because this is a HUMAN thing to do, and HUMAN beings (similar to yourself) do ignorant things.

Crawl back under your rock.


Shannon   October 1st, 2009 10:03 pm ET

Thank you for being brave and smart enough to print the truth. I'm quite tired of the "Golden Hollywood Ticket". Shame on anyone who has the guts to protect someone who has performed such an unthinkable and horrific act. It is a test of integrity when someone is asked to weigh in on a case such as this. Do they have any? Clearly Hollywood has shown that many supremely lack it. And what if you were that child's parent? Then what? Forgive and forget? I think not. There is never a good enough excuse to violate a child. Never.


George Moore   October 1st, 2009 10:05 pm ET

I agree 100%. Too many think that childhood sexual abuse is a "little thing that happened a long time ago". As a survivor myself of sexual abuse, the scars, disfunctional behaviors, self-hatred and lack of faith in anything or anyone can go on for decades or even an entire life if the person does not get good therapy.

Polanski should be prosecuted just like any other pedophile. He is amongst the criminals that even murders and hardcore felons are smart enough to despise.

Smarten up Hollywood, you all are not above the law!!


Jackie   October 1st, 2009 10:05 pm ET

Mr. Martin,

Thank you for writing a succinct piece on this topic. Could you possibly publish the names of the individuals who signed the petition "demanding" the release of Polanski? I would like to boycott their work – something tells me I won't be going to the movies any time soon....


Brad   October 1st, 2009 10:06 pm ET

Finally, someone in the media who sees this for what it is. Good job Roland.


LouAz   October 1st, 2009 10:06 pm ET

Did he spend 48 days in jail or prison ? Just want to get things right about what happened then.
I agree that this fugative pedopile should serve whatever time the "guidelines" for raping a child suggested at that time. He also should serve some additional time for running out of the country to avoid sentencing and serving his time.


Dino   October 1st, 2009 10:06 pm ET

Amen Roland!

PA: Just because we are calling for his prosecution does not mean we are not thinking about the victim or that we just want revenge. We are thinking about all the future victims Roman Polanski could have and protecting them. We are thinking about fairness which occasionally, and in this case, involves punishment. We are thinking that he committed two crimes, the other being that left the country and that THAT needs to be punished as well.

Roman Polanski is a sex offender and should be treated as one.


WI cheesehead   October 1st, 2009 10:07 pm ET

PA apparently doesn't understand the American justice system. The crime is ultimately against the state. The victim doesn't bring charges...the state does. She can choose not to testify but she can't choose to drop charges.

For those who see this as a racial issue and believe had Mr. Polanski been black he wouldn't get away with it, let's simply recall the OJ case in which a famous black man got away with murder. The Polanski case is hardly about race...it may however, be about Hollywood elite since Robert Blake also got away with murdering his wife. Frankly, it was surprising Phil Spector was convicted!

Regardless, I, too, am 100% in agreement with Mr. Martin's position. He is absolutely correct. Those that believe Polanski should not be held accountable for his crime against this 13 year old and society, need to reexamine their value system. It is seriously askew.

(And for the record, I am about as far from conservative as they come.)


Perry Wilson   October 1st, 2009 10:07 pm ET

Martin, it is rare that I ever agree with you but on this occasion I could not have said it any better. She was a child. Rape is Rape. He should pay the price. Role on Roland.


Bob   October 1st, 2009 10:07 pm ET

Roland,

I, too, have not agreed with you in the past on certain politics but you absolutely drove the correct point home in this piece. We are a society of laws and those laws are suppose to be blind to race, sex, age and social status. Polanski broke the law and he should pay for his crime. Hollywood is radically out of touch with most of America at this point. Its very clear to me. I do wonder if Polanski had raped one of Hollywood's elites 13 year-old daughters if that would be approved of? Who knows. With Hollywood today, it just might be seen as "ok" which is truly sad.

Thanks again for a great piece.


Melanie   October 1st, 2009 10:08 pm ET

Well said! I completely agree. A committed felon should never be held in the lime light. Polanski is where he should be....in jail!


Harry   October 1st, 2009 10:08 pm ET

You are absolutely 100% correct sir. He commited a heinous crime, and should face the judge like anyone else would!


Shellibelli   October 1st, 2009 10:08 pm ET

it shows our stupid everyone is. MOre people were upset over Kanye dissing Taylor Swift at the MMA's than they are at a perv who "raped" raped a 13 year old girl.

Excerpts of the grand jru hearing can befound at smokinggun.com The victim was asked why she didnt do more to fight him off – her answer was that she was a afraid of him. THATS RAPE.


Hutch   October 1st, 2009 10:09 pm ET

In this case, the Hollywood folks are forgiving because many of them (not all) empathize with Polanksi's plight. Many of them have lived, and are likely still living, depraved, excentric lives...loaded with drugs, bizarre and oddly extravagant sex, not to mention the excessive opulence. This leads to the arrogant, delusional attitude the Hollywood folks so proudly display. Bottom line...of course they understand Polanski...there's a little bit Polanski in all of them.


Bill in Illinois   October 1st, 2009 10:09 pm ET

Thank you Roland. This just demonstrates that there are still 2 classes of people in this country and their are still two sets of laws. One for the "Haves" and one for all the rest of us. I seriously doubt that the Hollywood folks would be making such a stir over this were it one of us "rest of us" folks. I can see them jumping on the "rightous indignation" bandwagon if they thought it would get them some free publicity however.

Perhaps we could go to one set of laws applied equally to everyone. I realize that is radical thinking but maybe we could try it.


kck53   October 1st, 2009 10:09 pm ET

Like one of the other bloggers, I do not always concur with your opinion Roland, but on this occasion, I salute you for exposing the Hollywood sycophants who live in a world other than ours. I respect the fact that you laid them open and that you injected into the conversation your faith. I do not wear my faith on my sleeve, but it guides me in all I do and is the underpinning to my values and my morals. Thanks, and good job for defining a moral platform from which to proceed. Keep swinging!


Shellibelli   October 1st, 2009 10:09 pm ET

and by the way WHAT 13 year old would ever agree to anal sex with a virtual stranger? For this the scum gets a little over 40 days in jail??


angie1234   October 1st, 2009 10:09 pm ET

Right on Roland!!


sharon   October 1st, 2009 10:10 pm ET

Thank you! I was beginning to think I was the only one who thought he should be brought back here to face his punishment. I wonder how his supporters would feel if it was their 13 year old daughter that was raped and sodomized by a 40 year old man. Makes me sick!


kim   October 1st, 2009 10:10 pm ET

Oh by the way James get your facts straight before you blog. I suppose your a pedifile too! Oops maybe I don't have my facts straight. None-the-less a confession and he ran off to avoid the consequences, a coward too. I hope he gets life and in his case that shouldn't be too long. Perverts like this belong behind bars. God only knows how many others he has done this to. I used to think Angelica Huston was a great actress and film maker now I will never watch another one of her films along with the others on that list. For her to standby and let this happen is horrible. She, the filmers, and everyone else there should have been prosecuted, the mom too! By the way where was the mom. Even if they didn't know how old she was, they knew he plied this girl with alcohol and drugs and then forced her to have sex, that's rape period!


LG   October 1st, 2009 10:10 pm ET

Here is another case of people in Hollywood feeling they are above the law. Roman Polanski needs to face up to his actions and take punishment like a man....oh wait, there are NO real men in Hollywood.

Thank you Roland for the best written article this year.


Mike   October 1st, 2009 10:12 pm ET

Roland, you are a moron, along with so many folks commented here. "His wife was the victim of a brutal crime and so was Samantha Gailey." Are you crazy comparing this with a murder of a woman and unborn child? You call him "sadistic". Were you there? How do you know? Our country and Hollywood continues creating masterpieces exactly because they are "out of touch" with the likes of you.


LGHMD   October 1st, 2009 10:12 pm ET

Quite straightly put, and quite on the mark, No matter what, he fled the jursidiction after comitting rape upon a young girl. My feeling is that he has not stopped such behavior, and has continued in the same pattern. I don't care what his alleged "artistic" talents are purported to be. He committed a crime, fled the punishment, and foreign governments and celebrities have ignored that very real fact. I have no concerns about France, Switzerland, Hollywood, celebs or other opinions. He did the crime, fled responsibility, and must account legally for his actions. Extradite, try, sentence and undertake the punishment which is his responsibilty to serve. Jewish or not, the man is a pedophile, commited to crime, and it's about time the arrogant pederast faced up to the consequences. We hunt Nazis to the grave. He is no different.


Natalie   October 1st, 2009 10:12 pm ET

I couldn't agree more with Mr. Martin. Amazingly enough I've debated with people about this same issue...most of which are on Polanski's side. Their arguments have been that he's paid his dues because he's had to flee for 30+ years and that the victim doesn't want this case to go forward so we should all just let the man be.

Are you kidding me?! I don't understand this sort of thinking quite honestly. He's been living FREE for 30+ years and there is no telling how many more young girls he's raped/molested who haven't and will not come forward. People say he's been rehabilitated. HOW?!

Honestly, I am amazed at how many people are on this man's side. It's really disappointing to see how lax people are about the whole thing. I truly believe these same people would feel completely opposite if the man weren't such a famous and brilliant 'visionary'. If a normal guy committed this crime the torches would be burning and stones would be thrown.

And all of this comes from a fan of the man's work...but no one, and I mean NO ONE is above the law. I hope he rots in prison.


Lolly Alden   October 1st, 2009 10:12 pm ET

Right on Roland! Coiuldn't agree with you more. I was once a huge fan of Ms. Winger but no more. Cannot repsect someone with those strange values and views.


HS   October 1st, 2009 10:13 pm ET

La Viro – so, several people who are Jewish represent all Jews? Sheer idiocy. By the way, get your facts straight, last I heard Martin Scorcese and Whoopi Goldberg (last name notwithstanding) aren't Jewish. Believe me, there are many, many Jews, myself included, who deplore what Polanksi did, and do not support in any way his being exempt from justice. Don't blame an entire group for what a few individuals say and do. But, I have a feeling you won't take this to heart - you appear to be driven by hate and not facts.


Simone   October 1st, 2009 10:13 pm ET

Others have been criminally prosecuted for raping a minor. And Hollywood thinks this man is above the law? I'm sure other offenders have been equally intelligent, creative and opportunistic. Does Hollywood not not believe in justice for all? Or justice for those who aren't smart enough to get away with it.


Monice Blose   October 1st, 2009 10:14 pm ET

Thank you for expressing exactly my thoughts on this case. Rape is rape and a pedophile is a pedophile, regardless of the "art" he may create.


Rob in TX   October 1st, 2009 10:14 pm ET

Thank you Mr. Martin for this article. i was beginning to think that i was in the minority for wanting justice to be served to this admitted, CONVICTED child sex offender. He needs to be punished severely for his offense and for his cowardly act of fleeing the country to avoid repaying his debt to society as well as having his face plastered on the registered sex offender web-site like the rest of those monsters. Some individuals are commenting on here about "If it were a black man that raped a white kid he wouldve been hung" well get a clue dude this has nothing to do with race so dont try to make it about that. This is a case of a HUMAN adult that stole the innocence of a 13 yr old HUMAN child race is not even in the disussion. Thank you again Mr. Martin for this article it let me know im not the only one that feels exactly like you do!


jon   October 1st, 2009 10:14 pm ET

He's a paedophile plain and simple, i dont care how famous, how talented or how rich or for that matter how long ago this happened...
and anybody that comes out in support of this sicko are themselves supporting paedophilia....


Pete   October 1st, 2009 10:15 pm ET

How much do you want to bet this guy has done this a few times since then. Matt, you are sick individual and it scares me to think that you are a second grade teacher. You seem to have an issue with kids and it bothers me to think that you somehow understand this other sicko. I hope and prey that you are not doing any weird things with those second graders.


justaguy   October 1st, 2009 10:16 pm ET

The facts are very simple. 1) while the DA and Polanski's attorneys reached a plea agreement that does not mean the judge has to accept it. He does have discretion.
2) Polanski did not fulfill the requirements the justice system laid before him. He decided to become a fugitive. He must face the consequences. If he didn't like it, appeal. NOBODY is above the law.


Mother of Victim   October 1st, 2009 10:16 pm ET

Wow the system, and justifiers keep getting worse!!!! Sounds like the same crap that came from the court system and the Jury that even though my ex admitted to touching my 6 year old daughter and open court let him go saying ....he was nieve and admitted it was wrong. RAPE IS RAPE. ANYONE THAT JUSTIFIES THIS BECAUSE OF SOCIETY INPUT OR FAME GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL. AND MAY YOUR WIFE OR DAUGHTER EVER HAVE IT HAPPEN TO THEM!! IF IT DID YOU WOULD BE ON CNN SO FAST EXPECTING JUSTICE!!!!!


Joyce   October 1st, 2009 10:16 pm ET

Roland,
I find your comments to be intelligent, insightful, well informed and well researched with some old fashioned common sense thrown in for good measure. Sadly, I was surprised to see your uncharacteristic derogatory reference to France. Seems you lost your footing there for a moment. Otherwise good post as always.


http://twitter.com/whybs   October 1st, 2009 10:16 pm ET

What I express does not lessen the severity of such heinous crime but there is one crucial fact that Roland overlooked in his commentary - As an adult, Samantha Geimer, the victim, begged/demanded that the case be dropped.

We must respect her wishes. You & I are no one to pass judgment or second guess her. We can't punish Polanski for all rapists' crimes more than we do those Boston child abusing priests. And don't we have different standards wrt the Boston child abusing priests, here? The bottom line is, whether we like it or not, we must respect the victims' wishes, especially in this case.

The most we could do with Polanski is to punish him for jumping bail. But since the victim have dropped all charges, this became a slippery slope.

There are bigger fish to fry. It'd be more effective that we channel our energy and go after more serious perpetrators.


Gary   October 1st, 2009 10:16 pm ET

You rape, you get found guilty, you flee because you dont want to go to jail. When you get caught, you pay the price. This is very simple common sense. Reasons and excuses? There are none for having sex with a minor and there are none for rape either. Its basically an open and shut case, to which Polanski plead guilty. Far as i know he was judged sane so that he could be tried in the first place. So all potential excuses have been dismissed and It matters not that Polanski suffered thru the holocaust or his wife was killed. Its unfortunate and even worse than unfortunate but not an excuse for underage rape. So my wife gets murdered in our home when someone breaks in. That makes it ok for me to drug and rape a child? I hardly think so. And it doesnt matter when the act took place the punishment has to be taken, so Polanski has to step up to the plate and take his punishment like the man he is obviously not.


Manuel   October 1st, 2009 10:17 pm ET

Right on!!!!!!!!!! This guy should face the consecuences for his actions. That's all there is to it.

The people that defend those criminal actions should be ashamed of themselves. Whoopi saying "I don't believe it was rape-rape"...say what? I would like her to explain what other type of rape exists...or maybe she means there are different degrees of rape. Maybe she can explain that to us in her next program.

I wonder how rape victims feel when they hear this "intelligent" coments.


Wailukubro   October 1st, 2009 10:17 pm ET

Go get 'um! He pled to the crime and skipped out on the punishment. Make him do his time! You hit the nail on the head – he shouldn't be given a pass just because he's famous.


Not Important   October 1st, 2009 10:17 pm ET

To Matt who commented at 8:13- If she lied, why did he plead guilty? I'm 19 and would never imagine doing this with a girl that young. He was 44. Its sick. He belongs in prison. I hope he rots in a jail cell for the rest of his life and in hell for all of eternity. It's times like these that I curse our justice system for not having cruel and unusual punishment because this is definitely someone who deserves it. He should be happy he got away with it for 32 years. Its time he face the music.


Carl Z   October 1st, 2009 10:18 pm ET

If he did the crime, he needs to step up to the plate and take his lumps, just like anyone else would have to. It doesn't matter that he's "famous director" or that it's been 30 years. He needs to take his punishment, like everyone else.


MIke   October 1st, 2009 10:18 pm ET

I love how being a member of Hollywood makes stars think we care what they think, they probably can't even spell rape.


Jon   October 1st, 2009 10:19 pm ET

Matt, who identifies himself as an elementary school teacher, needs to have his teaching license revoked. Anyone in his position who would blame a drugged 13 year old for being raped and sodomized has some serious problems of his own to deal with. And he sure as hell won't be teaching my kids.


Mark   October 1st, 2009 10:19 pm ET

Roland ... great article and you're absolutely correct. If he had raped my thirteen year old daughter, I would have gone after him myself and brought him back to the U.S. Or worse!


chemfro   October 1st, 2009 10:20 pm ET

Roland,
I often disagree with you, but you are spot on on this case. And for those of you who claim this is case about race or ethnicity, I disagree with you. I don't think racism or semitism plays any part in this case, and maybe you should examine your own prejudices before you attach the label of racism on everything.

That being said, I do feel that the hollywood elites feel that their money, prestige, and percieved "contributions" to society place them above the law. Since Polanski is a friend and colleague of theirs, he is above reproach in their eyes.

It does not matter that the victim does not want this brought up again. While I have nothing but sincere empathy for her, this case goes beyond her. Justice serves a purpose beyond making the victim feel vindicated. A good portion of society must feel that criminals will be punished. If people percieve that criminals go unpunished, then victims and victims family will cease to trust the legal system to provide them with retribution/closure/etc. That is a recipe for rampant vigilantes. A society where vigilantes are the preferred method of justice can no longer survive.

JMHO

chemfro


Geoff Vaughan   October 1st, 2009 10:20 pm ET

This doesn't happen very often, but I agree with you wholeheartedly.


Brent   October 1st, 2009 10:20 pm ET

Let keep this simple. Regardless of the crime, person, situation, etc…. he fled the country before sentencing. Anybody who flees sentencing has committed a crime of it’s own. This person should answer for his original crime and face the charges for fleeing the county.


Myriam   October 1st, 2009 10:21 pm ET

There is no black and white when it comes to abusing children. Michael Jackson was never convicted, and this makes a difference (which is not to say that he shouldn't have been). Roman plead guilty. Absolutely no shade of grey there. And I feel sorry for the victim which is continually raped by the media. I understand her wanting to forget about all this, but I hope her main abuser will be brought to justice.


Alias   October 1st, 2009 10:21 pm ET

This is a sorry state of the world. Just the other day CNN reported on a case where a family had their children taken away because a concerned employee of Wal-Mart saw naked photos of the kids in the bathtub. Big Problem!

The Penthouse magazine containing and all consensual films starring Traci Lords made prior to her 18th birthday are considered kiddie porn and should have been destroyed. Big Problem!

Newer prints of Pretty Baby starring Brooke Shields has been cut to remove the full frontal nudity scenes. Big Problem!

In 1977 Roman Polanski forces himself on a 13 year old. Big Problem!

Now let's play devil's advocate for a moment. Say we forgive his "little mistake" at the request of the victim, does noone remember that unlawful flight to evade justice is still a crime?

The "Industry" thinks he should be let off the hook because of his genius, but can Hollywood justify locking anyone up? After all wasn't Hitler was a genius in the minds of his countrymen? Bernie Madoff did make some people rich so why not excuse him? Why is Phillip Garrido being held for raping Jaycee Lee Dugard? After all he was providing her with free room and board.

Polanski, along with Scorcese, Winger, Whoopie, and the other idiots should be gang raped and have a documentary made about it.

That's a $12 ticket I'd buy.


Brandon   October 1st, 2009 10:21 pm ET

In response to Matt, if you truly are a 2nd grade teacher then by your statement alone you clearly should be fired. Any man who says that a 13 your old girl could not have been raped because she went to this directors house should not be around children. The facts in this case are simple and are NOT DISPUTED, even by Mr. Polanski. He gave a 13 year old girl drugs and alcohol. He then precided to take nude pictures of her (child pornography), perform oral sex on her (she said no), have vaginal sex with her (she again said no), and then have anal sex with her (she again said no). As far as I can tell Mr. Polanski is guilty of child pornography, drugging a child, giving alcohol to a child, and raping a girl. Even if she had been willing, it would be statutory rape. (He was 41, she was 13). The fact that any human being could even begin to think it is okay to defend this man is horrific.


ZG   October 1st, 2009 10:22 pm ET

This is the first time I'm commenting on cnn.com. Just because I feel so strongly about this case. I couldn't agree with you more. At a time when rape (including child rape) is being used in certain war-torn parts of the world to punish civilians caught in conflict zones, any attempt to trivialize rape makes me feel sick. And it is child rape we are talking about here, which is one of the most heinous of all crimes.


MARK NYC   October 1st, 2009 10:22 pm ET

This situation is purely bizarre and disgusting that the cogniscenti of Hollywood are backing this rapist – ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!!

WHERE IS THE SITE OR PETITION BLACKLISTING ALL THE MOVIES WEINSTEIN, WACKO-WOODY AND OTHERS INCLUDING BRAINWASHED FEMALES, HAVE MADE – SIGN ME UP.


JC   October 1st, 2009 10:22 pm ET

Well written article. I just need to find the full list of those who've signed this petition in support of Polanski so I'll know who to boycott going forward. What an absurd stance for people to take. You'd think that if these folks had any common sense they'd opt to just remain silent on the matter. I'd imagine their agents are pulling their hair out realizing their 'star power' will diminish, along with the salaries they might demand. Interesting that Jack Nicholson and Angelica Huston are remaining mum. I bet they're cowering at home, trying to hide from any microphones. I hope Polanksi will spend a very long time in jail for his crimes.


bill c   October 1st, 2009 10:22 pm ET

+1 to roland martin's words ... i am a left leaning centrist all for free speech and creative blah blah blah ... but my tolerance stops at criminal behaviour .. i hope RP gets extradited and spends a long sentence in a hard prison for the rape and the evasion of justice


bill   October 1st, 2009 10:22 pm ET

the "victim" doesn't want this prosecuted.. the judge was a corrupt power seeker.. Justice wasn't beign served then.. or now. Maybe you should worry about inmprotant thigns.. such as all the 13 year old kids who can't read, write.. or have food to eat


russ   October 1st, 2009 10:23 pm ET

I can't believe Whoopi made the comment she did on National TV. She really lost it this time! She said, "I don't know what it is.." and "It wasn't rape-rape". If she didn't know what it was, then she's an idiot, and should have kept her mouth shut. Just what is rape-rape, as opposed to rape? Jeesh!


Rob   October 1st, 2009 10:23 pm ET

CNN or someone really needs to find out who this freak "Matt" really is. As a father of three girls, I am thoroughly frightened by the fact that this sicko is a second grade teacher. Someone like this does not deserve privacy on any blog or other media.


LAWood   October 1st, 2009 10:23 pm ET

Hollywood has to see that he is free. Remember these are people that pass around their ex wives and husbands like candy.
As part of their job they have simulated sex and affectionate acts with strangers, as part of their role playing. They must do this AND try and go home and pretend it is nothing. They must convince their spouses, family and us that it's just a job.
At times they must play vile characters as part of their job and be alright with it.
If there is truly a lost civilization, it is Hollywood. They have no clue, will not get a clue and there is a wall to keep YOU out. It is a small club and those that get in are so grateful that they will say what they need to in order to stay in.


Kim in Charlotte   October 1st, 2009 10:23 pm ET

Mr. Smith, you are a fence sitter. You know what I'm talking about, loud and clear.


Sarah   October 1st, 2009 10:23 pm ET

Thank you, thank you, thank you...I am appalled & disgusted at the elitist attitudes displayed by some key Hollywood players who have come to the defense of Polanski. It's high time he paid for the crime he committed. I too will not spend one dime, minute or otherwise viewing any film or other work by any of those mentioned above. Maybe this should be a wake up call to the "holier than thou" – you people are NOT above the law and there aren't a separate set of laws for you and another for "us." How sickening.


Adam   October 1st, 2009 10:23 pm ET

I agree completely w/ Mr. Martin and I think it's sad and absolutely sickening that there are actually people out there that would condone Polanski's actions. It's no surprise that these individuals are Hollywood stars that are so out of touch w/ reality they think that the rest of the world has a similar moral code as theirs, or lack thereof. They should all go to jail for being stupid.


BB   October 1st, 2009 10:23 pm ET

I agreed with him over everything until he brought up GOD.


eva   October 1st, 2009 10:23 pm ET

I have to add that this all happened during the hippies era. It was wrong. It also was so long ago. This person paid for his mistake by being hunted all his life. Worse then 48 days in prison he was expected to serve.


redlantern   October 1st, 2009 10:23 pm ET

This is to all the people saying the case should be dropped because the victim wishes it. Sorry, but that is not how our judicial system works! And for good reason. Otherwise you run into situations where victims are threatened or paid off or whatever to "want the case dropped." If you asked some children of abuse if they wanted the case against their parents dropped, many would answer yes because they love and want to protect them. Yes, this woman is now an adult, but that is still not how it works! That's great that she can move on and has forgiven him. But justice must still be served. For everyone! No one gets a free pass no matter how the victim feels about it. Why is it so hard for people to grasp this basic concept of our legal system?


Alyson   October 1st, 2009 10:24 pm ET

Excellent piece, excellent!!!!


Mimi   October 1st, 2009 10:24 pm ET

What is rape-rape? This term has been used by several people and is very scary. He raped a child. No two ways about it. Is there really a type of rape that is less tragic, hurtful, life altering and illegal?
I'm afraid it's not just Hollywood that thinks this man has a free pass. It's frightening that we don't protect our children and women as well as all these people want to protect a criminal.


timmer   October 1st, 2009 10:24 pm ET

Like the church circling the wagons to protect the priests, Hollywood is protecting one of its own. When I heard what Whoopi said, I had visions of Bill Clinton saying "it depends on what ":is" is....its not rape-rape, it was virtual rape or near rape, but not rape-rape...C'mon he made some good movies......What the flognotz is that ?
Shut up and make tv shows and movies and let the law handle the pereverts....who asked these idiots anyway...
I can see it now... yes your honor, I call Woody Allen as my character witness, yikes!!


J.M from Toronto   October 1st, 2009 10:24 pm ET

Hi Roland,

You are eactly right on this one, and Thank-you! Being a mother and a women cannot believe that this guy has been free so long and has been allowed to go on with his entitled life without being held accountable for his disgusting selfish actions towards a child. I don't care who he is or what he has been through........... it was wrong wrong wrong! No excuses!!!!


Ace   October 1st, 2009 10:25 pm ET

polanski violated the law, he should go to prison.


Jay   October 1st, 2009 10:25 pm ET

We didn't need another reason to dislike Whoopie, but we just got one! What an idiot!


Erik in Michigan   October 1st, 2009 10:25 pm ET

I find it very sad that the left wing hollywood radicals that get mad as hell about the injustices of the world, can dowgrade this admitted rape by Mr. Polanski. What about that young lady's rights? What about him paying for his attack on her? How would they feel if it was their daughter who was raped?
Thank you Mr. Martin for expressing what I have been thinking since this story broke.... and yet no one took the side of the victim in the mainstream media. Kudos to you Mr. Martin!


steve r   October 1st, 2009 10:25 pm ET

Whoopie you've lost it. Please say you didn't really say

“I know it wasn’t rape-rape. I think it was something else, but I don’t believe it was rape-rape."

Whoopie, it was rape, rape, rape, rape, rape, rape. :

– She was 13
– He got her drunk
– He gave her ludes
– He scared her
– He did her
– She didn't like it

Great cast of characters weighing in on Polanski's behalf. The only ones missing are Jose Garrido and the sick freakshow who kidnapped and raped Elizabeth Smart.

Thanks Mr. Martin,

Steve R


Reality   October 1st, 2009 10:25 pm ET

Roland is spot on and is any one really surprised at the response coming out of Hollywood?

Hello...Woody Allen, Rob Lowe are just two names of the Hollywood elite who were caught with there pants down engaging in sex with minors.


ctberger   October 1st, 2009 10:25 pm ET

Couldn't have said it better myself! Most hollywood actors are idiots, and their behavior in this matter proves that!


Culturally independent   October 1st, 2009 10:26 pm ET

I can't help but feel that all this proselytizing is just an expose of your cultural indoctrination There's no reason to suppose that those who are 'defending' polanski against extradition are somehow supporting the idea of taking advantage of a minor, of dominating someone's will with your own - rather, in practical circumstances, wasting resources on court precedings and extradition is for little more than boosting the ego of the self-righteous such as the author of this opinion piece. It will not restore the victim, it will not 'cure' Polanski fo any affliction that he doesn't seem to have at this point. The victim has even requested the case be dropped so she herself can stop being strained about it. If the victim and her family don't care, who are we to take on the guise of judge and executioner? If Polanski ended up in the states incidentally, then yes, the local police are obligated to arrest him, it's their job. But the State Dept has better things to do than make you feel good about your righteous fury, backed by a passion that is better spent elsewhere. It's not that what he did is right; it was definitely wrong. But it is certailny none of your business, and you are not acting on the part of the victim (who has not requested this) or the criminal (who has long since moved beyond this debacle to a health family life), you're working for yourself. In short, butt out.


Jimmy McTimmy   October 1st, 2009 10:26 pm ET

Labels, labels, labels.

As a member of THE MEDIA, Roland, shouldn't you be wary of slinging around all-containing titles like HOLLYWOOD? It's all so tiresome, lumping everyone into big, easily digestible groupings.

you know, like...

MEDIA.

HOLLYWOOD.

MUSLIMS.

JEWS.

BLACKS.

the beat goes on. and on. and on...so tiresome.


Gerry   October 1st, 2009 10:26 pm ET

Roland you hit the nail on the hammer!!!!!


DV   October 1st, 2009 10:26 pm ET

Right on, Roland.


Jay   October 1st, 2009 10:26 pm ET

I think Whoopie came out in defense of Michael Vick as well.
Hollywood has it's head up it's own butt! An I live there, so I know!


jdmattison   October 1st, 2009 10:26 pm ET

AMEN!!! Of all the comments I've heard in support of this piece of shiz, none in any way excuse his actions. For all the hollywood nutjobs that think his life's work somehow excuses this behavior, here's a straightforward analogy: fire-fighters and policemen/women save lives for a living. Do they get off any easier for homicide/rape/child molestation? Can anyone in their right mind say they should?? No and no. God people are so stupid...boggles the mind.


kenton schmidt   October 1st, 2009 10:26 pm ET

Mr. Martin has said it all.....what more needs to be said ? Polanski has been a fugitive from justice, plain and simple....Hollywood out of touch ? Now, more than ever !


Alan Thompson   October 1st, 2009 10:27 pm ET

Absolutely spot on assessment, imo. Great article.


Andy   October 1st, 2009 10:27 pm ET

Hollywood isn't stupid, nor are the majority of actors and directors. Their support of Polanski is purely political. People in the industry are afraid of a backlash if they speak out. Hence, the lovefest commences and they praise Polanski for his talents.

He fled the country prior to sentencing and he should be held accountable for his crimes. It's as simple as that. Hollywood is just throwing a smokebomb into the mix and trying to confuse the issue.


Janie   October 1st, 2009 10:27 pm ET

Thank you Mr. Martin!


Lynda Donaghue   October 1st, 2009 10:27 pm ET

BTW will someone please explain to me just what "rape rape" is? I always thought rape was rape period.


Bill from New Haven   October 1st, 2009 10:27 pm ET

This guy ran after admitting the crime. No excuses please.


BedfordRick   October 1st, 2009 10:28 pm ET

I agree that this man performed a despicable act on a young naive and probably star-struck teenager, and I believe he should pay for that. Despite what everyone is saying about his opulent living arrangements since going on the run, do you people really believe that he wasn't constantly worried about being brought back? How many would actually want to be running from the law? Would that be fun, or would it not be as stressful as serving a jail sentence?

He was only looking at less than two months, probably at the most, but he has spent decades on the run; that’s a sentence in itself.

Maybe this is too important a crime, maybe California doesn't have this option on its' books, but there is such a thing as deferred prosecution and deferred adjudication that is handed out to those the law considers add more to humanity by being given another chance. Everybody deserves at least a second chance, and many receive chance after chance after chance. This man does more for society than he does against it – far more.

The victim in this matter wants it to go away, because it is again making her even more of a victim. I would think her wishes should count.

Is this simply a case where once you run from the law, they want a piece of you really bad? I always did think it was a stupid idea to run, and I think that has got to be what this is mostly about. Remember the line, “What we have here is a failure to communicate”? The law must never be made to look like you got one over on them – right?


Chris   October 1st, 2009 10:28 pm ET

Like most of you in this comment area, I am taking note of all the Hollywood elites supporting Polanski, or down-playing this serious crime. I hope they are never in a position where their children or grandchildren are rapped by a 40-something year old man after he drugs them and photographs them, because that support will come back to haunt them. France's 'outrage' just shows how uncivilized that country is thinking it is okay to rape children if you are famous or make good movies. Let's not forget, the real victim is the 13-year old girl, now in her forties herself, after living a life of being haunted by this incident her entire life. Thanks Roland for speaking our minds.


Phoebe   October 1st, 2009 10:28 pm ET

I don't give a damn whether this girl consented or not. I remember being 13, being confused about sex and love, being naive, believing that a young man who showed interest in me must have appreciated how incredibly mature and smart I was. That is why children cannot legally consent to sex!! They have no idea what's really going on! They're little girls in womanly bodies. SHAME ON YOU, ROMAN POLANSKI!

I fully appreciate that the victim doesn't want to be put through this year after year. So get it right this time. Make this man pay more than money for his crime. Sex with a child is rape. Period.

Whoopi, I am thoroughly disgusted with you.


Steve   October 1st, 2009 10:28 pm ET

A guy in my neighborhood got life in prison for having consensual sex with a 13 year old girl. No rape, consensual sex. He was 18, not in his 40's like Polanski. Sound harsh? Maybe, maybe not. But why should some rich hollywood guy get off with any less? There are right things and wrong things. Polanski commited a grave taboo, he harmed a little girl. Permanently. If he was any kind of a man at all, he would stand up and face the consequences of his actions.


Katherine   October 1st, 2009 10:28 pm ET

Thank you for that article that is right on target. In a time where it seems that "anything goes," I was starting to believe that our country has become so desensitized about obvious moral infractions that even heinous crimes against children are not being taken seriously.


Terry Barlow   October 1st, 2009 10:28 pm ET

Great article. Right on the money.


Dave B   October 1st, 2009 10:28 pm ET

Right on Roland!

Woody Allen is supporting Polanski. That says it all.


paula   October 1st, 2009 10:29 pm ET

Mr. Polanski owes a debt, not just to his victim, but to this nation and its legal system. Had he gone to trial, event that long ago, his conviction was well-nigh certain and his punishment would have been far more severe. It is a testament to the strength of the human spirit and the resilience of young people that his victim has made a life for herself and has a family of her own. That she does not wish to raise the specters of the past is understandable–victims do not deserve what often happens to them in the legal process. But even she does NOT have the right to release this debt. It is owed to all of us. It is owed to give hope to every child who finds herself abused, whether by her own lack of wisdom or her parents' folly in placing her at risk. Mr. Polanski should pay the debt in full for the harm he has done. Then he should be charged for a felony in the nature of "failure to appear" as it is called in Arizona when a miscreant mocks the rules of society and the requirements of the justice system.


Dan   October 1st, 2009 10:29 pm ET

The article may have merit but the comments are laughable. Blame the Jews? Blame the whites? Blame the liberals? Blame the sodomites? The anonymity provided by the internet is a great security blanket for the hatred our culture has for itself.
When something shocks or horrifies you, talk about it rationally. Open your mind instead of opening fire.


Gail   October 1st, 2009 10:29 pm ET

Glad to see that most commenters agree with Mr. Martin and are horrified by the petition. I am all for a boycott of the mentioned signers. It would not be a terrible hardship. I'm already tired of the works of Martin Scorcese, Woody Allen, Debra Winger, Michael Mann and Mike Nichols. Hard to believe Mike Nichols is married to Diane Sawyer.


Courtney   October 1st, 2009 10:30 pm ET

Having sex with a 13 year old is gross. This is Hollywood thinking they are above the common man again. Everyone who signed that petition needs to be in jail as well for being an accessory.


Chris   October 1st, 2009 10:30 pm ET

If Michael Moore wants to make another movie, this would be a great one to make. What about an expose about Hollywood and how they play by different rules at the expense of all the hardworking folks in the country. Folks who spend their hard earned money to watch such serious stars as the Kardashians, Paris Hilton, Lindsey Lohan, and movies by Roman Polanski. These folks have brought so much to our world and made it such a better place that they deserve to be treated special. I've got to go now, THE REAL HOUSEWIVES of ATLANTA are coming on. I'm teaching my daughter how to marry a man with money.


John   October 1st, 2009 10:31 pm ET

So why not boycott any movie or TV show any these jackasses in Hollywood are in as a way of showing our disdain for them all.... I wonder if they'd be so ready to give this pervert a free pass if it was THEIR 13 year old daughter that was raped. Hollywood has reared it's ugly head once again! When will we ever learn?


joe   October 1st, 2009 10:31 pm ET

I can't believe it – Roland S. Martin and I actually agree on something. Well daone.


Bob   October 1st, 2009 10:31 pm ET

Wow. It is unbelievable to me that any one person, in these posts or in Hollywood, would try to defend or decriminalize what Polanski did and was not punished for. If anything, Polanski should be arrested for simply being stupid enough to leave his asylum in France.

There are laws that we must obey. It is ILLEGAL to have sex with a minor...period. That's like saying guns kill people, people don't kill people. Don't try to skirt the law by saying it wasn't his fault. This, sadly, is part of our country's overall problem today, lack of accountability.

Matt...you of all people should be on the side of protecting children of all ages, regardless of any precondition of "consent" or "situation" that would allow for this to happen. I'm glad my daughters don't go to school were you purport to be a teacher.

Children must be protected, from themselves and others. That's why we're supposed to be adults and not participate in their poor decisions, unlike Polanksi did.


MC   October 1st, 2009 10:31 pm ET

Thanks for saying everything that I've been thinking. The fact that there is even a debate about this topic is disgusting. A young child was drugged and raped by a forty year old man. I have a child that very age and It wouldn't matter to me how many years went by, I would want to see justice. Hollywood finds this shameful that he has been taken into custody... they should be shamed for backing this pervert. They are willing to look the other way because this guy knows how to make a good movie. I would love to know what some of these Hollywood stars would think if Roman got his hands on their daughter 30 years ago. Would it matter how much time went by?


michele williams   October 1st, 2009 10:31 pm ET

I do feel that it is pathetic that some of hollywoods elite dont feel its something he shouldnt go to jail for.. Give me a break ,rape is rape no matter which way you slice the pie ......Hollywood is more delusional as time goes on.. God will serve roman polanski in the proper manner one way or the other.. Kuddos to Mr. Martin for speaking the true words that need to be spoken .. go head with your bad self Mr.Martin.!!!


Gerard   October 1st, 2009 10:32 pm ET

I'm wondering if those who think Mr. Polanski should get off the hook for the rape of a young girl because it happened in the distant past, would also excuse abusive priests and Nazi war criminals for the same reason.


dustin   October 1st, 2009 10:32 pm ET

I agree with all the stuff about roman, he should go to jail, face justice or whatever, but why when a few hollywood people act a certain way its all of hollywood. How many thousands of people with different views, from celebrities to the key grip on set represent hollywood? Its just tiring to have such huge groups of people being presented as carbon copy idealogues. Its always done with the south being generalized and minorities as well, generalizations are just lazy.


Southern   October 1st, 2009 10:33 pm ET

"James" challenges Roland's facts, which are supported by the court records and then James produces no "fact" of his own....
They walk among us.........

Roland, I always red your well written columns.
Often I do not agree.
But this time you nailed it.


Reader   October 1st, 2009 10:33 pm ET

I am sensitive to the fact that Polanski has suffered terrible tragedies that nobody should have to endure, and it is admirable that he has been artistically successful, despite his hardships.

However, the tragedies people suffer can also cause their emotions and choices to become skewed and selfish, rather than becoming that much more sensitive and kind to their fellow man.

Polanski had no empathy or regard for the girl he treated like an unfeeling thing. That he also makes good movies does not negate this. Perhaps his tragedies both damaged and improved him, but in different, unrelated ways, and he should not be excused for the terrible harm he caused an innocent child because his peers value his products more than decent human character.

Art is valuable, and maybe Polanski has gifted the art world, but art is meant to appeal and respond to human values that are no more important than the values of decency, kindness, and empathy for our fellow man, especially those most vulnerable. The out-of-touch Hollywood types who support him apparently think their artistic "values" are more important than basic morality. How pompous and vile.


Colin   October 1st, 2009 10:34 pm ET

Mr. Martin,

Your gross mis-characterization of the Polanski case is not only an admission of pure ignorance regarding the facts but a very transparent opportunity you have taken to usea serious moral issue to advance your own sense of peity in the eye of your readers.

Everyone accused of a crime in the United States is entitled to a fair trial and Mr. Polanski got far from that. He is for sure someone who committed a heinous crime, for which he appeared before a judge, and was charged. What happened next was a total mis-carriage of justice. His sentence was decided in a back room by a judge who had a penchant for limelight, he had presided over Cary Grant's divorce, and Marlon Brando's custody hearing. He repeatedly called the attorneys in the Polanski case into chambers to "arrange" a deal that would paint himself in a positive and very public light.

Polanski was convicted of unlawful sex with a minor and was sentenced to a 42 day pyschiatric evaluation in Chino maximum security prison, which he served.

I am certainly not defending his behavior, but within the context of American law he was not charged with nor convicted of rape, he served a sentence as deemed appropriate by the judge, who then changed his mind about the severity of the sentence without consulting the district attorney and attempted to "re-sentence" Polanski.

Mr. Polanski did not flee the United States to avoid punishment nor does his status as a filmmaker play any role in is perceived amnesty. Polanski fleed a justice system who failed him, even the judge who is currently assigned to the case has publically said that negligence had occured. Samantha Geimer, the victim, publically forgave him in 1997 and has said that she has no desire to see him go to prison.

Mr. Martin I am sure it is comforting for you to live in a world where issues such as these are so black and white, he did an awful thing and he deserves to be punished, agreed, but he also deserves a fair trial and a punishment that suits the crime for which he was convicted. The United States legal system is not in the business of passing judgement on people without listening to both sides and knowing all of the facts, perhaps you should the same.


JON   October 1st, 2009 10:34 pm ET

Well it's about time that I finally read an article about this subject that made sense. I have been wondering why everything I have read is "pro" Polanski. I was thinking that maybe I was missing something or that maybe my feelings were off base. To me, it seems like an open and shut case of someone famous thinking that the law does not apply to them. I can give a thousand examples of this, but I think you all know them well. I don't care WHO you are or how long ago this crime may have occurred. Also, the previous tragedy of his wife's murder is sad but irrelevant. I am sure that the majority of people behind bars have had tragedies in their lives as well. His crime, which he admitted to, is one of the most disgusting and disgraceful crimes a person can commit. I don't care if it is a hundred years after the incident, he should go to trial and be punished. I have lost all respect for any so called "celebrity" that chose to defend this piece of scum. It's just another example of how out of touch these celebs are with reality. Fame and fortune does not equal a free pass to do whatever you want. When the hell are Americans going to stop putting these "celebrities" on a pedestal and start to admire the REAL celebrities and heros ?? I am talking about the teachers, the military, police, and firemen. These are the people who deserve to be admired based on their self-sacrifice and positive contributions to society. Our society is so backwards in this respect. We shower people with money and admiration because they can put a ball in a basket, or act in front of a camera. However, a teacher that dedicates his or her's life to helping children have a happy and productive life has to struggle to pay the bills and put food on the table. It's totally backwards and I hope and pray that mankind will evolve enough one day to realize this tragic mistake. I am not holding my breath though !!


Barbara   October 1st, 2009 10:34 pm ET

AL, Mr. martin was able to say France welcomed Polanski with open arms because they did. Even though they have stopped asking for his release, they were the first in line to call for it. Also, since it was a well known fact that he had committed this crime, he was never arrested in France; where he lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I loathe to bring up the race card, but I do not understand how people in Hollywood have come to Polanski's defense, but was ready to serve Michael Jackson up on a platter with all the trimmings. MJ never pled guilty; Polanski did. People were calling for MJ's children be taken from him; Polanski has a son and a daughter. Wonder if he ever had thoughts to drug and molest them. Or how would he feel if this had happened to either of them. The two cases make me wonder why some were so quick to condemn one, only to turn around and defend the other.


John   October 1st, 2009 10:35 pm ET

Matt, I think you need to get your facts straight. I guess the photos he took were fake? I guess he lied when he confessed to doing it?


pat nizynski   October 1st, 2009 10:35 pm ET

Amen


Jules   October 1st, 2009 10:35 pm ET

I agree with Mr. Martin. Too many people seem to have lost sight of the fact that a very real crime took place, one which would earn Mr. Polanski plenty of jail time today. This was a 13 yr old CHILD! It isn't legally possible to have consensual sex with a child, no matter who you are. Although I feel for the victim, who now would prefer to have the whole matter just go away, this type of crime is something as a society we can't afford to ignore. I hope justice is done here, but I have my doubts. Sadly, money and fame seem to cloud many people's judgement.


Ryan   October 1st, 2009 10:36 pm ET

Thank you, Roland. You have articulated an opinion that many Americans share.

Many Polish people share this view as well. Same with the French. The only ones who don't are the stupid Hollywood numbskulls who think they know everything.

How can ANYONE...ANYONE AT ALL use his talent as an excuse for him raping a little girl? Martin Scorsese...my jaw dropped when I heard you supported him. I will never look at these people the same ever again. They are ridiculous and unbelievably biased. If it was Joe from down the street, they'd cry off with his head.


Hypathia Seattle, WA   October 1st, 2009 10:36 pm ET

THANK YOU!!! Finally someone who sees this man for what he really is. A child molester.

I am certain that the victim wants this to go away but monetary compensation from her attacker factors into this.

The reality is he is a pedophile and deserves to serve his time. When is rape against a child "not quite rape"?

His films, though touted as great, never struck me so.

Chinatown, a woman trying to get free from a father who raped her and gets shot in the head leaving her child to the fate of a grandfather that will rape her. A man catches his wife cheating so it’s ok to beat and rape her?

If this is great film making I am appalled! It speaks of a man who has a sick and twisted personality.

Being a survivor of the holocaust and the terrible murder of his poor pregnant wife does not give him a license to commit crimes.

I am glad that he may finally face some justice and my hats off to the Swiss for keeping him in jail with the rest of the criminals.

If you do the crime you need to do the time- with the general population!


Hugh   October 1st, 2009 10:36 pm ET

Even if it could be argued that the rape charges should be dropped (and I don't think they should be). There is the matter of him being a fugitive from law and that's somethig he still has to stand for.

The fact is Mr. Polanski has acted badly all around and for the people saying the victim has forgiven him and the media is victimizing the victem over again, if Mr. Polanski had gone to court taken his punishment for his crime like a man, this situation would be long in the past now. I think Mr. Polanski has contiued to victimize the victim over the years buy not taking his punishment years ago and keeping this story alive rather than finishing with it in the past where it should have been. left


anniegirrl   October 1st, 2009 10:37 pm ET

I agree with Martin.


Mairgread   October 1st, 2009 10:37 pm ET

Mr Martin, you are a sane voice in a casual wilderness. Obviously if the victim wants this dropped, then it should be. Hopefully Roman Polanski will not be allowed to return to the US. He can be everlastingly creative somewhere, anywhere else. Debra Winger. Whoopi Goldberg. Natalie Portman. Their talents have given me so much joy. But then so did Woody Allen's. For years now I haven't been able to get past who he is to watch any of his creations. I'm sad that now I see them the same way.


Nicole   October 1st, 2009 10:38 pm ET

Thank you Mr. Martin.


frustrated   October 1st, 2009 10:38 pm ET

Finally!!!!! Thank you Mr. Martin for your article on Roman Polanski. This man needs to be held accountable for his disgusting actions against a child. I am amazed by the amount of support he has received. I also think Woody Allen's support of Polanski is pretty comical. Didn't Woody marry his ex-wife's adopted daughter?? Where are people's morals?


JG   October 1st, 2009 10:38 pm ET

Ask anyone supporting this guy to walk into a 7'th grade classroom and point to the next girl allowed to be raped by a 40 year old man. Because that's basically what they are advocating.


joe   October 1st, 2009 10:38 pm ET

i don't usually post responses and I rarely agree with you but you are right on the money on this issue.


BMWM5er   October 1st, 2009 10:38 pm ET

I still can't believe Scorsese's support. I guess he's forgotten his own movie Taxi Driver.
To quote Luc Besson on the matter – "No one is above the law."


Jim J   October 1st, 2009 10:38 pm ET

Right on. I couldn't agree more.

As a father of three young girls, it wouldn't matter to me if their rapist were Michaelangelo, Mozart, and Fellini rolled into one. I would want him strung up, no matter how long ago it was.

Hollywood is showing its true colors on this one.


John   October 1st, 2009 10:38 pm ET

Mr. Martin, I agree with you, and commend you for writing this article that reflects how many people feel.

As mentioned in the article, this case has nothing to do with race and ethnicity. This case is about a man who fled the legal system and has been living as a fugitive abroad. Because he is a celebrity, many of his fellow celebrities are rallying behind him.

It doesn't matter who you are, what you look like, what you have endured, or what you do. If you commit the crime, you do the time.

Just like everyone else, even if you are a famous celebrity.

Also, this is a criminal case, so the case will proceed regardless of the victim's intentions. In criminal cases, the crime is considered as committed against the state, and not the individual. Individuals have recourse in civil suits.


Karen   October 1st, 2009 10:38 pm ET

Debra Winger awaits his next masterpiece? I wonder if she was referring to his next film, or next rape...

I can NOT believe that Whoopi came out in his defense. Since WHEN is it EVER acceptable to rape someone, let alone a 13 year old girl, after plying her with alcohol and drugs?

Many of these same people condemned the Bush administration's use of torture, but rape is okay?

WTF? What weird warped dimension have we entered???


RICHARD SCHAFF   October 1st, 2009 10:39 pm ET

I agree with Roland and will state one more thing. It is even more pathetic that our law enforcement due to either bribery or indifferencve did not bring this man to justice many years ago. Surely, if the maximum pressure would have been exerted here he would have extradicted and imprisoned many years ago. Very sad commentary
if our society that there is even a debate on what should have AND WILL BE DONE TO THIS MAN THEN AND NOW.


Lana   October 1st, 2009 10:39 pm ET

Being a victim of rape, I know exactly how the victim feels. I wonder where the parents of this 13 year old girl were. Even to this day, this concerns me. Mr. Polanski is in the wrong here and he knows that. Does he need to be punished? Yes but not to the extent that he would be today because there are major changes with the way people are punished today. I read the transcripts to the issue and the victim (in words only) did not appear to be frightened otherwise she would have left the situation. She stayed. She did not have a knife against her throat like i did. She did not hear.. "you do this, or I will kill you". like I did. The victim has admitted that she should not have been there as a 13 year old child. Again, I ask "where were the parents?" Where was Jack Nicholson as the host of the party? I agree with most people posting here that a henious crime occured many years ago. As a victim going through severe post tramatic stress disorder, is it really necessary to victimize everyone again? The victim in this case says that all of this publicity is a detriment to her well being.. I just ask .. is it all worth it?


Diane   October 1st, 2009 10:40 pm ET

This case is over thirty years old, and most importantly, the victim herself has expressed that she wishes it would go away.

Many 13-year-olds are street smart and look older and act older than their age and many men have been caught unaware with "jail bait." Why would a young girl be alone with a 40-something year-old man at a Hollywood movie star's house? What about her parents? It appears this was a case of extremely bad judgment on both sides. If the girl was given a settlement, hasn't restitution been made? Has Polansky been caught with any other under-age girls since this incident? Aren't there current criminals with more relevance that should be hunted down and thrown in jail, like the CEOs, corporate bankers and financial wizards who have put our country into recessoin and then were rewarded with a bail out for doing so by our government?


Frank   October 1st, 2009 10:40 pm ET

Should have just left the title as "Hollywood is clueless".


Mobius   October 1st, 2009 10:40 pm ET

Thanks, Roland, for showing us once again you're clueless as to the issues. How you remain employed is a mystery. Once again you opine based solely on what you've seen on TV.

You may NOT employ 2009's social values against a crime committed 31 years ago, and you may NOT use a 13 year old victim, who has REPEATEDLY asked that this receive no more publicity, to jump on your moral high horse.

The resolution is clear – the ONLY person against whom a crime was committed has declared the matter dropped. Who are you to disagree?


Joe   October 1st, 2009 10:41 pm ET

Here's the boycott list... I mean the official list of petition signers. Let's REALLY send Hollywood a message and let them know how we feel about their lack of morals. I'd love to see these people's movies playing to empty theaters.

http://www.sacd.fr/Tous-les-signataires-de-la-petition-pour-Roman-Polanski-All-signing-parties.1341.0.html


Gus   October 1st, 2009 10:41 pm ET

It's not pedophelia if the person is 13. It's called ephebophilia. And if having sex with 13 year olds is wrong, better lock up most of the third world. 14? 15? 16? 17? 18? What's the magic age that makes it respectable?


Hessie L. Harris   October 1st, 2009 10:42 pm ET

Mr Polanski's defenders are illogical. Many say that he should not be required to answer for such an old crime. He made it an old crime by running away. There is a possibility that he might have long since paid his debt to society had he stayed for sentencing and served his time. There are also those who think that it was not kosher to arrest him by ruse. Is it supposed to be wrong to capture a crriminal by trickery especially one who has been on the lam for 30 years? Mr. Polanski's character has not improved in 30 years. He is apparently hoping that his fame, fortune, and the support he is receiving from the Hololywood types will mean that the law does not apply to him. May that not be the case.


Bluidshay   October 1st, 2009 10:42 pm ET

I agree with you, Roland. I am also kind of disturbed that one of Roman Polanski's most ardent supporters is Woody Allen. Uh...do you see the reason why?


dermeister   October 1st, 2009 10:42 pm ET

Perhaps the reporter should bother to post Polanski's comment outside of court when asked why he had sex with the girl when he was originally on trial. I remember it clearly when I saw it on TV 30 years ago. His defense: "She was a prostitute, and she was paid." Why was that not admissible as a defense? Months before, a CA law had been passed that the sexual history of the woman was not admissible in court. So, he plead guilty in a plea deal only, and when it looked like the judge would not go along, he fled. Otherwise, it would have gone to trial.


Moonbeam   October 1st, 2009 10:42 pm ET

Several points:

1. Polanski had money and could have paid numerous call girls (not
that I condone prostitution), so why did he take the chance of
destroying this young girl psychologically, not to mention the
physical harm he did to her?

2. However, did this 13-year old ever take a lie detector test? I
wonder about the strength of character of a girl who was willing to
pose nude for him (although that may have already been after he
gave her the drink and drug). She has stated that the prosecutors
have done more harm to her than Polanski did. Why? If it were
me, I still would want revenge, even after all these years. So I'm
wondering if she wants to keep this quiet for other reasons.

3. I heard that he would not allow the mother to accompany the girl
on this job, so it does look as if if Polanski did this, that indeed it
may have been premeditated.

4. The most important point, though, is that: did the prosecutors mis-
lead Polanski into thinking he had a deal that he really didn't have?
It would have been too late after the sentencing, I believe, for him
to exercise his right to go to trial. Therefore, he had to rely on the
representations made to him and might reasonably have believed
the rug was being pulled out from under him. Not to make light of
what he did if he is guilty - it was unquestionably a light sentence
he was to have received if the deal was carried out as planned.
But if it was not, he would have the right to a trial where he might
have beaten the charges completely.

5. I agree that if he were not famous and if in addition he were black
(or even a famous black man), I believe he would not have been
offered such a good deal to begin with.

That'll all - I just really am not sure what to think. However, if he stands trial today, I think a good defense lawyer might get him off completely. I don't know what forensic evidence the prosecutors have, or if the girl was examined by a doctor afterward.


Jrzygal55   October 1st, 2009 10:43 pm ET

Thank you Mr. Martin, for speaking up about the bizarre opinions of Hollywood's "elite". You are spot-on about their double-standards. I wonder if any of them bothered to read Samantha Gailey's own account of what happened to her that horrible day as a 13 year old – a CHILD – when she was so terribly abused by Polanski. I am sure they would sing a different tune if this happened to their daughter. Some say justice was done because Ms. Gailey received a settlement. No amount of money excuses Roman Polanski's behavior or excuses him from facing justice for this crime.


Lisa   October 1st, 2009 10:43 pm ET

Joining the chorus....
Polanski pled guilty and then fled the country. He should face justice. PERIOD.

Hello...he raped a child. Since when does being a talented movie director excuse crime? It sounds like there were problems in the prosecution. So what.

My husband (or my brother or my father) would have faced the full force of justice for such a crime in 1977.


Tina   October 1st, 2009 10:43 pm ET

AMEN!


Bryn K   October 1st, 2009 10:43 pm ET

Thanks for making your voice heard on this issue. The endorsement of Polanski is just another example of how popular culture condones violence against women. Do you think if this man was a priest there would be this degree of support for him? For that matter, what if he was just an average African American male? NO WAY! He is a self-professed hebephile (admitted on camera in a 1977 interview) and a coward. This arrest should have been made years ago and I hope the prosecutor does not allow Hollywood to bully him!


Justin   October 1st, 2009 10:43 pm ET

Yeah... he should service his time. The article is good. The petition is pretty silly, and short sighted, but all of you calling for a boycott.... How many Roman Polanski films have you watched over the last 30 years??


Kim   October 1st, 2009 10:43 pm ET

I am a member of the gay/lesbian community, and I do not support child rapists. I totally agree with Roland and hope Polanski is extradited to the U.S. to face sentencing for this sick crime.

Eyes Wide Open – Do not lump together the gay/lesbian community of adults involved in relationships with other adults to the sick behavior of some heterosexuals and homosexuals victimizing children. This is not behavior supported in our community.


Arman   October 1st, 2009 10:44 pm ET

I think he should come back and face trial. Be a man, and be responsible. Hollywood is racist. Imagine if he was not Jewish, and he was an ordinary person. He would have been crusified by LA courts. He fled the country because he did not want to spenc another 48 days in prison???? How stupid is that? Think about it. What's 86 days in jail for doing what he did. I think he had a pass.....


Cameron   October 1st, 2009 10:44 pm ET

I agree, what this man did was very very wrong and he deserves what he is getting. However, I don't think people should be so quick to jump on the hate Hollywood bandwagon. I'm sure there are lots of people within Hollywood who are strongly disgusted with Polanski.


Kevan   October 1st, 2009 10:44 pm ET

The man made a plea bargain and then the judge decided he should be punished further. This is not ethical, despite how many of you think he deserves "more punishment". He fled the country because he was being abused by our legal system, which we all are these days.


Steve   October 1st, 2009 10:45 pm ET

So Mr. Martin, could you point me in the right direction for articles you wrote blasting Michael Jackson, one of the most famous pedophiles on the planet?? I just want to make sure you're doing a well-rounded job.


Reader   October 1st, 2009 10:45 pm ET

Peter, what is your problem? You really think this is simply a case of an adult having sex with a minor? Even if she weren't a child, she was given alcohol and a prescription depressant - why? Because her ability to fight back would be lessened or eliminated. If she were so "willing," what purpose would these substances serve?

The victim wants to be left alone, understandably. But part of the reason she has chastised the media is that they painted her as a "Lolita" and smeared her. Which is ridiculous, as Lolita was also a child who could not consent, so she was a rape victim, not a sophisticated seductress.

You accuse Mr. Martin of not "getting" the meaning behind all the related events, but maybe if the media had been responsible and respectful in the first place, and Polanski had not fled, the victim could have moved on. The only person who has benefited is Polanski, while he's the one who caused the whole mess, including the victim's current pain. So maybe YOU are the person who doesn't "get it."


Geoff Jansen   October 1st, 2009 10:45 pm ET

As a liberal who loves movies - including those of Polanski - I can speak for other (non-Hollywood) liberals like myself who feel that Polanski deserves the same treatment he gave the young girl. Whether the victim forgives him or not, he should go to prison and discover some new fans in the shower.

Those who make allowances for such behavior are seriously, seriously disconnected from reality.


Roberta Morales   October 1st, 2009 10:45 pm ET

Bravo, Roland. It really amazes me to see how many people
are making light of this. Polanski has committed a crime and he should
be punished. (and I mean not in jail for a few days or a week).So many woman are raped and the rapists get away with
it..Our judicial system needs to change...


Incredulous   October 1st, 2009 10:45 pm ET

Excellent article.

To those who say honor what the victim wants, remember she has been compensated by Polanski and we don't know the terms of the agreement. That she defends him indicates a personality defect probably caused by the rape.

If we as Americans don't stand behind our laws then we will create chaos and anarchy. The guy is clearly guilty and should be punished.

Matt, I am glad my kids are grown and can't be in your classes.


Daniel Thornton   October 1st, 2009 10:46 pm ET

RIGHT FRIGGEN ON MR. MARTIN


Joy   October 1st, 2009 10:46 pm ET

Roland, you hit the nail on the head ! I appreciate your willingness to speak out !


John SF   October 1st, 2009 10:46 pm ET

Now let's get this straight, we're supposed to accept moral guidance from the so-called man who married the girl that was his daughter the day before? This is to bizarre for words. In some ways, W


Alan L.   October 1st, 2009 10:46 pm ET

Good Job Roland. Show the % of our opinions on Nat TV, then America would have spoken.


Brian S.   October 1st, 2009 10:46 pm ET

Well I have sat here and read all of these responses to this blog post and I must say some of you really need to get a dose of reality. This is not a race issue. I hate that there are race baiters out there who think that is acceptable to make every arguement about white or black or whatever color. This is a CRIMINAL issue that a man commited a crime and ran away when it seemed that things would not go in his favor. If a common man or woman committed this act, yes I agree we would all be shouting "throw the book at him", and lock him up in prison. The fact that a FAMOUS man is able to get away with this with no reprocussions is appauling to me and every other common man and woman in this country. Mr. Polanski should stand before the judge and accept his punishment whether he be 36 or 76 should not matter. As for the hollywood stars that support this man......THINK BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR BIG FAT MOUTHS. Look at the facts here in the case, not the oscar he has won or the awards he has received. If any of you supporters of this were the parents of this young girl, you would shout for him to be castrated immediately. As for Matt the teacher: shame on you for blaming the parents. Yes they made a bad decision, but who raped this young girl? I have children and if this man did this to my kids, he would have to pray to god that I never found him in France myself, I would have drug him back to court by his hair and made him face his judgement myself. Hollywood once again has shown us the way not behave and why they should not be placed on pedistals like they believe they should be. Do us all a favor Hollywood, keep your opinions on politics and law to yourself because you have obviously proven time and time again that you dont have a clue.


Geoff Jansen   October 1st, 2009 10:47 pm ET

Oh, and Matt, you're an idiot.


Ed H   October 1st, 2009 10:47 pm ET

I agree too. The law should apply to everyone, including the rich, the talented, friends of the glitterati.

If he feels he's been unjustly treated, let him come and make his case in court. I'm sure he can afford the best legal representation.


Jay Manda   October 1st, 2009 10:47 pm ET

I don't always agree with you on your opinions, but this time I have to say that I agree with what you've said. As a victim of a sexual assault when I was 15 years old, even in the current justice system it is hard to prove your case and for people to go to jail. The man who assaulted me was allowed to plea to misdemeanor sexual battery over the real crime: criminal sexual contact of a minor. His record has already been wiped clean and he didn't spend even a minute in a jail cell. If Mr. Polanski has the opportunity to be tried for his crimes, it should be taken.

I can't believe so many people are standing up for this man. It will never cease to amaze me the ignorance of people. Not only that, but people in a position to have their voices heard across the nation, crying out that it's wrong to jail a man for his crimes? Yuck.

I am disgusted, but thank you for your words.


John SF/edited!   October 1st, 2009 10:47 pm ET

Now let’s get this straight, we’re supposed to accept moral guidance from the so-called man who married the girl that was his daughter the day before? This is too twisted for words.


Mike   October 1st, 2009 10:48 pm ET

Very well articulated, Mr. Martin. I seriously can't believe that anyone is defending this rapist. Once again Hollywood feels like they are above the law. I applaud the victim for extending forgiveness to Polanski. I can't imagine the courgae it took to do so. HOWEVER, it is already a settled case. The charges can't be dropped because he has already been convicted. He should be held to the same standards that every other child rapist is held to. Let him rot...


Roberta Morales   October 1st, 2009 10:48 pm ET

Roland,
Sorry..i more to say.. also..drugging a 13 year old..on top of all this..
I'm sorry what are people thinking...


Karen   October 1st, 2009 10:48 pm ET

While it may seem compassionate to defer to the victim's desire to drop the matter, I would argue that the real compassion is to press on with the case. What message does it send if the perpetrator/pedophile is allowed to serve half of his ridiculously short sentence then to seek exile for years only to just brush the incidence under the rug because too much time has passed. This would only set the precedent- hey, just run away and eventually this pesky conviction too shall pass! I feel badly for her but this verdict should be seen to its conclusion. Should we say to any criminal, just sit tight in your escape and we'll forget about your crime? Would you give Jaycee Dugard's captor such a free pass because he held her captive for 18 years? Justice needs to finish its course. It has nothing to do with being Christian or forgiveness.


Steven   October 1st, 2009 10:48 pm ET

Rape is rape ... .as Whoopi said . Rape-Rape but not Rape-Rape... it is RAPE. It is not to be colored or spnned or otherwise diminished .. it is RAPE.

How can these "CNN Heroes" get it wrong ... it is RAPE. Simple ... put the guy in jail for eternity. SIMPLE.

Do Hollywood Celebrities live to a different standard or is the LAW the LAW?

It is time to figure out if there is a differnet tier for those of us who are not priveleged or famous.


Davie   October 1st, 2009 10:49 pm ET

Oh gee, Mr. Martin – it's so courageous of you to come out and pile on Mr. Polanski too. I mean, it takes real guts to condemn a child rapist, right? Bravo.

Regardless of what you would have your readers believe, no one is condoning child rape. They want the matter dropped either because the victim wants it dropped, or because of the procedural misconduct in the case. Ernesto Miranda was also a rapist. "Miranda rights" ring a bell?


John   October 1st, 2009 10:49 pm ET

Matt, you're probably a perp yourself. He admitted to the established facts. I doubt you are a school teacher but if you are the authorities need to investigate you. \
Roland, you're bang on, the holocaust is NOT A GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD, not for Polanski or the state of israel for that matter. Why does the UN have one set of rules for israel and another completely different set for its victim nations?


OMD   October 1st, 2009 10:49 pm ET

The issue is not whether a person raped a 13 year old girl today and should go to jail today. The incident occurred 30 years ago. The victim today is a forty-something year old married woman with children of her own and feels the man has been punished enough already, and would like the whole matter to go away rather than have it dredged up and continue to ruin her life. So, is the law protecting anyone then? Certainly not the victim, it's much too late for that. It would have made sense if they would have locked him up thirty years ago. All this new publicity will do is to open up old wounds for the victim and her family and make everything much worse. So, who benefits from all this? Self appointed judges, like Mr Martin.


Mad Max   October 1st, 2009 10:49 pm ET

What about the victim ? Isn't she the most important person in this case ?

If the victim is at peace and satisfied with the way things turn out, then it is all that matters. She has made it clear that she disapproves of the arrest and doesn't want another trial or another media circus that would put the spotlight back on her.
She is the one who suffered and she is the one who closed the book on this whole case so who the hell do you think you are to bring all of this back into her life ???

If the victim wants the book closed, that's the way it should be and no judge, no citizen, no other person in the world should have anything to say about it.


Jianjian Song   October 1st, 2009 10:50 pm ET

Law is law and crime against a child by a celebrity is even worse and sicker. If the country listens to Hollywood, there would be n children protection anymore. I wonder if those Hollywood protectors have their own children or allow their children to be raped by famous directors?


Lori C.   October 1st, 2009 10:50 pm ET

Thank You Mr. Martin, yourself, Rick Sanchez, Kirsti Alley, Nancy Grace, all of you are decent human beings who know the difference between right and wrong. The points you made are exactly right!! How can people who defend this man feel good about themselves? Would they feel so casual about what happened if the crime had been against their 13 yr old daughter or sister or a child they cared about?? Every single Hollywood type who defends this pedophile will not be anyone who I will ever support as in go to their movies or have any respect for them at all ever again.


joyce   October 1st, 2009 10:50 pm ET

I have always wondered why they couldn't just extradited this man.... I don't care how many "great movies" he makes.. he is guilty of a crime.

The victim's story has never, ever changed her story, it has always been the same. His story hasn't changed and according to that documentary that was done last year, based on a French Interview he did admit that he liked them young, and he had been parading a 15 year old Natassia Kinski around the world...

Justice needs to be served, I don't care how many of his "hollywood buddies" are supporting him. I am from California, and most of us Californian's are disgusted by this dirtbag... I for one have no problem not watching a Debra Winger, Martin Scorsces, or any other actor or director who signs that petition...

Thank you.


Nathaniel Clevenger   October 1st, 2009 10:50 pm ET

Bravo.

Roman Polanski is a convicted child sexual predator. It's as simple as that. He needs help, not more enabling. Hollywood's defense of Mr. Polanski is not just anti-American, it's frustratingly ignorant.

Mr. Polanski raped, sodomized and sexually assaulted a 13 year old girl. This is what someone with a mental illness does. He does not need Hollywood's protection, he needs their demand that he be sent to a place where he can't do it again. Who cares how talented he is? There will always be plenty of talented people in the movie industry. But, if they commit a crimes then they need to do the time.

Hollywood's defense that his talent and life tragedies outweigh his crime is illogical. He should've been jailed and provided with a significant dose of psycho therapy. After all, he is and will remain, a child sexual predator. There are teens who rape other teens and they are given the mark of a sexual predator for the rest of their lives, having to register and be marked on the Internet in perpetuity. Why not Mr. Polanski? What's so special about him?

Further, their excuse-laden defense that he survived the Holocaust and lived through the horrible murder of his beloved wife and unborn child at the hands of the Manson Family, pays no honor to either the Holocaust or to Sharon Tate.

Shame on you, Hollywood. Mr. Polanski deserves better friends. And we, as Americans, deserve better actors. I'll be boycotting all of their t projects until they get a grip on reality..

Revenge is not what's being sought here. It's simple community protection from a sexual predator and others like him who might think they too can get a free pass for their behavior.


Larry   October 1st, 2009 10:51 pm ET

Some of you are missing the point. It doesn't matter one bit that the victim in this case wants the courts to leave the criminal alone. The victim the courts are seeking justice for is actually a 13 year old little girl. She was raped by a 44 year old man. Even if she appeared to go along with everything fully, SHE WAS FAR TOO YOUNG TO MAKE A DECISION LIKE THAT. This middle aged, rich & famous director, who could make the victim famous, hit on a 13 year old, took nude pictures of her (wonder if he told her she could be a star), drugged her, and sex with her, and you think it should all be forgiven as long as that's what the victim wants? As long as she still stands by her account of what actually happened (which amounts to pure rape), then who cares what she thinks should happen to the perp? Would we let any other child rapist off the hook just because the victim says the rapist "did it, but shouldn't be punished,"...or even if the child says they love the rapist? No way. Lock em up, and throw away the key. Some of you need to do some soul searching and figure out whether you're a pervert or not.


Sarah   October 1st, 2009 10:51 pm ET

To those of you who say "it wasn't rape, it was sex with a minor," where do you draw the line? If she was 12 or 10, would that make a difference? A 13 year old girl being drugged and sodomized by a 44 year old man is disgusting and criminal. I don't care if her mother undressed her for him. He shouldn't have done what he did and he should serve some sort of time for it. Even if it's only probation. And by the way, she's not prosecuting him, the state is. She is a witness to a crime. Much like battered women who go back to their husbands.


Jensenfrances   October 1st, 2009 10:52 pm ET

smh for justice, who said there was some 'culpability on the part of the victim', is just wrong. We have statutory rape laws to protect children and a child that is 13 cannot be culpable under the law because he/she cannot consent. Therefore, there is no culpability, regardless of what the perpetrator says. We have laws such as this to protect those who are vulnerable, like children. Clearly, you have issues with our justice system because you state that her comment ' the courts have done more harm than Polanski’ speaks volumes. I hope that you never become a victim and have to rely on a system for which you clearly seem to have some contempt. He pled guilty, he must face his punishment no matter who he is.


John in AZ   October 1st, 2009 10:52 pm ET

Very crass commentary...don't you know it is bad manners to posit examples in the first person? Did you clear your clever hypothetical with the actresses you mentioned?


Ali   October 1st, 2009 10:52 pm ET

Matt, you are an idiot. She didn't lie. His semen was found on her. He admitted his crime. Where or not the mother is guilty of poor judgment is inconsequential. He had a sex with a CHILD. He also then dated a 15 year old. He fled to avoid punishment. He broke the law and should pay for it.


Oner Bicakci   October 1st, 2009 10:52 pm ET

Indeed – it's about time the press stopped giving a voice (and implied credence) to those in Hollywood who are trying to portray Polanski as a victim. Whether its because they fear getting black listed or because they genuinely feel his occupation entitles him to exploit an innocent child, they should know that we're not swayed and find their comments offensive to our values.

Polanski is a confessed child rapist whose flight has thwarted justice for over thirty years. It's long overdue for justice to be served.


Donna   October 1st, 2009 10:52 pm ET

What "beautiful movies"????


Rob Reiner   October 1st, 2009 10:54 pm ET

Roland, you hit the nail right on the head.
These Hollywood people are so out of touch!!
Well done my tasty chocolate man!!


Claire Collins   October 1st, 2009 10:54 pm ET

I am in total agreement with Mr. Martin. I am so tired of reading about superstars getting unfair treatment from our court system due to their celebrity status, wealth, and high-power attorney's. Polanski was originally charged with 6 felony charges (!!) including sodomy and rape with a 13 year-old. Then due to a plea bargain Polanski admits to having sexual intercourse with a minor. Someone tell me how this would be possible with someone without the notoriety we have placed on Polanski in our court system? Why does he deserve special treatment? He needs to be accountable for his lack of morals.


Cj   October 1st, 2009 10:54 pm ET

Mr. Martin,

Great article. Politically I don't agree with you on a lot of issues. But this is a no brainer most of us can all agree on. I could almost understand the sympathy BS if he'd stayed and paid the price then got out early on good time... but he ran away.. what a sick little man............... And Hollywood really is made up of nothing more than a bunch of narcissistic freaks.... Your opening analogy is spot on... if this happen to one of their own, there would be hell to pay........ Thank God for some of the cable channels, I can't stomach going to movies much anymore


Sean   October 1st, 2009 10:55 pm ET

Thank you... been a while since I've read something that bothered to articulate the obvious so well. That said, you might need to use smaller words if you want it to be understood by the troglodytes in Hollywood.


Maria   October 1st, 2009 10:55 pm ET

Mr. Roland you said what I was thinking, precisely. Thirteen years old, horrific and depraved. Shame on all of those who support him being released because of his artistic ability. All pedophiles need to do is make some sort of film, wait they do, guess we should let them go and definitely not arrest them. How disgusting. All those who signed that petition need to apologize to all victims of sexual abuse.


Stan   October 1st, 2009 10:56 pm ET

Finally, an article from RM that makes sense! There is no need to comment further – you've said it all. Well, well, well, done, at last.


NancyP   October 1st, 2009 10:56 pm ET

Thank you for stating the obvious in a way that perhaps even Whoopi, et. al. can understand.

There is no excuse for what Mr. Polanski did. He obviously did not want to face the consequences of his actions, so he fled in the most craven of ways. Hardly the stuff of legend, film or otherwise.

For anyone who wants to pass blame around to victims, parents, society at large and so on, rather than place it in Mr. Polanski's lap (where it belongs), I offer the following scenarios:

A Catholic priest plies an altar girl with wine and drugs and rapes her. He is charged with the crime but flees the country before trial. Whose fault is it? What would the media have to say about this crime? Hollywood? Dan Brown?

A prominent Republican senator meets the teenage daughter of a staffer, offers her a job as a page and plies her with wine and drugs and rapes her. A local newspaper breaks the story. The senator resigns but says the girl tempted him. His marriage is breaking up and he temporarily lost his focus on reality, he says. Whose fault is it? Hers? Mom's? The soon-to-be-ex wife's?

There is no position on Earth so high that the holder of said position is exempt from responsibility. It's all in how people look at things, and I agree with Mr. Martin that this is a "sad and pathetic story." With only one ending, God Willing – a reckoning for Roman Polanski.

There is no reason anyone in Hollywood or anywhere else should be backing Mr. Polanski. He committed several crimes. He pled guilty to a relatively minor charge. He fled the country to evade his (also relatively minor) sentence. How on earth is he a victim of anything – except of absorbing the Hollywood "I can have it because I can afford it" mentality. Shame on Mr. Polanski.

And, as always, kudos to you, Mr. Martin, for zeroing in on facts and making a case for sanity and reason it our increasingly wacked-out world. I truly appreciate the work you do.


Twilite   October 1st, 2009 10:56 pm ET

I also agree – if this horrible crime had happened a week ago rather than many years ago, it's unlikely anyone would be chanting cries of "Free Polanski." Talent should never allow anyone to stand above the law. Neither should politics for that matter. A crime against a minor is the most reprehensible.


Jennifer   October 1st, 2009 10:56 pm ET

I don't often agree with you, Martin, but in this case you are dead on. Polaski is a sick pervert and needs to rot in jail for the rest of his life.


james   October 1st, 2009 10:56 pm ET

Marin proclaims he's a Christian. Yet he supported the most liberal abortionist ever elected.......Obama,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and atacks his brothers.....Obama has stated he believes their are many paths to heaveb,,,,and did not agree with ST. Paul.................Now this public knowledge.........Martin still supported the man. Nuff said.


Guillermo   October 1st, 2009 10:56 pm ET

Roland,
You're usuall wrong, but this time you got it right. I'll make an effort to read more of your columns. You 'da man today!!!


Whatever   October 1st, 2009 10:57 pm ET

To the ones who seem to think that the sex was consensual, a 13 yr. old cannot legally consent to sex. I would bet that if it were your 13 yr. old daughter, you would not have the same opinion. The only reason she wants to leave it behind is probably because she was paid money from the lawsuit against him. It's all shameful......


Dannie   October 1st, 2009 10:58 pm ET

How long do you suppose it will be before one of these Hollywierdo's produce, direct or star in a movie about the soul damaging affects of childhood sexual abuse or rape and then expect an oscar? I bet Sean Penn will play the 13 year girl and will be titled "Woody".
We stood up against Washington, we can surely take on Hollywierd.
I, myself will wait for the Polanski prison movie and Diane Sawyer's, Mike Nichol's wife, full news report.


Mike (VA)   October 1st, 2009 10:58 pm ET

AMEN!!


Cate   October 1st, 2009 10:58 pm ET

Amen to this article- you can tell that many people in Hollywood have a misguided sense of morality. It's so sad that these people think they're so superior to the rest of the population.

Blaming the vicitm, minimizing the behavior, sympathizing with the criminal, and putting a higher value on anything Hollywood, than on a young girls life.

And, what the hell is "rape-rape"? A sexual violation is a sexual violation.


Dan Mason   October 1st, 2009 10:58 pm ET

Matt, you are what is wrong with this country and our schools. He admitted to the crime under oath, took pictures of it, and she lied???
You should lose your job right now, you have no place being around children of any age.
Do kids lie, you bet, do adults lie, damn straight they do. I think it is pretty clear who is lying here and who broke multiple laws.
I guess in your world it is ok to take advantage of people who do not know right from wrong becase they can lie?
You have probably done similar things to children and you should go to jail with this scum bag.


Aaron   October 1st, 2009 10:58 pm ET

Roland – THANK YOU. I've sat by for days since this came back into the limelight....... waiting for someone to say something about the absolute horror of this.... But to my She-grin, I read FRANCE Authorities stand by Polanski. I just about became unhinged. More time goes by and nothing is written on all the main sites about the victim and the severe lack of justice.. Until now..... Left or Right of a political stance, a real human being can see this for what it is and know this dirt bag should spend the rest of his days rotting in a cell. Of course these Hollywood elite are out of touch with reality. 20 million a picture? They're so far removed from real people, a majority of them have no solid basis in reality. As well, you don't hear many Hollywood types voicing their disgust in this either right? Why? Look at those directors and producers supporting this guy...... if they say anything – they'll never work again....... Pathetic. I hope they get him back and he rots. I agree with the boycotting of those names...... and Oh.... for the record.... Woody Allen seems to share his love for children with Polanski as well...... big shock he's supporting.. Jeez.......


Lou b   October 1st, 2009 10:59 pm ET

Thank you Mr. Martin. Finally an intelligent opinion regarding the Polanski case. The Hollywood crowd are so hypocritical. If it was their daughter you can bet they'd want justice. Even justice delayed. But they are so swept up in their own starstruck nonsense – how many other careers manufacture so many awards – that they can't even look at the law as equal for all. Shame on them.


wwc   October 1st, 2009 10:59 pm ET

Just today we find out Elizabeth Smart was raped daily by Brian Mitchell for 9 months. She was the same age as the victim in the Polanski case. Everyone is outraged, as they should be. Why is this any different?


Jessica   October 1st, 2009 11:00 pm ET

There is absolutely NO difference between RAPE and having SEX WITH A MINOR, if you are 40 and the child is 13. How can anyone begin to believe that a 13 year old child under the influence of drugs and alcohol can consent to anything? 13 year old children do not have the ability to consent even if they are sober.

And the point of the justice system is not to "right the victim." It is to punish those who have broken the laws that each state has set. And as long as raping a 13 year old child is illegal in the State of California, then Mr. Polanski should be punished.

It sickens me to think that anyone could ever condone a grown man's sexual contact with a minor. It also sickens me to think that the same people supporting Roman Polanski are probably boycotting Michael Vick for dog fighting. What a proud country we are on our high horse, standing up for pit bulls but not children.


Albert K., from L.A.   October 1st, 2009 11:00 pm ET

I really think that some kind of code of silence about the casting couch is going on here and Woody Allen and the others don't want the press getting any ideas about investigating the BIG story.


Jay   October 1st, 2009 11:00 pm ET

Probably no situation has illustrated as eloquently how out of touch those that live the monied Hollywood life producing fiction are with the real world.

All of the apparent concern for justice and humanity are revealed as nothing more that another fictional performance for the ignorant masses that funnel their hard earned dollars to support the excesses of the self-absorbed clique of performers.

Woody Allen's defense of Mr. Polanski is especially ironic and poignant performance .


Martha   October 1st, 2009 11:00 pm ET

Thankfully there are many people out there with common sense. I thought it flew out the window with Polanski. I will never support any of the hollywood crowd who have supported this rapist. Thank you for standing up for what is right, Roland.


Laura Swan   October 1st, 2009 11:00 pm ET

Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!


Jennifer   October 1st, 2009 11:01 pm ET

James wrote:
Try to investigate before you blog Martin .

Dear James,

Perhaps you should investigate before you blog, or respond with inane comments. Perhaps you should read the grand jury testimony given by the 13 year old girl who was raped. Perhaps you should look into the FACTS, instead of living in a happy never-never land where perverted men get away with raping little girls because they make just fantabulous movies. Oh, and I understand he also changes his oil in a timely fashion.


James   October 1st, 2009 11:01 pm ET

Couldn't agree more with a columnist...


Kevin   October 1st, 2009 11:02 pm ET

I agree with you Roland. Thank you for having the courage to say what you believe. We must go after anyone who hurts children no matter how rich & famous they are.


gretchen   October 1st, 2009 11:02 pm ET

Way to go Mr. Martin.


Alan O   October 1st, 2009 11:02 pm ET

ENOUGH OF THIS SPECULATION. Can someone produce some facts/witnesses to verify if this young woman was known to be 13 when she attentedf the party. I read a comment from someone who attended the party (unfortunately, I don't remember his/her name) who said that she "appeared to be a sultry young woman who looked to be at least 18 and also acted that way "


Lew   October 1st, 2009 11:03 pm ET

You are absolutely correct, Mr. Martin. He needs to appear in court, explain himself, and let justice run its course. Nothing more, nothing less!


Demand Justice   October 1st, 2009 11:03 pm ET

Finally, someone with enough power to get the message out there has voiced what is the only correct position to have in this case. Who cares about his films, his talent, etc... This guy drugged and raped a 13 year old girl and then fled when he was going to be prosecuted.

A US Marine killed a young lady and fled to Mexico and the US hunted him down, worked with Mexico to extradite him, and will eventually bring him to justice.

Why didn't we do that with this guy sooner. The fact this case has remained open so long is absurd. There is speculation of court mishandling, prosecution lying, etc... All of that smoke and mirrors changes nothing that happened in that jacuzzi on that day between those two people. He should rot in jail.

My heart does go out to the victim. I understand her position of wanting to go on with her life. Unfortunately, this is bigger than just her because it shows others how to get away with the same crime.


frances   October 1st, 2009 11:03 pm ET

It may seem like an old Hollywood story, but maybe the girl's mom was star struck and naive, maybe she trusted the famous director when he told her he was doing shoots for a fashion magazine.. Brilliant and creative people can be especially manipulative.
You have to walk in someones' shoes before you judge. Having said that, I agree with Roland and believe if Polanski's so -called friends were really his friends, they would convince him to take this chance to return to the US and face the court, as he should in order to finally get clear with the law, so his victim will no longer be tortured by the media and publicity everytime the case springs up anew. Money cannot erase all the consequences of one's past mistakes. Man up.


Martin   October 1st, 2009 11:04 pm ET

It's too bad that Polanski didn't just suck it up in jail the first time around and take it like a man. Like the dead judge said, he probably would have been out in about another month and half and this would all be behind him long ago.

Now that times have changed and we stick everyone in jail for close to life for almost any crime, he really needs to escape Switzerland somehow.

Roman, if you're reading then you HAVE TO ESCAPE JAIL!


mike   October 1st, 2009 11:04 pm ET

this type of anything goes attitude is why our nation has the social ills we do. I'm sorry a grown man man that drugs and sodomizes a 13yr old is just scum. he is indefensable.


Holly   October 1st, 2009 11:05 pm ET

This is the best, most concise article I have read yet, on the subject of Polanski. It's not about how we feel or the movies he has created or what he went through during WWII, its about manning up and dealing with what he did. He's been pretty damn lucky all these years, had it been one of us or our neighbors, we'd not have had years free to do whatever we pleased. Thank you Mr. Martin, for your wise words. You are so very correct.


Bob in Tucson   October 1st, 2009 11:05 pm ET

THANK YOU for speaking the rage and indignation I've been feeling about all this. Money talks; rich folks walk. It'll happen all over again, I'm sure.


Bucky Haynes   October 1st, 2009 11:05 pm ET

Didn't you used to be a fishing guy?


Paul   October 1st, 2009 11:05 pm ET

You are spot on, Mr. Martin. Polanski should go to jail for the rape and serve additional time for fleeing the justice system, just as any escaped convict would serve additioanl time. If this were to happen today, he'd be labelled a pedophile and be required to register himself, which he should also have to do here.


Jason   October 1st, 2009 11:06 pm ET

Mack, if the sole purpose of justice is to right the victim then we shouldn't punish murder at all. The purpose of justice is to punish criminal behavior.

He committed a heinous crime, one that the state must punish. The victim's wishes are irrelevant. Charges aren't pressed by victims in cases like this, but by the state.


Will Martin   October 1st, 2009 11:07 pm ET

Good piece Martin – spot on – they ought to interview you on this one and post the video on the main page for five days.

Damn their double standard – w/o mentioning the pure idiocy and moral blindness – just practically speaking, they (Hollywood) would be just a bunch of 'nobodies' if it wasn't for all of the nobodies!


Antonio   October 1st, 2009 11:07 pm ET

@Matt:
Did you say that you were a 2nd grade teacher or a 2nd grader? I would think the latter after reading your post. Your written grammar, your logic, and your despicable support for a rapist of children leads me to believe that you have no place teaching children. Shame on you.


Don   October 1st, 2009 11:07 pm ET

We need to boycott the movies and TV shows that the supporters of this scumbag are associated with. Boycott "The View" that Whoppie is on, write to the network and shows producers. If this crime happened to any of their children they would be singing a very different tune.

BOYCOTT THEM!!! WRITE TO THE NETWORKS!!!


OldTimer   October 1st, 2009 11:07 pm ET

A black man should not be commenting on rape. Try Bible study.


E   October 1st, 2009 11:07 pm ET

I am very disappointed with some of these celebrities, especially the women. The man raped a CHILD, end of story, he was guilty, he ran away, he got caught again. He deserves to have to finish his sentence just like anyone else would have to.

And to Whoopi, it WAS a rape-rape, it was even worse, she was a CHILD. How on earth can you say a child being drugged and made ot take pictures and have sex wasn't a rape? She was too young to give consent even if she had been sober. Would you think it was rape if it was YOUR daughter?


Vincent   October 1st, 2009 11:07 pm ET

Roman Polanski committed a crime, would have only had a VERY light sentence for a disgusting act (drugging her alone would have been enough to merit more punishment!) and he fled the country.

How could anyone support this? The very fact that Hollywood supports such deviant practices destroys their credibility as a reliable source of sexual morality.


jeff   October 1st, 2009 11:08 pm ET

Mr. Roland, i often disagree with many of your more liberal leaning political views, but you knocked this one out of the park! hell yes, finally someone with the guts to call hollywood out. i love your courage here and your ability to communicate truth. there still is right and wrong, good and bad. thank you


Jacquie   October 1st, 2009 11:08 pm ET

Well said.


jill   October 1st, 2009 11:08 pm ET

thank you, Roland.

Polanski was covicted in a court of law and needs to come back to answer to his crimes and serve his time.


Perry   October 1st, 2009 11:08 pm ET

This was the commentary I wrote about this situation, and the Hollywood hypocrisy:
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=154946587768&ref=mf


Mike   October 1st, 2009 11:08 pm ET

Very well said Roland! Keep in mind, these are the same people that painted Obama as the second-coming of Jesus Christ!


Z   October 1st, 2009 11:08 pm ET

Totaly right!


Wowwed   October 1st, 2009 11:09 pm ET

To all who feel the prolonged capture & trial process all hurts the victim, I say what about the next victim?

This is about setting a precedent. If RP gets away with rape, the next slightly-less famous hollywood bigwig can too. Then they won't have to be bigwigs before long, and even from hollywood before long after that.

If you or anyone you love could be raped, you shouldn't give a flying fig what the victim has to say about this case today! She's old & ugly today, it's about our children now.

BTW: I have noticed in my many years that victims who were around a lot of violence, such as the holocaust, are capable of more violence themselves. RP's troubled youth shouldn't excuse him at all; only make him more suspect!


Ray   October 1st, 2009 11:09 pm ET

I agree 100%. Regardless of whether this 13 year old girl was a willing participant or not. A 44 year old man should know better and be held accountable for his actions.


Nothingbutgrayareas   October 1st, 2009 11:09 pm ET

Is Polanski guilty of rape? Obvioulsy, yes. Should he face the music? No doubt, yes. And no doubt it will be harder on him now than if he'd faced the consequences back in the 70's, when society was less caring about the damage of rape (I'm sure his lawyers will argue his right to a fair trial in the US). However, I see some terrible things being said in response to Mr. Martin's blog...

First of all, the mother's part in this. Not to excuse what Polanski did, I'm only saying that she is at the very least guilty of gross neglect. No one in their right mind would send their 13 year old child alone to a wolf's playground!!! What was this woman thinking?! She is as culpable as Polanski, in my mind. Was she hoping her daughter would be his paramour and become famous? That is as sick as any sexual acts performed during this horrible event!

I'm also horrified at what I see people apparently advocating – anti-semitism, racism, and boycotting and black-listing of certain people who dare to express their personal opinions. Their opinion may be wrong in our eyes, but they still have a right to it! This is America, land of free speech, isn't it? Or has 1950's McCarthyism only hiding under a tree stump all these years, waiting to be revived in glowing health?! All of this is as equally sickening as the rape itself. Look at yourselves, people! Can Hollywood be reprehensible? Yes!!! And so can politics! And so can a lot of things in even in our "proper" society we choose to ignore every single day! Let the law decide Mr. Polanski's fate here on earth, for better or worse, and let his Maker decide when his time comes. As for anyone saying God will do this or that, PLEASE! I cringe when people purport to know or have some kind of insider track on what God will do. It's blasphemy! And if you want to hold up the Bible to support your right to judge, don't forget to read Romans 2:1 as well.

And last, and it would appear least to most everyone, the victim. Basically she is being raped again. Again her screams of "NO!" are being ignored. Once again she is rendered powerless. I can only imagine how she feels the second time around. Her well-being in this should be the most important of all. Not ours, we morally outraged, perfect and sinless citizens of this country! Not her mother's, a woman I'd love to have a long, hard talk with!!! Not Mr. Polanski's, who has fled his responsibility for far too long. His genius is indisputable as far as I'm concerned, but it makes no excuse for what he did. Simply hers, that once 13 year old girl with stars in her eyes who was led to the slaughter.


Annie Newman   October 1st, 2009 11:09 pm ET

Roland,

You have got this right. I'm deeply grateful that you have voiced Truth. Thank you.


In CA   October 1st, 2009 11:10 pm ET

Matt–there is no way your a teacher–because you are way too stupid–no district that would hire a pedophilia supporter. Polanski himself admitted to the crime. It wasn't a teenage lie. I'm disgusted about how de-sensitized we've become to pedophilia. As far as the parent sending her daughter to his home...she thought she was chaperoned by a friend who backed out last minute.....I too am boycotting any actor who supports this scum and any product endorsed by them.


Aaron   October 1st, 2009 11:10 pm ET

Oh – last thing. Lots of comments about – The victim wants it dropped. The crime is more an issue of being "against the people". When Federal Laws are broken..... they aren't just Forgiven because the victim wants it forgiven....... Why? Because it separates the rich and powerful from the rest of society. Think of it..... Polanski commits a crime that is Federally condemned. If someone can convince someone to say – drop it...... as they were handed bags of money – how many crimes would just disappear? While I feel sorry for this lady at this point in her life having to relive this....... the fact remains. A crime was committed – he made an admission of guilt. And fled. A Federal Crime is not just dropped cause a victim doesn't want it to deal with it. Or in this case – was paid off.


Kat   October 1st, 2009 11:10 pm ET

Mr. Martin,

I agree with you.


Bernadette   October 1st, 2009 11:10 pm ET

Hollywood is a sick society....these people have no idea how to separate their making movies with real life. Their morals are depraved and they think they think so high of themselves when all they can do in life is "pretend" being someone they are not.


Rod McDowell   October 1st, 2009 11:10 pm ET

I disagree with you on a lot, but you hit the nail on the head here!! Right on, Roland!!!


Rick   October 1st, 2009 11:10 pm ET

John Wilkes Booth was a highly talented actor...maybe he should get a pass, too.


Paul H.   October 1st, 2009 11:10 pm ET

You are correct with all your points. This argument is not about being a stereotypical 'Christian Conservative' or 'Hollywood Liberal'. I am neither. These sophomoric labels cloud the simple facts. It is about the protection of our children from those who would prey on them. Thanks, Paul.


Sampson   October 1st, 2009 11:10 pm ET

Polanski is just as guilty as our late "hero" Ted Kennedy is and if I am not mistaken, not too long ago, Roland was praising the Senator that killed a woman in the 1970s and never went to jail. Talk about two-face!


Diogenes   October 1st, 2009 11:10 pm ET

Just a thought. What if we took those 40,000 inmates California is going to have to release early (due to lack of finances) and lock them up with Polanski in his French Villa.


dj   October 1st, 2009 11:10 pm ET

There's something so poetic about Woody Allen protesting a convicted child rapist being punished.


Scott   October 1st, 2009 11:10 pm ET

I don't automatically suspect the French of wrongdoing, but I would like to know how Polanski has taken refuge there for so long. Don't the US and France have extradiction treaties?


Jake   October 1st, 2009 11:11 pm ET

I am a father of 2 little girls and could not imagine how I would react if one of my daughters went through this ordeal. To publicly support Roman Polanski is like coming out in support of any adult that has been convicted of a rape-child pornography type offence. A 13 year old is a child PERIOD!!

The legal system is what it is. If you commit an offense going to court is a crapshoot.

Roman should be grateful that all he had to deal with was the legal system as most fathers that love their daughters would chase him down for eternity for the abuse he inflicted on her that night. SHE WAS A CHILD!!!!

Wake up people and think before you speak of what it would be like for somebody that you love to be victimized by this type of crime!

I find the only bright light in this case is that the victim has forgiven Roman for his actions. I hope and pray that this is true.


Larry   October 1st, 2009 11:11 pm ET

Bravo Roland!! I couldn't have said it better myself.


Joy   October 1st, 2009 11:11 pm ET

I am in total agreement. Hollywood is so morally bankrupt and this proves the point. Had it been a priest who had done this decades ago, these same people would be demanding hid head. Polanski is no genius, he is a sick pedophile that got away with it because he has money and people like Debra Winger to support his sick behavior.


sabastine   October 1st, 2009 11:11 pm ET

Mr Martin, I want to use this opportunity to say a big Thank you. even though this truth hurts, but these hollywood idiots should also remember that this girl was and is someone's daughter, and I know if she was their daughter they would have been trying to bribe the judges and prosecutors to get him in jail.
continue with the truth.


Jonee   October 1st, 2009 11:11 pm ET

Where have all these people demanding Polanski's head been for the past 30 years? I agree he committed a terrible crime and should not have run, but I think this sudden backlash is hypocritical and another example of people being worked into a frenzy over something they saw on the news. His victim wants this to go away. He had a plea bargain that everyone agrees was about to be upended by a corrupt judge. He's lived in exile for 3 decades. I'm sick of people talking about how perverted Hollywood is. Stop looking at Barely Legal before you go casting stones.


Terri   October 1st, 2009 11:12 pm ET

This man did a horrific crime. I know he suffered in his life, but so has many other people and they did not have to rape a little girl. She was between the ages of Jaycee and Elizabeth when she was raped. She was still a child and he was over 30 years older than her!

Maybe the girl never told her mother about going to get her pictures taken for modeling. I don't know. But I see many kids in their early teens wandering around without their parents. Whether the mom allowed her to go or not isn't the issue. It's what the man did.

I can understand the victim wishing this had gone away. Honestly I do, who wants to remember something like that? But it isn't her choice anymore...he fled instead of paying his dues (90 days) molesters and rapists get more than that nowadays thank God...it wasn't like it was the rest of his life. He has to pay for the crime of fleeing his sentence, never mind the horrible thing he did.

And honestly, do you people really think she is the only one? Child molesters have been proven not to change, and usually there are other victims out there...maybe in Europe where he fled to all these years. Shame on all of those in Hollywood saying this was not rape. Boycott them.


Martin   October 1st, 2009 11:12 pm ET

Then again, Jail some jail time might give him some ideas for his next masterpiece.


CLD   October 1st, 2009 11:12 pm ET

Roland, you are spot on. Thank you! Calling the behavior of these token Hollywood stars that support him as “stupid and narcissistic” is on the gentle side. I was thinking a village is missing their idiot but it sounds like a great village is missing many idiots. If it were an unknown person taking nude photos, drugging, and raping a child they would automatically be called a pedophile. It has to be assumed that any sexual activity with a minor is coerced since they are incapable of consenting to sex acts thus making it statutory rape (WOW, that blows a hole in Whoopi’s “rape-rape” theory). There doesn’t have to be evidence of force or threat to be called rape when a child is involved. Let us be clear on that. Let’s remember that he pleaded guilty to unspeakable acts and then fled.

Roland, please display the petition list for us. We need to boycott every name on that list. This will NEVER be acceptable!!


Bernadette   October 1st, 2009 11:12 pm ET

AND TO MATT....she didn't lie to her mom. Her sister overheard her crying telling her boyfriend what happened. The sister told the mom. So...you also should get your facts straight.


PJ   October 1st, 2009 11:13 pm ET

Matt-

13 yos lie, all the time, you are right. However, in this case, there are pictures! YOU, not Roland or others here, need to check your facts before making yourself look like a fool.


whatsamattau   October 1st, 2009 11:13 pm ET

OK...first of all there is a lot more to this then someone being drugged and raped. Why on earth was this girl alone with him in the first place? Parents? Also, the "victim" and her parents have gone back and forth for 30 plus years stating that Polanski was not a rapist. Now the victim is a grown woman and wants everything dropped yet it still interferes with her life.

Also, let's not forget all of the under handed dealing going on in the court room with a terrible judge and money hungry lawyers. It's pathetic. The whole thing is a joke and was most likely about money.

I say drop it and let them man contimue to make make excellent cinema. There are murderers who we just let walk away...OJ anyone?


Chip Johansen   October 1st, 2009 11:13 pm ET

Thanks so much Roland for bringing a sane perspective to this.


e.c.coleman   October 1st, 2009 11:14 pm ET

Polansky is a sick, perverted Criminal.

If the public really agrees that Hollywood is just as perverted in the defense of Polansky, then the Public should refrain from spending money on their films and participating in their stardom.

Whoopi Goldberg is an outrage, as is every other outspoken critic of our Federal Government for arresting Polansky in Switzerland.
Polansky's Guilt and Admission of his crimes toward a 13 year old child should be punished. He is very sick, and I beg that the liberal Media refrain from announcing any further the list of crimes this perverted monster committed against a 13 year old girl.

That the woman, now 45, doesn't want to relive any of this sordid crime is understandable.
However, the Crime is still a Crime, regardless of how long ago it happened. The Crime exists and Polansky must be punished.

Further, Americans should not excuse any person in Hollywood, regardless of how sick or mental, for a crime nor should the public support those actors and members of the Celebrity Crowd by paying for movies and entertainment venues.

Money is the root of all evil and Hollywood will get the message if
we refrain for putting more money in their pockets! No more of my money will be spent on any movie or entertainment of all persons who have come to Polansky's Defense. I'll remember each and every one of these outspolken, radicals for the release of Polansky.

Yes, Hollywood is so corrupt and sick, that all celebrities are clueless.
The entire industry is sick, if one considers the trash being produced.
Don't forget, these are the very persons who started the outspoken hate and lies against President Bush that he endured for 8 long years.
Entertainers are the very persons who are resoibsible for the hate-crazed manner of politicizing, a trend that pelosi, reid, frank and obama appear to embrace with open arms.


Robert   October 1st, 2009 11:14 pm ET

Thank you Roland! I disagree with a lot of your political analysis but here you go standing up for how it is. I am behind your analysis of this situation 100%... further evidence that both political sides can view wrong as wrong without debate.

As for those Hollywood "movers and shakers," what is wrong with you? We give you our money and watch your movies; and somehow you think that you have the right to declare a pedophile's arrest as a "miscarriage of justice." It is clear your relevance is limited to the world of imagination.

Being an artist does not justify the predation of an innocent child... and don't even start on the notion that this girl "asked for it" or anthing along those lines... that mentality is the cause for the perpetuation of pain put onto countless victims in this country!


Lisa   October 1st, 2009 11:14 pm ET

Thank you Roland Martin!! Very well said. Priests are arrested years later with angry mobs waiting to lock them up...why not this guy? Using their logic, a pedophile that was molested as a child should be let off without penalty because they were victims right? So transparent of the big guys in Hollywood to try this. Sad.


Henry Miller   October 1st, 2009 11:14 pm ET

I seldom agree with Mr Martin–actually, it may never have happened before–but he nailed this one!


Bill   October 1st, 2009 11:14 pm ET

ABSOLUTELY! Right on the nose, Roland.

Mr. Polanski committed a crime – even he admitted that. And then he left the country because he didn't want to do the time he *thought* the judge was going to lay down. Mr. Polanski should have long ago voluntarily returned to this country to take care of this issue – but he didn't.

And SHAME SHAME SHAME on those moronic people who are now defending him because of his "art". Who cares what he does to make money? He RAPED A 14 year old girl... and he should AT LEAST man up and face the music. He may very well get away with time served... but he needs to face it... or he should be found in contempt and sentence to the maximum possible. You and I couldn't get away with this, nor should we. Why can he?


B   October 1st, 2009 11:14 pm ET

I think it is so funny that Woody Allen signed onto the petition to release Roman Polanski. Of course he would sign it.


Hannah Evans   October 1st, 2009 11:15 pm ET

Right on, Roland.

On the other hand, if it were a nobody who had raped a nobody nobody would notice.

After all this time, I think it's sufficient punishment that he has not been allowed back in this country – even to accept special awards. Don't LA County and California have better uses for their tax monies?

He's a child molesting creep. Let France have him. Let's go after the mother that let him have her child instead.


Jim J   October 1st, 2009 11:15 pm ET

How ironic that this is happening at the same time as Elizabeth Smart is testifying against Brian David Mitchell...


Katharine Osborne   October 1st, 2009 11:16 pm ET

I'm amazed at how many of you are not familiar with this case, even though it's been in the headlines for days.

1) Polanski and the victim settled out of court

2) the victim wants the case dropped because it's continuation is more painful to her than the rape experience was (and may only have been rape because of her age - she may have consented)

3) there were issues of corruption in the original case, and it's likely that if Polanski is extradited to the US, he would still go free on these technicalities. Even if he had committed an ax murder, this would still be a serious problem with the case. We are all lucky to live with a judicial system that is harsh on it's own corruptions (and frankly, it could be harsher)

4) there is a statute of limitations, so I doubt he would be retried

5) you people weren't there, but there were witnesses. Anjelica Huston was there at the time and stated that she thought the girl could have been 25 (I knew girls in middle school who definitely looked and dressed like adults and were sexually active, so I can see this isn't entirely out of the realm of possibility), which makes it unlikely that Polanski wittingly "preyed" on a little girl

6) It is possible that the victim set up the situation (why was she even allowed to do a nude photoshoot by here parents?) in order to extort money from a wealthy and famous director. Since there was an out-of-court settlement, we might never know if that was the case

A lot of the comments above appear to be kneejerk reactions to limited facts (and Martin left out a lot of facts in the case - bad journalism, but salacious commentary).

The part of this that I agree with most of you on is that it was wrong of him to flee the country. Even with the apparent judicial corruption in the case, it would have been the right thing to do to fight that injustice from jail, if need be (he certainly had the resources to do so).


Maureen Huseman   October 1st, 2009 11:16 pm ET

Roland, I agree with you 100%. When are child molestor/abusers going to get proper punishment? And I think it should be to rot in a very small cell till they die. And the system keeps letting these freaks free, and they do it again. We need to protect all children from abuse of any kind.


T West   October 1st, 2009 11:17 pm ET

Amen! Finally, someone who makes sense. It's really scary to think that so many people think that he is the victim. Give me a break!


joe   October 1st, 2009 11:17 pm ET

Left, right or center, Martin's take is spot on. It would be interesting to know what percentage of Polanski's advocates have daughters, and what percentage of those actually raised their daughters. Whatever the case, these advocates have issues, as something is clearly clouding their senses. Forgiveness, second chances, yada, yada, yada. Justice first.


Beck   October 1st, 2009 11:18 pm ET

Hmmm...you did not mention that the girls' mother let her go over to Jack Nicholson's house-she was an actress trying to play the Hollywood game and unfortunately her daughter had to pay the price. Me thinks that anyone who is willing to allow their "innocent" daughter go to a movie stars' Mullholland romper room should be prosecuted themselves.

Roman served his time as mandated by the judge. You really think that the courts are going to extradite someone over 88 days? Doesn't the State of California have more important things to worry about?

Roman's tragedies aside, it has been thirty years plus, and even the victim just wants this to go away...and why now? It has been reported that Polanski has been to Switzerland many a time, but now they are suddenly compelled to arrest him. Politics? Were they bored?


Bob B   October 1st, 2009 11:18 pm ET

You are 100% correct. Well said!


Kimmer669   October 1st, 2009 11:18 pm ET

Thank you, Roland, for calling it as it is– RAPE. This man needs to be behind bars for the rest of his life.

And yes, Whoopi, it is RAPE-RAPE!!


Erin Morgan   October 1st, 2009 11:18 pm ET

Mr. Martin, you have articulated my thoughts exactly. I am so tired of the twisted morality of the entertainment industry elite. Often they are pretty sneaky in pushing their views while trying to make the rest of us seem "out of touch" for having good values, but this time, they are more blatant than ever. You're right – they DON'T know how truly twisted they sound! They live on a different planet!


Matt   October 1st, 2009 11:19 pm ET

Roland, I have to be honest and say I've hated every other piece of yours I've read. This one, however, is spot on. It's nice to see somebody in the media finally say the guy needs to be brought to justice. This isn't an 18 year old caught having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend – it's a man in his FORTIES drugging and raping a LITTLE GIRL. This guy oughta hang.

Write more like this, Roland!


Kenny   October 1st, 2009 11:20 pm ET

Like an earlier post, this is the first time I've ever posted on a blog...but I do so because Mr. Martin deserves the highest praise for standing up for what is right. Mr. Polanski's Hollywood pals are disgusting, deplorable, and amoral...which is why I've only been to two movies in the past 7 years. I throw away my trash at home; why would I pay to see it in a theatre? Kudos, Mr. Martin, and God bless you.


Jo   October 1st, 2009 11:20 pm ET

I am speaking as a grown woman now, with a 13 year old girl, and as a woman who at the tender age of 14 was raped, "my rapists" was never jailed, and yes I would say the "easy" way out of all of this is to look the other way, even for the girl who got raped.

Life is not "easy" though, and I can sure bet life was far from "easy" for the girl who got raped, even though I have read that she never wanted him jailed to begin with. Then again would you if you knew this justice system was going to put you through hell for saying something? I think they should first jail him for as long as they can just for running, and if he lives long enough for the "important" people in Hollywood to wake up and/ or shut up in supporting him, then deal with the rape case.

I wonder if he stopped raping young girls while he was on the run. I do not believe MOST rapist and /or molesters of the young ever get over their need for that depravity. So I would say jail him for the remainder of his life.


Vic   October 1st, 2009 11:20 pm ET

Roland I agree. He should have served his absolutely inappropriate 90 day time and then left the country. No one would have cared then. Now, trying to change the rule just because he's "brilliant" does not matter. And it's irrelevant that the victim wants this behind her. She was not in a position to judge back then which is why the law sought to proctect her interests once they were VIOLATED. He needs to face the music, end of story.


Evan   October 1st, 2009 11:20 pm ET

You lost me at "as a Christian." How do Christians have a monopoly on "love and compassion," and why do they always feel compelled to tell everyone that they are good because they are "a Christian?" Do people ever say, "I feel love because I'm Mongolian," or "as an atheist, I was taught compassion?"
Maybe you should examine your use of the terms "Hollywood heavyweights" and "Hollywood folks." These phrases, like ones such as "New York Times people" or "East Coast Liberals," are thinly-worded references to a certain religious group that lives primarily in New York and L.A.
I'm sure you would take offense at the statement that O.J. Simpson was mostly defended by "urban folks." Please stop using Roman Polanski's case as yet another reason to attack the world's most prolific artistic community.


Doyle Wheeler   October 1st, 2009 11:22 pm ET

Roland
Dude you are spot on, this piece of human garbage thinks because he can make movies he should get away this. He's thumbed his nose at the American justice system now he should pay.
These Hollywood fools and has been's are trying to get their names in the papers they should be ashamed of themselves. They are so used to being cuddled they honestly believe they are above it all. High time they started paying for the crap maybe the next generation of Hollywood brats wouldn't be trying to get away everything on the planet.


mike   October 1st, 2009 11:22 pm ET

To Matt

A 2nd grade teacher – you have got to be kidding – that was pretty funny

But if it wasn't a joke – I wouldn't be surprised to see you on the next Dateline special as a predator


Chris   October 1st, 2009 11:22 pm ET

@@@Bullseye@@@
Roland I don't always agree with you, but you hit the nail right on the head with this one. Thank you!


Just Sayin   October 1st, 2009 11:22 pm ET

It seems clear by some of the comments left on this page....from a few MEN...one being a school teacher(Matt)....that they are pedophiles in hiding....and it's certainly a good thing that these comments are left with a fairly anonymous identity...otherwise you SICK people might have some questions to answer.....Polanski is a sick man....and if anyone thinks for one second that he only did this once....well..then they are lying to themselves...pedophiles are NEVER rehabilitated....Rich or Poor....Black(Michael Hsu) or White.....pedophilia is a depraved crime that should be punished as harsh as possible.....children months old to teenagers(13) should be protected...NO MATTER THE CIRCUMSTANCES!!!!! They have little to no voice so we must speak for them

Matt I pray you aren't a teacher in my city.....I bet if authorities checked your computer they might find some shady material.....


Lilarose in Bandon, Oregon   October 1st, 2009 11:22 pm ET

Marrying at age 14 or 15 was common when my gr-gr-gr-gr grandparents wed. But life expectancy was in the 40's then.

I don't condone what Polanski did at all. But this young woman could have married at 13 in other times. So when people say she was "under age" or "not mature enough," that technically isn't true.

Her mother called the cops on Polanski but the mother needed to be tried for this rape as well, because she was not supervising her daughter.


Scott   October 1st, 2009 11:23 pm ET

I don't think this is as clear cut as Mr. Martin indicates. Besides using words like sadistic (which Mr. Martin apparently has not idea of its meaning), the prosecutor today admitted lying about the case. Also, why did Polanski undergo a psychological evaluation? Because not long before the incident his wife was murdered by the Manson family while he was filming in France. It seems he might have just snapped. Furthermore, the action did not take place at his home but at another celebrity's, who also admitted that the girl, while 13, could have passed for 25. Not sure if Polanski new this at the time.

I am also mighty disturbed by the fact that many are comparing Polanski to people on catch a predator and other such crap. A one time offense does not make one a predator. This could be a good time to discuss the scarlet lettering of every "sex offender" in the US. Should Polanski have gone to jail? Yes, but 30 years later, what would be the point? To satisfy America's holier than thou attitude? What would it change; nothing. But this does bring us to the central problem with the American penal system; it is vindictive instead of rehabilitative. Polanski going to jail now isn't justice but self-righteousness.

Mr. Martin should be taken off the air because he only insites people's emotions instead of causing people to reflect on the situation.


sushi   October 1st, 2009 11:23 pm ET

It is truly disgusting the lengths that these idiots will got to in order to exonerate an "artist." I hope the public takes notice and puts their money where their mouths are and hurt these rape apologists at the box office. It is simply inexcusable.


jen   October 1st, 2009 11:23 pm ET

The above people blaming this on the Jews are truly some of the dumbest people I have ever encountered. I am a Jew, and we don't have this "us against the world" mentality that idiots think we do. I don't know a single Jew who is thinking "oh poor Roman Polanksi, he survived the Holocaust!" In my temple (which is very large) we're hoping he'll get sent back to the US and finally get what's coming to him. Right is right, and we don't need to all be Christians to agree that rape of a child is ALWAYS wrong.

The Jews are well aware that surviving the Holocaust does not automatically make someone A) a good person or B) totally off the hook for anything they do. We believe that Polanski will still have to face his maker, even if he never does face justice on Earth, and if he thinks he'll be getting the "Hollywood" treatment in heaven, he'd best think again. So enough with the blatantly bigoted, "Jews think they can do anything because of the Holocaust" bs. They have a name for that stupidity, it's called Anti-Semitism.


Ben Purcell   October 1st, 2009 11:23 pm ET

You, my good sir, are spot on. I am appalled at the reaction these Hollywood people are having. I'm sure if it was their daughter, they would be thinking differently.

I hope he gets extradited, and is sent to jail (Not only for his original charge, but his fleeing charge as well). If he is not, or if he lets go, then all faith in this system will be lost. Because then we know, the rich & famous are above the law.


jimbo1984   October 1st, 2009 11:23 pm ET

it's sad when status can get you excused for such a sick act


outraged   October 1st, 2009 11:23 pm ET

This man, no matter what the excuse no matter the fame and brilliance of his work, raped an innocence young girl. Plead guilty to the crime and then left the country to avoid his responsiblilty and punishment. He made a choice. Two choices. Now, it is time for him to accept the consequences of his actions, and serve the jail time he so richly deserves. This is a matter solely, of justice.


Holly Peterson   October 1st, 2009 11:24 pm ET

I agree! He needs to suffer the full extent of the law.


Brock   October 1st, 2009 11:24 pm ET

Totally agree. These Hollywood morons are way off.

What a great example we would be setting by allowing this rapist off due to the fact the crime happened a long time ago... Just run away from justice and eventually you'll be forgiven! Disgusting. The whole thing makes me sick.


Pam   October 1st, 2009 11:25 pm ET

Matt,
It doesn't matter if the mother dropped her off or was on the property as some articles have indicated. Sex with a 13 yr old is a crime and not matter how much he has suffered from the various traumas in his life, he needs to be held accountable. I wonder if you'd be singing the same tune if it was your 13 yr old daughter?

Roland....I don't always agree with you but you are on target with this article. Great work....let's hope it wakes up some of the so called Hollywood elite that are protesting his innocence. I wonder if Debra Winger and company would feel this way if it was their daughter.


Cassi   October 1st, 2009 11:25 pm ET

Looks as though Matt (8pm) wants some validation for activities he'd be interested in. How could any man condone this type of behavior with a child. Not to mention Polanski confessed.


Steve in Bama   October 1st, 2009 11:25 pm ET

I suspect that those who post on here that "the victim has moved on..." blah, blah, blah are pedophiles or view child pornography themselves.

They try to make the only victim here to be the girl. An adult molester can seriously alter the view of a young person to the point that the victim doesn't feel "victimized", yet a crime against society has certainly been perpetrated regardless.

Just look at the recent Druggar case. The young girl in that case may have "bonded" with her abuser, but it doesn't make his actions any less criminal.

Admit that you're trying to justify your own sick thoughts and behavior in wanting to gloss over this crime!


Egan   October 1st, 2009 11:25 pm ET

This is the first time I have ever agreed with Roland. Good job Roland, see if you can keep it up:)


Sara in ND   October 1st, 2009 11:25 pm ET

You are exactly right about this creepy bastard. I have never gone to one of his movies for this very reason, just the same as I have not seen a Woody Allen film since his bizarre relationship with his daughter; although admittedly, there hasn't been much to see since that whole mess surfaced. I can't even begin to describe my disgust at, and disappointment in, the people who are standing up for him.

Now, as for that second-grade teacher in the post above – I wouldn't want anyone who can rationalize behavior like that anywhere near my children.


Mike   October 1st, 2009 11:25 pm ET

Very well said Roland.
Sure Polanski has been through some awful things in his life, but so must most of the pedophiles in this world. I mean, how else COULD a person commit something so horrendous? Never should a child rapist EVER be excused from his or her crime! Any other person in his shoes would be one heck of a condemned person, why not he?
Hollywood? WAKE the heck up!


Amber   October 1st, 2009 11:27 pm ET

Our legal system does not recognize rape-rape and rape–it recognizes the crime of statutory rape which Roman Polanski admitted to. Talent is not a defense against an admitted crime. There are many talented people in prison who have in common with Polanski that they violated of the law (wrongful convictions excluded). While I hesitate to acknolwedge the lunacy coming out of Hollywood, I wonder how they would feel if Polanski's victim had been their child. Society punishes an admission of sex with a minor, here 33 years the perpetrator's junior, because it values the protection of children and the right they hold to make decisions and enter into conduct as they are able to understand the consequences of the same. Polanski should have been long since punished and his Hollywood partisans are doing more harm to him than good.


Lee Pants   October 1st, 2009 11:27 pm ET

Well said Roland. Right on target 100%. Narcistic self indulgent people can never see the light, and these Hollywood clowns show off their blind spots big timewith their warped views of Polanski's actions. Off to jail Roman, great senior care I hear in prison.


kim   October 1st, 2009 11:27 pm ET

Maybe he will get plied in jail with alcohol and drugs, then get what he gave? I am harsh, what he did was not only harsh but horrible. He stole that girls innocence and future from her. And Whoopi, lay off the pot it is dulling your senses.


MOSAS   October 1st, 2009 11:27 pm ET

THATV IS WHY ISLAM PUNISHES AND INCRIMNATES THESE TYPE OF PERVERTS.


Ken   October 1st, 2009 11:27 pm ET

Totally agree. How anyone can defend this rapist is beyond my understanding.


Nancy Bosak   October 1st, 2009 11:27 pm ET

You are absolutely right about this!


Cooper   October 1st, 2009 11:28 pm ET

Amen! I work in Hollywood and can't believe that people actually believe that it's OK for him to rape a child just because he's Roman Polanski. People, who cares what he does for a living or how wealthy he is, rape is rape. Whoopi should be ashamed of herself – how can she possibly think that drugging a 13 year old and then having sex with her isn't 'rape-rape' – Disgusting.


Kelly   October 1st, 2009 11:28 pm ET

Bravo!!! I would really like to face Whoopi Goldberg personally to ask her exactly what "rape-rape" is. A 44 year old man feeds a 13 year old girl Quaaludes and champagne and forces himself on her and this is not rape? Wow, I hate to know exactly what she thinks rape is. And if this happened to her own 13 year old girl, would she still see it as "rape-rape" or just plain RAPE?


true citizen   October 1st, 2009 11:28 pm ET

It is sick to hear people saying that Polanski should be left alone. He is a sick person, commited a crime and must be punished for it jsut like everyone else.


Dave Larson   October 1st, 2009 11:28 pm ET

Right on Roland,
The whole thing reminds me of what God's word says:
"John 3:19
This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil."


mike nichols   October 1st, 2009 11:29 pm ET

Thank you for sharing your opinions on Mr. Polanski without mincing words. Like most who have commented, I am completely in agreement that he should be brought to justice for his crime. However, there is one aspect to this case that you didn't address and should have.

Disregarding the morally challenged idiots in Hollywood, the only seemingly rational responses I've read in support of Polanski cite the current wishes of the victim. While it is true that Samantha Geimer's has stated that she thinks the whole case should be dropped, I would have to question her motive.

She wants the whole thing to go away quietly so it doesn't affect her current life. And while I can understand that point of view, I believe she has a responsibility to deal with the publicity that comes from his being brought to justice. If every criminal case were dropped simply because the victim or the victim's family didn't want to think about it anymore, what sort of message does that send to all the monsters out there? Frankly, I find her stance irresponsible and selfish.

To Mrs. Geimer and those who argue in favor of dropping the case against Roman Polanski- The laws of this land are set forth by The People, for The People. They are not "guidelines" that can be tossed aside based on the wishes of one person. They are in place to protect us ALL as a society. Mr. Polanski's actions were in violation of OUR laws and THE PEOPLE demand he be brought to justice!

-And for anyone wondering, yes my name, coincidentally, really is Mike Nichols.


Hilary   October 1st, 2009 11:30 pm ET

Preach it, Roland. I could not agree more and this is what I have been saying all along.


bob myatt   October 1st, 2009 11:31 pm ET

Thanks Roland....


Red State Bill   October 1st, 2009 11:31 pm ET

Where the hell is Al Qaeda when you really need em? Tell you what Osama – nuke Hollywood and we'll give you a pass on that one.

The whole country would be better off.....


Doyle Wheeler   October 1st, 2009 11:31 pm ET

AL
you're an idiot France did welcome that rapist with open arms and they did not allow him to be sent back to the U.S. to face justice. Read a little before you open your mouth and start spouting garbage.


Gil   October 1st, 2009 11:33 pm ET

Thank you Roland!
And Im with Bill. Please post a list of every person (and I use the term loosely) who signed that disgusting petition on polanski's behalf. Like Bill I will not be watching or in any other way participating in any project these people are associated with from now on.

Please Roland get us the list of names.

gil


Geoff   October 1st, 2009 11:33 pm ET

Victims don't dictate the legal process – if they did our judicial system would be a complete mess. I sympathize for the victim, but her feelings are mostly irrelevant in this case. And as someone already mentioned, she wouldn't be going through this now if Polanski had taken responsibility for his actions instead of running off to France to live a life of money and privilege, getting treated like a hero.


sam   October 1st, 2009 11:34 pm ET

No, not really. Hollywood is not clueless, like the rest of the world, nobody cares. How many years have passed. He has been through soooooo much, really I do not care.


mike   October 1st, 2009 11:34 pm ET

BOYCOTT ANY MOVIE STAR WHO SUPPORTS THAT LOW-LIFE RAPIST


Amanda   October 1st, 2009 11:34 pm ET

Polanski is a sorry excuse for a human being. All those Hollywood actors/actresses that signed the petition should be boycotted. They are all disgusting human beings.


Graham   October 1st, 2009 11:35 pm ET

What Polanski did was wrong, no one could rationally disagree.

What I can disagree with is all these comments about "Hollywood this and Hollywood that". SOME people in the entertainment industry support Polanski, and SOME don't. Just like every other sector of America, there are different opinions. If you want to caste your ire at someone because of what they express, please keep it to that person. Don' play into grouping people because of the job they do, or what part of the country then come from.

Ohh and to all those people who keep saying "Shame on You" to the commenter Matt; SHAME ON YOU. The guy expressed his opinion on a subject, and you happen to disagree. How dare you call into question his ability as a teacher, just because it makes you feel better!


T. Stein   October 1st, 2009 11:35 pm ET

Well.... for woody allan it's a no brainer. He did the same thing with his step daughter.


JMBarrett   October 1st, 2009 11:35 pm ET

I'm sorry for this woman, who wishes this whole media blitz would go away and let her live a quiet and normal life. Every time the subject comes up, she's victimized again. You can't punish Polanski enough, in my opinion. But ultimately, the victim's rights should be respected, and all she wants is for this to go away. This should have been resolved so many years ago. Shame on Polanski and the US justice system.


JJ A32   October 1st, 2009 11:35 pm ET

Ok everyone, let's go to the Church on this one. What does the Church have to say? Nothing, because pastor's and preachers yada yada alike have been getting away with this for years. Leave Polanski or whatever his name is alone. This guy, who admitted to the crime, admitted to it as part of a plea bargain, a plea bargain that the judge turned away from after he initially agreed to it. What the hell was this 13 year old girl doing at the Hollywood party anyway? Lock her f-ing parents up for being morons!


Teena   October 1st, 2009 11:36 pm ET

Thank you, I was starting to think I was the only way that felt this guy totally got off. I agree, I'm boycotting these actors and their movies also. Woody Allen a supporter? Of course that pedophille thinks he shouldn't do jail time, why wouldn't. He's another one that I'm shocked people still support. Incest & Rape are pretty serious and sick crimes on young vulnerable women. And Whoopi, Rape-Rape, are you serious? You should be ashamed!


s   October 1st, 2009 11:36 pm ET

Well put!!!!! I wonder how many of these celeberties would see it as rape if it had happened to their 13 year old daughter? What the man did was sick. He did this to someones child and took away her innocense. Rape is Rape whoopi! wow! the ignorance!


Evan   October 1st, 2009 11:36 pm ET

By the way, Harvey Weinstein, Debra Winger, Michael Mann, Woody Allen and Mike Nichols (five of the six supposed "Hollywood" villains you named above) are Jewish. But I guess you didn't know that when you decided to single them out for your anger.
You omitted such decidedly non-Jewish Polanski supporters as Pedro Almodovar, Salman Rushdie, Wong Kar Wai, and the Polish government, but those people don't really fit in with your theme, do they?


Melissa   October 1st, 2009 11:36 pm ET

Someone needs to start up a petition on Facebook, myspace, etc. to boycott the immoral hollywood bastards who would support this rapist. If you twitter start your petition there. It shouldn't be to hard to figure out which entertainment studio produces and distributes these
idiots movies, books, music, etc. I for one will boycott anything with their name attached to it from this day forward. The only reason the victim wants it all to go away now is because there was never any closure for her. Her pain could have ended and allowed her to move on years ago. Instead every year that man lived free she lived in denial. Now her wound is reopened. Its no wonder she wants it to end. Make him pay!


Teresa   October 1st, 2009 11:36 pm ET

Mr. Martin,
You are right. He should face the justice system. As to Hollywood stars backing him up just look at who it is. Woody Allen a man who had sex and then married his step adopted daughter.
To Ms Goldberg....... RAPE IS RAPE..... a 13 year old can not consent to having sex with a 44 year old and you should be ashamed for your comment.
Mr. Martin, please keep up your good work.


Steve   October 1st, 2009 11:36 pm ET

La Viro – you think being anti-Semitic entitles you to hire level of justice then us, simple dirty Jews? I hate Polanski and every other child rapist with as much hatred as any one else, I wish he rot in Russian dirty jail and not in US all-inclusive resort-type facility. And I couldn’t care less if he’s Jew, Latino or a penguin. Far all I care, Nazis had extremely talented people in their ranks as well, so what? They are all murders, and I would hang them all, on the same branch with the monster Polanski. And btw, Nazis were Jew-haters too, just like you. You should have not posted here, I’m sure there are plenty of Jew-hating sites that will gladly grant you a membership.


LG   October 1st, 2009 11:37 pm ET

Well, I don't think he is a monster. Deeply troubled maybe but not a monster. no one is that one dimensional, even the worst of us has a human side. However, he must take responsibility for his actions. When it comes to hurting others, we have to take the heat.

I think hollywood is defending him based on his accomplishments in film making .I have enjoyed his films myself. Of course it is a loss when such a talented person has done something so self destructive...BUT HE DID IT! He must pay his debt now as any of us would being ordinary citizens.

Criminal behavior cannot be ignored and swept under the carpet. It is a tragedy no matter where you are in the loop. I would hope that Mr. Polanski regrets his actions. But I am more conerned with the victim after all these years, who is asking for it to be let go.And that is the best reason why to let it go because the victim needs that to happen.
He is guilty as hell. we all know that and let him live with it.


Brian   October 1st, 2009 11:37 pm ET

nice job on the artical . I am truly scared of what our society is becoming. When you hear people on here defending a person that took advantage of and raped a girl its scary. The teacher in there Matt was it thinking this guy is some type of hollywood god and that kids lie makes it ok. how wrong is that and this guy teaches our kids. burn the director and all the lowlife scum who think its ok and include all the other hollywood pieces of dung like woody allen. i will urinate on there graves.


Mike   October 1st, 2009 11:37 pm ET

Here's what we should do. Get a list of all the Hollywood people who have signed the petition to let Roman Polanski go, then see whether they vote Republican or Democrat. I know what my guess is....


Jamie Bloomfield, Adelaide, Australia   October 1st, 2009 11:38 pm ET

Could not agree more. Those supporting Polanski should be ashamed of themselves.


Quezz   October 1st, 2009 11:38 pm ET

I agree that Polanski should be put in jail for what he did. Were this girl 13 or 31, I would want to see anyone who coerces another person into sex pay the price. The man is sick, and I find Hollywood sick for defending him.

Still, I am bothered that no one speaks of the mother who allowed her child into this man's home, nor the girl who was "modeling" illegally...who was not a virgin at the time of this crime and thus knew what could happen in such a situation. I think she and her mother wanted fame...and unfortunately, they got it in the worst way. It's awful. I don't see any way I can condone the fact this girl was in Polanski's house in the first place. It takes ALL PARTIES INVOLVED to avoid these kinds of situations. I worry that for fame or for money, and mother and her daughter were willing to sacrifice her innocence. That's equally as sick as Polanski's act.


Gil   October 1st, 2009 11:38 pm ET

It baffles me that The View hasn't fired whoopi goldberg for the utterly reprehehsible "...it wasn't rape rape..." Do the right thing ABC.


RobinP   October 1st, 2009 11:38 pm ET

OK, I agree he did wrong, but come on Hsu, this has nothing to do with race, can we please stop playing that card!!!
Oh and should he of served his 48more days–YES, but it was only 48 days more-we can end the witch hunt he will not be in jail forever people so I really think this article is a waste of time!! Because of what the law let him do (plead to a lesser charge) these Hollywood stars are completely sane for standing behind him. He was not convicted of rape, so get over it folks it is now between him and his maker...
UGHHHH quit trying to blame all our problems on Hollywood and look in the mirror!!! They are not the problem, they are just living their life, please I suggest you go out and do the same!


Lisa Hanna   October 1st, 2009 11:38 pm ET

If Mr. Polanski were a priest and his abuse of a child in his parish had happened 30 years ago, the Hollywood elite and probably even "schoolteacher Matt" would be screaming for his blood. But somehow they are no so outraged when the pervert is a "brilliant artist". And it is an insult to other Holocaust survivors and families of murder victims to use those tragedies in Polansky's life to excuse his perversion. This far left. pro choice, tree hugging liberal says the man should go to prison for a long, long time. No excuses. A perv is a perv, even if he has the keys to Jack Nicholson's house.


s   October 1st, 2009 11:39 pm ET

I find it humorous that the people backing polanski up are not very credible themselves. C'mon, woody allen???? didn't you sleep with your adopted step child then marry her??? sick! i guess people like you would think it was o.k.


Kym   October 1st, 2009 11:39 pm ET

I totally agree! The girl was only 13! I don't know why people defend him.


jo an   October 1st, 2009 11:39 pm ET

Roland ....you are THE GROWN UP!!! This is not the first time the
Holocaust has been used to justify crimes against humanity!!


James   October 1st, 2009 11:39 pm ET

Wow, did Roland Martin actually attack Whoopi Goldberg, who is black.


cindy   October 1st, 2009 11:39 pm ET

I could not agree more. I don't care if the victim feels he should get off
because that is why these crimes are prosecuted by the state itself. This is not just a crime against this individual, it is a crime against society. People seem to forget this.


Kate   October 1st, 2009 11:39 pm ET

The piece is so well written... I couldn't agree more.


Jayson   October 1st, 2009 11:39 pm ET

Absolutely correct. But for the people crying racism (Hsu). Shut up already. I could do without the Christian nonsense too.


Dimitry   October 1st, 2009 11:40 pm ET

This situation is a travesty and a great example of American "justice" gone awry. After reading all of the books, many articles and seeing the TV coverage and documentaries I am convinced that there was no crime committed. It is clear there's no grey area. Polanski is innocent. Hearing all this makes me want to move to a more civilized country. Wake up people and get your facts straight. Makes me embarrassed to be an American.


Henry McClain   October 1st, 2009 11:40 pm ET

Of the Hollywood elites who signed that petition, who among you are ready and willing to stand in Polanski's place before a judge and serve his time?

0

Now sit down and shut up!


ana   October 1st, 2009 11:40 pm ET

why doesn't the general public "get" that victims do not bring charges against criminals, drop charges or get to decide cases in our judicial system. It doesn't matter that the victim in this case would feel better if her abuser was left alone!

the case is about the state of California v Roman Polanski........many victims of violent crimes do not want to testify at trial, it makes perfect sense that a victim of such a publicized crime would want it to just disappear.
BUT guess what folks!
In this country when the state brings charges against a defendant and that defendant decides not to go to trial and admits/ pleads to the charges against him he is found guilty.
Roman Polanski pled guilty!....and then he ran away
in order for him to receive the benefit of any bargain he made with the state....he would have had to show up and be sentenced over 30 years ago.
guess what ...when he fled to avoid the legal consequence of his admitted actions....he lost his chance.
he should have to answer for his actions.
period.

he should


Karolein   October 1st, 2009 11:40 pm ET

I agree, the point is that he must return to face justice. Rather than face a measly 48 days more in prison, he left. If there was any misconduct, it likely would have been resolved under appeal if he'd stayed. He didn't complete the process and thus justice has not been served.


David   October 1st, 2009 11:41 pm ET

Spot on Roland Martin.


Annie   October 1st, 2009 11:41 pm ET

I love the people who get on here and tell folks to do their research then repeat exactly what they saw on a documentary (hardly historically sound). I read the transcripts from the trial. This guy is filth. The girl was vilified in the media (called Lolita and plastered all over papers at the age of 13) and that is why the plea bargain was brought about. The whole thing is disgusting and Polanski is the most disgusting part.

Matt, you should not be a teacher. That scares me.


David Jones   October 1st, 2009 11:41 pm ET

You are spot on. I can't believe so many people are rising to defend this man. All one needs to do is read the Grand Jury testimony of the victim to see that this was a crime and deserves the same punishment I'd get were I to have done such a horrific thing. Years in prison (and now years more for running from justice).

You can read that transcript here:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0610081polanski1.html


Rob   October 1st, 2009 11:41 pm ET

Excellent commentary. Someone should start a petition to boycott the Hollyweird clowns who signed the petition.


Larry   October 1st, 2009 11:41 pm ET

CNN really should alert the FBI about the poster named 'Matt'. His comments are quite disburbing, especially since he has stated that he is an educator of children (2nd grade, 8 year old children, roughly). This is a very alarming situation and I believe that CNN has a responsibility to notify the proper authorities so that they can put this so called 'man' under surveillance and investigate him to really find out if he truly is the scumbag as he seems to indicate that he is in his post.

CNN – Please do the right thing!!


Robert   October 1st, 2009 11:42 pm ET

I have disagreed many times with this commentator and others at CNN. But in this case I could not possibly agree more. Thank you Mr. Martin for having the gumption to speak the truth and thank you CNN for finally printing something that doesn't pander to the kooky Hollywood mentality. No matter what artistic talents he may have, Polanski deserves to be in jail. Period.


SNYC   October 1st, 2009 11:42 pm ET

Ok, the problem I have with this is everyone is Hollywood is framing this like it's STILL the 1970's, while the rest of the world is looking at this as a crime committed in present day. What you have here is a girl that had the maturity of Jodie Foster in "Taxi Driver" over at director's house (by permission of her mother no less), dealing with a damaged man who only saw a pretty young woman - not a number. They used some drugs, got into a hot tub and things happened.

What he did is reprehensible. While the victim would like to put it behind her, (and I might be inclined to support that, given the media scrutiny she's had to deal with for the past 30 years), what bothers me most about this is that Polansky doesn't seem even the least bit chagrined by his actions, nor has he taken responsibility for them. Trying to justify this by saying he himself is a victim, is like trying to say a serial killer isn't guilty just because his father beat and molested him as a child.


Realist   October 1st, 2009 11:43 pm ET

Amen. All that needs to be said.


Anaja   October 1st, 2009 11:44 pm ET

I couldn't put it better!


Pierce   October 1st, 2009 11:44 pm ET

Debra Winger? Who the heck is Debra Winger? Was she somebody from the last century.

As for Woody Allen, he should know a thing or two about a May- December romance. Except they didn't get around to prosecuting that in New York Family Court.

Sigh.


Blake Hall   October 1st, 2009 11:44 pm ET

I used to say that I never agreed with Roland. This article won't let me say that any more. He is 100% correct. But Roland, this is but one example of how "hollywood" and the left are OUT of their minds.


Ken   October 1st, 2009 11:45 pm ET

If anyone needed any more proof that Hollywood is morally bankrupt, well here it is. Even the best writers in Hollywood could not have come up with a scene where Woody Allen is complaining about how poor Polanski is being persucuted. That's right, you have one man who slept with his step-daughter and then leaves his wife to marry the step-daughter, complaining tha a pedophile who got a 13 year old drunk and then raped her is being persucuted. Amazing. What's even worse is these people are all so sick, they cannot see how wrong this all is. Truly a group of pathic individuals who have no true understanding of life.


Asher Yosef   October 1st, 2009 11:45 pm ET

Polanski didn't rape anyone.
He had sex with an underage girl. The rest is a lie.

How come you none of you guys remember Michael Jackson? He was a known pedophile, who had sex with many boys. But you like him, and you sanctified him! Why?


George B   October 1st, 2009 11:45 pm ET

Unfortunately we're judging a fourty year old crime by today's standards. Just as MADD has effectively changed the public's opinion of drunken driving (forty years ago it was a minor indiscretion to "fall asleep at the wheel" and wreck your car – today you're an incorrigible alcoholic with no regard for public safety) Forty years ago Roman was reckless enough to have sex with a girl that looked and acted older (but probably still too young). Society in those days didn't have the heightened "protect the precious children from the big bad monsters!!!!" mentality that we do today. The prosecutor was representing the values of the people when he agreed to a 90 day sentence as proper punishment for the transgression. No District Attorney today would ever consider a plea deal like that for such a crime. Remember, "sexual predator" wasn't even in the vernacular at the time and men who "fell prey to Lolitas" weren't considered pariahs.

I'm not saying there wasn't a crime and I'm not saying there shouldn't be punishment. What I am asking is that you consider that our sensibilities about sexual exploitation of minors was very different back then. If there had been a stronger taboo, perhaps Roman Polanski wouldn't have had sex with a young girl – he might have been inhibited by society's values and wouldn't be the reprehensible monster people are making him out to be. (Has he ever preyed on young women since that event? Practically all true sex offenders are unable to curb their lusts even with heavy counseling and threat of serious penalty)

This story is really about a man who fled when he heard that a fame-seeking judge might go back on a plea agreement. I suspect if the judge had said "fine – ninety days, time served" Roman would have complied with the court's wishes. This story is not about condoning child abuse, it never was.


indiana   October 1st, 2009 11:46 pm ET

Thank you for such a clear commentary on the situation. This is not just about the poor girl he raped many years ago. If he is allowed off – what does this say about how we as a country will stand and protect the young girls and women in our country today. Lets not sell our daughters for a couple of movies.


Lorenzo   October 1st, 2009 11:46 pm ET

Oh, c'mon, this was the '70s. He didn't know or care how old the girl was. Things were different then. People did not think of sex or rape the way they do today. It was a free-wheelin', pill-poppin' society, where Hollywood parties could lead to anything with anyone.

Moreoever, I wonder what Roland Martin would write if the man were black. Would he somehow be forgiven? No, of course not.


Sharon   October 1st, 2009 11:46 pm ET

I have never, ever written a comment to an internet editorial but this is about the best written, spot on, editorial that I have read. Hollywood is not the place that one should turn to for moral guidance.

It will be very interesting to see how many of these Hollywood types waffle and backpedal when people speak out about the stupidity of their support for an admitted criminal.

Face the music time.


Robert Rodriguez   October 1st, 2009 11:46 pm ET

Man, once his new masterpiece comes out Polanski will be able to rape 8 year olds no problemoooooo.


Dawn   October 1st, 2009 11:48 pm ET

Hi Roland,

I love listening to you on CNN! I look forward to hearing you no matter which show you are on.

I agree with everything you just said. I am very disappointed at how Hollywood is willing to excuse this rapist for his act because he is such a talented director. If he is excused that could also set presedent for future rapists. Why not them if he can get off. Everyone is forgetting that a crime was committed and he needs to pay for that crime.

Having said that, I think everyone is taking Whoopi's comments out of context. When she said it wasn't "rape rape" she did not mean it the way everyone is taking it. I think, to protect the show from any liabilities, she was being very careful that The View communicated that Polanski was not found guilty of rape, but of the lesser charge. Granted we all (Whoopi) included all know that its still rape, but the law is law and they said something else. She was trying to make that difference with the law only. I saw The View that day and remember thinking she's going to get slack over that statement – but I also know that the way everyone is taking it isn't the way she meant it. And if someone knows anything about Whoopi then they'd know that she wasn't trying to diminish what had happened to the 13 year old.

Look forward to seeing you tomorrow Roland!


David Wiseman   October 1st, 2009 11:48 pm ET

Finally, someone is championing the sentiments of the people! What has been said by the rich and famous regarding Polanski is utterly appalling! Somehow, should someone claim "well he thought the judge was going to give him 100 years," then they are excused for fleeing sentencing?? If he were to get 100 years then he must have deserved it, because you know as well as I do, he has the best attorneys money can buy, then and NOW! The list of those whom signed the petition should be taken and posted everywhere as a list of those whom are not concerned about a 40yr old having sex with a 13yr old child. Martin, I dont know if you are taking this stance because you should be, or because it is becoming popular but either way it needs to be taken. I do have to say however, once again you took at easy on Goldberg, and I have to wonder why? Hmm, what is different about Ms. Goldberg from every other person you mentioned... hmmmmm. To say she lost her senses is drastically underestimating the statement and sentiments expressed.


carly   October 1st, 2009 11:48 pm ET

AMEN!

These "supportive" members of Holly wood are so depraved, they don't even know how sick they are. So you can molest children and its OK if you happened to be talented? Whoopi is a total idiot on this – what is "rape-rape"? A thirteen year old cannot give legal consent, and in this case, we didn't even have consent. It was rape, plain and simple, and brutal! This was likely her first experience, and look what it was! An old man drugging her and forcing himself on her every way he wanted. This must have gone on for hours, pure torture. How she has managed to recovery, we will never know. I certainly understand why she doesn't want to relive it with a trial, but that doesn't change the fact that he raped her and needs to pay for his crime. And the whining over his inability to get his award, and not being able to travel freely. We are supposed to feel sorry for that? What about the way she has had to suffer all these years?


John1234   October 1st, 2009 11:48 pm ET

Matt the 2nd Grade Teacher
You are an idiot
No wonder many children here in the US graduate and cannot read


Sabine   October 1st, 2009 11:48 pm ET

really don't care if he is famous or not. Just think if it would have been your daughter. How would you feel then?


Martha   October 1st, 2009 11:49 pm ET

Rape is rape. You do the crime, you do the time! I am all for boycotting those Hollywood idiots who are standing up for a man that raped a 13 year old girl. Polanski should spend the rest of his life in jail!!


Dave   October 1st, 2009 11:50 pm ET

Mr. Martin, I have rarely agreed with you on some of your positions, but today I'm proud to side with you on this. I have a 13 year old daughter, and if Roman Polanski or ANY man did these types of things to her, I shudder to think what I would do. No justice has been served in this case....unless you call a lifestyle of champagne and caviar justice.


cory   October 1st, 2009 11:50 pm ET

right on roland – i agree completly


Craig   October 1st, 2009 11:51 pm ET

Thank you so much for this article. As one who is currently studying film at college, I have grown to admire the works of Roman Polanski. However, I cannot stand for what he has done, and I think it is ridiculous that so many celebrities are defending Polanski. Sure, Polanski has had a rough life, and yes, art may be a way of coping. But art can't redeem him–enough with this "if you're famous enough....if you wait long enough...if you're rich enough...you can get away with it"


DC   October 1st, 2009 11:51 pm ET

Hollywood is aparently so "tolerant" nowadays that they have embraced rape as politically correct, wow.


Bryan   October 1st, 2009 11:51 pm ET

just another case of liberal elites not understanding why we don't understand that they are "more Equel" then the morons who make them rich and famous.

Why isnt anyone calling for caps on hollywood compensation?


Rose   October 1st, 2009 11:51 pm ET

So reading through these blogs, I keep seeing people bring up (rightly so) that the victim wants the charges dropped and that the needs of the victim should be the issue here. I've been wondering why this really didn't strike me as very important when clearly, it should really tug at your heartstrings. I believe that we should do all that we can for the victim and support our programs for victim advocacy. But I think for me and many others, there is an issue even bigger than the agony and pain of the victim. It is right and wrong and the implications of letting such a heinous act go unpunished. Many young men were humiliated and ostracized when details of sexual abuse by clergy became public. I feel horrible for them. I know not all of the victims stepped into the light willingly. But because they did, we became aware of a horrible problem. Whether or not he was "set-up" by the mom or whether he paid out a huge settlement....does it really matter? Did he have sex with a 13 year old girl. Yes. Did he sodomize a 13 year old girl? Yes. I understand he was "double-crossed" by a prideful judge. Sorry you didn't get the posh sentence you were promised but no one should be above the law.


Lynn   October 1st, 2009 11:51 pm ET

The point being...Polanski admitted guilt to sex with a minor.
He escaped the country for sentencing. Yes he is a coward for that, but he did admit guilt.

I wonder how many young girls in Hollywood in the 70's put themselves into that position. She wanted to be a starlet and there were certain things you had to do in the 70's to get there. She didn't announce her age and by witnesses accounts didn't look 13 either.


tim   October 1st, 2009 11:51 pm ET

i don't think i've ever agreed with a single thing roland martin has ever said . . . until now. Nice work roland. It amazes me how few national news heads have said anything negative about these Hollywood idiots who continue to defend a rapist.


JM   October 1st, 2009 11:51 pm ET

Roland, you have said – very well – what I believe the majority of people think. Thank you. Hollywood is a sick little fishbowl and not remotely representative of the rest of us.


Not a Rapist   October 1st, 2009 11:51 pm ET

I think the frothing mob here will be very disappointed once Polanski goes before the judge in LA. The case most likely will be dismissed soon or probation (as originally recommended by the psychiatric board) will be sentenced. Not very satisfying for those who get off on some good ole-time vengeance.

If only the U.S. showed as much concern about the welfare of children before they raped Iraq because it 'felt good'. A 'Christian' Nation indeed.

Now back to the regularly scheduled bloodlust.


Trish Best   October 1st, 2009 11:51 pm ET

Woody Allen thinks he's great when in fact he's no better for betraying and manipulating the trust of a child as well. If Polanski goes free, it is truly a sign of the fall of America as we know it, for a country that has no morality cannot be a global leader. Money and fame has corrupted the minds of those aritsts who believe they are GODS!


A   October 1st, 2009 11:51 pm ET

Agreed! Yet Roland's reference to being Christian ("As a Christian") seems in poor taste. Rape is not condoned in Judaism either.


Juanita   October 1st, 2009 11:51 pm ET

I totally agree! I think it's digusting that people are backing this man who committed such a terrible act. And what the heck is "rape-rape"?? Rape is rape – there is no sort of...good grief! Everyone backing this man should think carefully about the sort of behaviour they are supporting....


andrew reynolds   October 1st, 2009 11:53 pm ET

It seems to me that the case has impressive similarity to those of Michael Jackson where criminal parents forced their children to go to Neverland and sleep with that guy to obtaining later millions on settlements.
Here the situation seems the same:Polanski trapped by a rapacious mother and a clever child.

And in my opinion that's why that girl now a 45 years old lady is insisting for forgetting her rapist feeling that she (and he) got enough.
Too bad that she doesn't clearly say that.

Said that Polanski, even if trapped, did it. So let's chain him.
And I was also very upset that Jackson didn't go to prison.

But why in years that Polanski was spending months is his house in Switzerland, nobody arrested him? Or when he was traveling around Europe? As far as we know the extradition with US is active in Germany, Italy, Austria and so on...
You should admit that all this sound kind of bizarre and blurry.
Unfortunately in our country the judiciary system is based on election of the system's members.
And to get exposure and reelection very often the prosecutors, DA and judges are acting in a discussible way.
So did the first judge in the case and so in my opinion is doing the DA now.
They could have trapped and extradited Polanski millions of time...
Somebody is using this to get some personal advantage, I have no doubts about it.

In this case I see Polanski becoming from a rapist and predator a victim of a vicious judiciary system.
He's famous, he's guilty and he's available: let's use him.
Reverting your question: I'm just wondering if he was an unknown sex offender escaped abroad... probably no DA would have spent time in something not rewarding as chasing a celebrity.


Raymond (Austin, TX)   October 1st, 2009 11:53 pm ET

For those who think it should be dropped simply because the victim settled and considers everything is in the past, you are confusing a civil matter with a criminal matter. Apparently some of you think you should be able to get away with anything as long as you have enough hush money.

I'm also amazed how the courts are being portrayed as insensitive by causing the victim to re-live her pain over and over. If Polanski had not fled and continued to evade answering for his crime, this would have been settled decades ago and he would be rotting in jail and labelled as a sex offender.


JessSayin   October 1st, 2009 11:53 pm ET

Roland, Once again you've hit the nail on the proverbial head. You just put into words what many of us are feeling and wish the actors up in Dreamland, CA. would feel...if they can feel at all.


Al S.   October 1st, 2009 11:53 pm ET

Thank goodness for all of the overwhelming support for Martins view. Bloggers such as Matt are extremely narrow-minded to even attempt to put the "blame" on a 13 year old victim. Matt...do us all a favor and get out of teaching. Clearly our children are in the wrong hands if you are in the classroom!


Mike   October 1st, 2009 11:53 pm ET

Roland,

This is the first decent article you have ever written. Congratulations!
The Polanski story is a sad one and what makes it so much worse is that he has so much support from his liberal friends who decide to leave their morals behind. Luckily France has dropped support for him saying nobody is above the law which means it is dark and dreary for him from here on out.


Rob   October 1st, 2009 11:54 pm ET

Here's a list of all petition signers: http://www.sacd.fr/Tous-les-signataires-de-la-petition-pour-Roman-Polanski-All-signing-parties.1341.0.html


Kristin   October 1st, 2009 11:54 pm ET

Yeah. I agree. Let the bankrupt state of California pay millions to bring a man who can't set foot in America thus not in this society, put him on trial, and then spend hundreds of thousands of dollars separating him from society again. Makes lots of sense to me, especially since that money could be used to focus on prosecuting dangerous people on the street! What is the purpose of jail? Deterrence or rehabilitation? Give me a break, nothing at all will be gained from prosecuting Polanksi. There happens to be a huge gray area in this case. The victim sought justice through civil court, and received $$$. She doesn't want him prosecuted. Drop it, already, and focus on improving Los Angeles as it is now.


Kevin   October 1st, 2009 11:54 pm ET

I totally agree with Mr. Martin. I was discouraged and demoralized to read the comments of those who would support a criminal simply because he is a well-known public figure. Mr. Martin's reversal of story with a hypothetical example of a famous Hollywood child actor is the perfect way to put this event in the proper context. Shame on those whose arrogance outweighs their moral character, and Bravo to those like Mr. Martin who actively defend what is right.


Dave   October 1st, 2009 11:55 pm ET

Well, Mr. Martin, I agree with you. I don't know what was going on in this man's mind when he scarred this poor girl for life. I felt bad for him for the way he lost his wife and child, and perhaps even 10 years later his judgement was impaired, but simply doesn't excuse running away. That's the act of a coward. He made a mistake, and he needs to pay for it. Period, the end.

This man's avoidance of justice has hurt his victim more than the rape itself because its followed her, her entire life. How horrid, and unforgivable.


Grace   October 1st, 2009 11:55 pm ET

I completely agree. As a victim of rape, I can honestly say that there is nothing harder than watching your attacker enjoy freedom. This man deserves to be punished, famous or not.


Seamus   October 1st, 2009 11:55 pm ET

While Polanski is inexculpable for what he did, why is a tax-funded public organ expending such a huge amount of resources for something that happened more than 30 years ago from which the direct victim has already received full closure in pursuit of a result that will not not benefit anybody except tabloid magazines?


qofe   October 1st, 2009 11:55 pm ET

Whoopi Goldberg hasn't been spot on about any issue in years. From her crossing the picket line during the writers strike, to her criticism of Jennifer Love-Hewitt’s weight. She has repeatedly shown herself to speak without any forethought. This, though far more shocking, is no exception.

The whole thing is asinine. Polanski raped a child, he should be in prison for the rest of his life.


MaryMac   October 1st, 2009 11:55 pm ET

The victim is asked that this all be droppd...so why hasn't it? Every person with an opinion is going on and on about the 13 year old girl...who is now an adult with a family...who has asked, demanded, and pleaded that this case be DROPPED...and all people can think about right now is Polanski being wronged (boo-fricken-hoo) and the definition of "rape" Shame on every one of you for NOT listening to the victim.


Dawn   October 1st, 2009 11:55 pm ET

I am so disgusted by the statements by the Hollywood community about this case. These are people that I truly respected, but am just horrified by their condoning the rape of a 13-year old girl – well as long as it is done by "one of their own".

And you missed one thing on your comparison to a young actress being raped. Not only would they be up and arms, they would be rushing to portray her story on the screen, and giving themselves a pat of the back for being so morally upstanding.


william russell   October 1st, 2009 11:55 pm ET

i guess it's ok in france to have sex with children eh?


Jen   October 1st, 2009 11:56 pm ET

Samantha Gailey is not the only victim. She may want the case dropped, but it's not just about her. Other victims include the countless number of adolescent girls who are assaulted every day because perpetrators still believe they'll get away with it. Victims include their parents, who didn't know, or know how, to protect them. Victims include all young girls who continue to be sexualized by some film and television media (although not all), rather than being allowed to grow up in security and happiness. Victims include those whose perpetrators still carry the smug narcissism that allows lives to be destroyed. Adolescent victims of sexual abuse have higher rates of early pregnancy, homelessness, drug and alcohol abuse, and dropping out of school. That's making America the victim too... because we all pay for the cost to society. Mr. Polanski left because he thought he was above the law, and he thought his sexual gratification was more important than a young girl's vulnerability. I don't know, and never will, how some people look at a child's sweet face and want to harm, when most of us take such joy in their beauty and want to protect, to guide, to cherish. But they do. Mr. Polanski'ss movies aren't "great," they're just cinematic... and often about the sexuality of young girls or about violence. I've known people who've survived the murder of a loved one, as Mr. Polansk has; but I can honestly say I can't name any that viewed it as a ticket to sodomizing a child. If he wants to redeem himself, then he needs to stand trial, he needs to confess, he needs to rehabilitate, and he needs to do his time.


MaryMac   October 1st, 2009 11:57 pm ET

BTW, this whole trial has NOTHING to do with Hollywood being the business that it is. The public believes this for some reason...if Polanski worked at Sears, the public would go on abotu how rotten Sears is. Thank God the man didn't work for Disney or we'd NEVER hear the end of this.


Edward   October 1st, 2009 11:57 pm ET

I do agree with what Roland had to say 100%. But what I don't like is the few people that have come over here to now turn this into a racist issue. Why does a jew get off for doing this? Of if this were a black person he would be hung. Why can't people just stick with the story instead of spouting off their personal beliefs?


adela vega   October 1st, 2009 11:57 pm ET

Totally agree with the article, rape is rape I don't care who did it. what makes this idiots think that this "Rat" did not commit any more rapes?


Towan   October 1st, 2009 11:58 pm ET

Matt and SMH: You are idiots!! The girl was 13 and I don't really think she could give consent when she was drugged up. Or did you just gloss over that part? What he did was illegal and he should go to jail like any other pedophile and I don't give a damn how many great movies he's made.


richard k   October 1st, 2009 11:58 pm ET

Justice must be served. For someone who has admitted guilt by pleading guilty, he has no other option but to step forward and submit to the verdict of the court. As for those in "Hollyweird" who plead his case and think he should be set free, they should be willing to step forward and be willing to serve his sentence as determined by the court of jurisdiction in this case. Nothing else is acceptable. All of the Hollyweird IDIOTS who plead his case should be willing to step forward and take his place before the court, and be willing to serve the sentence meted down by the court. As none of them have stated their willingness to do this, then they should all STUT UP and go back to their day jobs of making entertainment for the masses, take their paycheck, and them just shut up and go away. Nothing else is acceptable to those of us who have to be responsible for our actions, and be willing to accept the judgement of our peers for our actions as adults in a democratic society. I have made note of those in Hollywood who support Polanski in this matter and will no longer buy tickets to the movies they make, nor will I watch these movies when they are released on dvds.


bob   October 1st, 2009 11:58 pm ET

wow! woody allen is supporting him? what a surprise. if you dont believe this man needs to go to jail, you have no heart.


trinity   October 1st, 2009 11:58 pm ET

I thought I had been living in an alternate universe as I read some of the comments Mr. Polanski's supporters have made.

The rape of a child is still the rape of a child.

It doesn't matter how many years have passed, how talented the perpetrator is, or what kind of horrors the perpetrator endured in his life prior to the crime. Nor does it matter that the victim has chosen to forgive the criminal.

What matter is that a crime was commited and the guilty party fled.

I can't wrap my mind around the fact that people are supporting a child rapist. The LA Times quotes Harvey Weinstein as saying "whatever you think of the so-called crime, Polanski has served his time."

I personally would support a boycott of all works from any individual who supports Mr. Polanski.


Terry   October 1st, 2009 11:58 pm ET

Finally! Someone speaking out for the majority who agree that Polanski should be brought back to the United States for his day in court. Hollywood is full of elitists who feel they are above the law. Why do we worship these people? Their lives are so far outside the realm of normalcy, why do we allow them to speak for the masses.

While I understand the victim's desire to get passed all this, Polanski is the one who has dragged this out for years. I'm sure she was paid a hefty sum through her civil suit and there may be a requirement as part of the settlement that she request the charges be dropped.

It is disgusting that anyone is blaming the victim, a 13 year old girl, for this crime or putting Polanski on a pedestal so that he is above the law and does not have to be held accountable for his admitted crime.

Thank you, Roland, for getting this ball rolling. I hope it has the momentum to get louder and louder so that it drowns out the cries of the Hollywood crazies who do not represent the majority of Americans.


Ronn   October 1st, 2009 11:59 pm ET

It is really sad isn't it? Even sadder is the fact these folks are making movies the younger generation is watching....


Mike   October 1st, 2009 11:59 pm ET

Polanski is navel lint and should be prosecuted; he does not deserve a pass on rape or sex with a 13-year-old. That being said, Roland, who cares if you're a Christian? It has nothing to do with this. Save your prayers and hubris for your friends and church. If you feel the need to testify, take it to the religion page.


overbored   October 1st, 2009 11:59 pm ET

I don't feel as though I'm being "unforgiving" in condemning Polanski. He deserves to be prosecuted even after the victim forgave him and the decades passed by.

Were he truly sorry for what he did he would not have fled the country and left the disposition of his case in limbo. He would have seen to it that his punishment was completely behind him before moving on.

This is not even close to being like other high-profile rape cases like Kobe Bryant's. The suspect was not only found guilty, he escaped part of his punishment! There was never any remorse, and therefore he deserves to pay the full price.


Joelle P.   October 1st, 2009 11:59 pm ET

To Matt (8:13 p.m.) – As a first grade teacher speaking to you, a supposedly "second grade teacher", you are pig and you disgust me.

You state "children do lie." As a mother, an educator, and from the experience of being a child once upon a time, yes, children can and do lie. But why not be extra cautious and give the child the benefit of the doubt when they cry rape?

Do you turn your head away in disgust and disdain when any of your 7 or 8 year old students (male or female) come to you and say that they are lying when they confide that their parents or neighbors molest or rape them?!

Do you scoff if one of your students mention that they were touched inappropriately when discussing the "Good Touch, Bad Touch" Strange Danger lessons? I would HATE to have my child or any child in your class. You seriously need to let your principal know that those are your views on sexual harassment because as you know, victims are in every grade level and age nowadays.

Not only are you violating their trust as their teacher, you just invalidated their right to speak out against those that hurt them – values we teach in our classroom. If you are serious, then you are obviously in the wrong profession – you need to be in Hollywood alongside such famous names supporting this monster.


Pinda Kaas   October 2nd, 2009 12:00 am ET

This is SCARY! We have become stupid cattle with a mob mentality.


CHUMP   October 2nd, 2009 12:00 am ET

GREAT ARTICLE. THESE PEOPLE WHO DEFEND HIM ARE POMPOUS FOOLS AND SHOWING WHAT LOSERS THET ALL ARE. WOODY ALLEN?! BIGGEST LOSER IF THERE EVER WAS ONE.
WOOPI GOLBERG EXPLAINING TO US WHAT REALLY HAPPENED? WAS SHE THERE?. SHE WAS PROBABLY STILL CLEANING HOTEL ROOMS.
BUT - I HAVE NEWS FOR ALL YOU WHO THINK HE'S GOING TO BE PUT AWAY AND LOCKED UP FOREVER.
HE WILL PROBABLY GET TIME SERVED WHICH WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PEOPLE WHO EVALUATED HIM AND WOULD HAVE BEEN THE ORIGINAL SENTENCE THAT HE AGREED ON BEFORE HE FLED. HE WILL PROBABLY SPEND MORE TIME IN THE ZURICH JAIL THAN AN AMERICAN JAIL SO HIS BEST BET IS TO MAN UP AND WAIVE THE EXTRADITION. IM SURE ALL THE GREEDY LAWYERS WON'T TELL HIM THAT PART.
HE FLED BECAUSE THE JUDGE WAS GOING TO SEND HIM BACK TO JAIL AND THEN DEPORT HIM! WHY WOULD HE GO TO JAIL AND THEN BE DEPORTED? SO HE FLED. DEPORTED HIMSELF.
SO WHEN HE COMES BACK AND BASICALLY GETS TIME SERVED AND PROBATION. HE WILL THEN FURTHER REALIZE WHAT AN IDIOT HE IS. HE SHOLD HAVE RESOLVED THIS YEARS AGO.


Yolanda   October 2nd, 2009 12:00 am ET

amen to this writer.


Margaret   October 2nd, 2009 12:00 am ET

I am so happy to have read this article and realize from it and most of the responses it received that people out there see this the way I do. "Hollywood's" reaction makes me sick. Please all remember though that Woody Allen had sex with his partners adopted teenage daughter and later married her. I guess that's why he doesn't have a problem with this. I'd also like to say I saw a response about this Roman Polanski incident from Kirstie Alley, one of the few so far in Hollywood that obviously has a heart, a conscience and sense. Thank you Kirstie. And thank you Roland for this article, it was much needed.
I was going to skip my response to the "Matt" response, but being a mother I decided to speak out. I am so sick of hearing so called teachers talk about "their kids" acting as if they really care ( and yes some of them really do) it's people like this Matt that I'm talking about here. Lumping all kids together and saying they lie (even after this man confessed) is not just ridiculous its also cruel. Victims stay silent because they fear this exact response that you gave, shame on you. Someone with your bias should not be teaching children. Do everyone a favor and find a profession you can be useful in rather than detrimental.


TJ   October 2nd, 2009 12:00 am ET

Thank you Roland. I have sat back with disbelief over the last several days and watched the various celebrities throw their support in Polanski's camp. It's incomprehensible to me how, what i had once thought were intelligent people, could even begin to justify their positions. I would ask one question, if it was their daughter or relative where would they stand?


Scott   October 2nd, 2009 12:01 am ET

Just as an earlier poster said, I am often at odds with Mr. Martin's political views - however, I find it difficult to understand how ANY person could disagree with this powerful post.

There are - probably more frequently than we would like to admit - cases where the victim is perfectly willing to see the charges against her rapist dismissed.

Yet, we as a society have made the wise and reasoned decision that it cannot be that simple.

If we provide a victim the authority to choose whether or not a case goes to trial, future targets of rapists would undoubtably face great intimidation from their assailants, as the criminal would seek to go unpunished.

What may be preferred and expedient for the victim can become hugely detrimental to our society as a whole. Therefore, the argument that the victim wants Mr. Polanski to be released is of no consequence.

To take the argument of Woody Allen and Debra Winger to the extreme - if one's contribution to the arts provides the grounds for exoneration, let's not forget the author of a book, who later commissioned several films by esteemed directors - and, as a world leader was a great lover of architecture and encouraged the design and building of magnificent monuments.

From your perspective, Mr. Allen and Ms. Winger...does that make the actions of Hitler worthy of reconsideration?


Sonia   October 2nd, 2009 12:01 am ET

This is right on Roland!! I can not believe that this guy has escaped justice for so many years and now some people would expect him to be free for what he did?! Are they out of their mind? Their reaction is disgusting!!! I understand that it is difficult for the victim to have her story played out again all over the news, but I think that she has no choice to let it be played out; otherwise justice would not be the same for everyone.


Jake   October 2nd, 2009 12:01 am ET

Thank you Roland. You've expressed what so many of us want to, but don't have the audience.


louie   October 2nd, 2009 12:01 am ET

Roland you are so right, BUT!!! That is not reality. We live in a society that favors the wealthy and the famous. You see it every day in the news. These barbaric acts take place almost daily without shame and because of status, fame or wealth, it is not dealt with with true justice.

I posted a blog not too long ago where I said, If Polanski were African American or Spanish!!!. My friend, the story ending would surely have been much different. I do agree!

So the moral of the story is this. You can run but you can't hide. You will stand before Our Lord God one day.!!! I can just see him explaining to God, that he;s a famous producer and that he was lied to by the Judge and he has suffered great emotional duress during this time.

That fact is that he "will" pay for his transgressions. We just won't have the opportunity to see it here on earth.

So Roland, don't be concerened too much about earthly justice. This case of Eternal Judgement Vs Polanski has already been placed on the docket. Actually, sentence has already been passed. :) :):).

Good night my friend.


DJ   October 2nd, 2009 12:01 am ET

So let me get this straight. Some of you posting here and obviously these Hollywood elites believe that; since Mr. Polanski makes great ART and other MASTERPIECES of creativity and human expression, he is somehow above the fray of the law? Even though he admitted the crime, administered drugs to a minor, And fled the country, thereby becoming a fugitive.

Oh I get it now...he's from hollywood right? So somehow being from Hollywood makes one above and beyond us common NON-artist? And Woody Allen! Didn't Good Ol Woody have his own issues with little girls? Namely his current wife, who was once his adopted daughter? America needs to boycott the Polansk supporters AND those who support them i.e. advertisers enough is enough.


Flabbergasted   October 2nd, 2009 12:01 am ET

To Matt who posted "A mother lets her 13yr old child go to a famous Hollywood Directors home….and he is to blame? You people need to grow up. The man is a masterpiece in the making. How many times has a a 13yr old lied? I am a 2nd grade school teacher and children lie all the time….Oh, by the way how many millions did she receive? Hmm….seems funny, she does not want to bring this up anymore….hmm, maybe she lied. Get your facts before you blog."

Are you serious? You can't be serious. No person is THAT clueless.

The 13 year old lied so Polanski plead GUILTY? Wow that makes sense.

He plead GUILTY... as in he admitted GUILT. By definition he is GUILTY of the crime. A man who pleads GUILTY to a crime and is sentenced for this crime doesn't get to choose not to serve his punishment.

So by your reasoning... Polanski is talented and the situation to drug and rape a 13 year old girl presented itself... Therefore Polanski is not responsible because talented people are not to be held responsible for their actions.

Wow. There's no way you can actually think like that and be a functioning human being.

On a side-note, you may want to check your own facts before you blog. It was not at Polanski's house, it was a Jack Nicholson's house.


Rebecca   October 2nd, 2009 12:02 am ET

Thank you Roland, well written.


cece   October 2nd, 2009 12:03 am ET

Thank you for speaking the truth , the whole bunch of them are disgusting ! Wood Allen as a moral authority , I rest my case . a couple of thoughts came to mind are they all in a club , and next time you want to Rape somebody and want to get away with it just tell them that you are a film director. Next time whoopi Goldberg gets raped ask her if it is rape-rape or pretending rape ,I was revolted by that remark , I am wondering why nobody spoke up for Michael Jackson even though he was cleared of any wrongdoing , is it because he was black and not a jew. The law is the law for you me and Polanski.


cathryn   October 2nd, 2009 12:03 am ET

Absolutely I agree with you. Steve Lopez of the Los Angeles Times also wrote the details of what went on that day between Polanski and his victim. I can't believe he has been free this long. I hope he gets some jail time.!!!!!!!!! And "not rape-rape" Worse!!!!!! he sodomized her! Geeze Whoopi, what are you thinking.


Preston   October 2nd, 2009 12:03 am ET

This is not really a debate about whether or not his actions were morally despicable. They were. Sexually taking advantage of a thirteen year old girl is wrong no matter what morality you subscribe to.

This is a debate about retributive justice vs. rehabilitative justice. It's easy to throw around emotionally charged words like "sick", "disgusting", "evil", whatever, and jumping on the "lets-burn-him-at-the-stake" bandwagon, but do any of you ever stop to ask yourselves what your purpose is?

Is he still a threat to society? No. Does his victim want this case to be reopened? No, she said she wants it dropped and that the media attention is invasive. Is it a deterrent to future rapists? You could argue it, but people who do these things generally don't consider the consequences of their actions anyway. Is Roman Polanski going to go around raping other girls if we don't imprison him? No. Is it cost effective? No, we have an already overcrowded prison system. Does it make sense to make this into an international spectacle? No, not at all.

Why is it one then? Because people want a witch to burn. They want to rally around being morally superior to someone. Most of the comments I have read are like people throwing fruit from a crowd at a man about to be hanged, who were not personally affected by the crime at all, and perhaps don't even know the details.

Retribution is not justice. The function of government-enforced justice is to ensure the protection of its people, and to remove threats from society through incarceration or deterrent. It is NOT to dish out punishment on purely moral grounds. Leave that to God, or to the victim, or the friends and family of the victim. Is Roman Polanski sick? Maybe. Is he a threat to U.S. society? No. Why can't we leave it alone?

Ask yourself if you're just looking for a witch to burn, learn to think for yourself, and incorporate a healthy dose of Utilitarianism into your philosophy. And get on with your own life.


Johann   October 2nd, 2009 12:04 am ET

Polanski definitely deserves punishment and certainly prison time. The problem I have with Americans is that there is no room for repentance. Mr. Martin calls himself a Christian yet already acts as the judge and commits Polanski to 100 years of jail time. For starters, most European countries find that rediculous. 20 years max. Mr. Martin, maybe God should put you in Hell for 1 million years for all the sins you've done to Him. Sure, He forgave you those sins but using your argument, you still should be serving time in Hell. How nice it is as "Christians" to expect the Grace of God but we are not willing to give it to others. Jesus gave a parable about that. It was about the man whose great debt was forgiven yet turned around and had his fellow man thrown in jail for a meager outstanding debt. The US justice system is pathetic and although Polanksi does deserve some degree of punishment, I can understand why he fled it. America is one of the most unrepentent countries that have ever existed on the face of this earth. Period.


~Tt   October 2nd, 2009 12:04 am ET

Right on Roland! I've been waiting for someone to say it!

And by the way, who listens to Woody Allen anyways? He married his daughter for God's sake!!

I hope Polanski spends the rest of his days behind bars.


Isaac Grobe   October 2nd, 2009 12:04 am ET

I couldn't agree more with Mr Martin. Bottom line is that he plead guilty to drugging and raping a child. To have all of these actors rally behind a rapist, albeit a talented one, is still rallying behind a rapist. How is rape not really rape? I'm Jewish and the Holocaust is no excuse for taking advantage of a minor. On another note, I do not feel that murderers who are dying should be released from prison on compasion. If the people that they killed didn't die in peace and dignity, why should they get to.


Spot On   October 2nd, 2009 12:05 am ET

Roland,

An article I can agree with you on – You've nailed it on this one – I am proud of you to take this stand albeit maybe not a popular one in the inner circle around Hollywood. I am SHOCKED Whoopi said what she did. Sick...

Keep up the good work,

Spot On


Ken   October 2nd, 2009 12:05 am ET

Samantha Gailey's testimony transcript is available on the Internet.

This was a sworn deposition before the court.

She says that she felt uncomfortable with Polanski the entire time she was with him, that he plied her with alcohol, drugged her with part of a qualuud, inserted his penis into her vagina, asked if she was on the pill, when she said no, turned her over, and put his penis in her anus.

She said "No, stop it, please..." multiple times.

Anal rape of a 13 year old is more than a 'mere technicality'. And Whoopie, it most definitely is 'rape-rape'.

I know, someone can make a movie about it! Tastefully done, of course, like they did with Dakota Fanning playing the victim of an adult rapist. How about we get Michael Moore to direct?


Shafiqul   October 2nd, 2009 12:05 am ET

Can you imagine he isn’t Muslim, otherwise Republican will have a big foot?


John Robertson   October 2nd, 2009 12:05 am ET

All these comment from no nothings

She did not look like a 13 year old.. Even Huston said she could of been 21 in the way she looked.. The judge was a publicity hound.. read the transripts and what happened after the trial..

He didn't know he was 13.. I wouldn't trust the US system either..
Your system sucks.. If you black.. you get convicted.. How many executions of innocents?? Common stick around for that?


Brian   October 2nd, 2009 12:05 am ET

Dear Mr. Martin – I usually disagree with some of your opinions, but your opinion here is an opinion that virtually all of us can – and should – agree on. Insane doesn't even begin to describe the thinking of Hollywood.


Shelly   October 2nd, 2009 12:06 am ET

"LOL" at Woody Allen standing by his side. Christ, who's next? R Kelly?


Elizabeth   October 2nd, 2009 12:06 am ET

This guy deserves to go to jail, I don't care WHO he is, what hardships he has had to deal with in his life, or how talented he is. He raped that girl, admitted to it and then ran like the guilty scum that he is. I agree with the boycott, if we, the public don't make a stand, then what does that say about what our sense of justice and respect for all children? I think everybody should speak out, if he gets off this is a travesty of justice!


Doug   October 2nd, 2009 12:06 am ET

Can we just get rid of most of hollywood? I mean these people are really nuts!


Sara   October 2nd, 2009 12:06 am ET

Exactly! What if it had been one of their daughters? What on earth are these supporters thinking? What he did was criminal and sick. He admitted he did it. His own horrific past is not a get-out-of-jail-free card. Thank you, Mr. Martin, for expressing what those of us without celebrity'ism are thinking and giving us a voice. Wow, are they all that eager to be in his next film?


Tee   October 2nd, 2009 12:07 am ET

Roland I almost always disagree with you but dang what a good article. I haven't seen anyone clarify this mess better than you have. Good job sir.


Starr   October 2nd, 2009 12:07 am ET

i was molested when I was 3. You never, ever get over it. Rape is a horrible crime and he should be punished and tatooed with CM on his forehead so you know he is a child molester. Who is to say that she was only the first one he ever got caught with. He is a nobody. Bring him back to America and let him face his demons.


Vo Reason   October 2nd, 2009 12:07 am ET

What's this "Jew" thing? Jews are just as outraged over Polanski's behavior and escape from justice as anyone else. There are Jews and then there are Jews. Most Jews I know (actually I'm half-Jewish) are intelligent, industrious and cultured. Many ethnic Jews have no religion or desire to practice Judaism or particular desire to have any kind of Jewish identity. And I expect that Jews serve in the military in higher proportions than their percentage of the population. Between myself and my two brothers, we served over 50 years in the armed forces, including combat duty in Vietnam.

Then there are the Hollywood scum-bags. Don't lump us all together. That is pure ignorance.


LeaveittoBieber   October 2nd, 2009 12:08 am ET

WOODY ALLEN is protesting Roman Polanski's arrest? Talk about the pot sticking up for the kettle!! Of course he is, he finds sleeping with his stepdaughter acceptable!!

I don't care if this guy won the Noble Peace Prize...a 44 year old man drugging and having intercourse with a 13 year old equates to rape no matter how many fabulous movies he's done!! I am so sorry that he suffered the tragedy of the Manson attack on his wife, friends and unborn child but that does NOT give the man license to assault children..period end!! As for the rest of his supporters...do you think for one minute they would be lauding this man if it was their daughter, son or one of their grandchildren that was assaulted?

I was raped by my adoptive father starting at the age of 3 and have heard from various family memebers "he didn't know", "he had issues", "he was alcoholic" etc...there is NO EXCUSE for killing the soul of a child!! I'm sure this poor woman wants it all to "be over" but it never will., it never goes away, you can bury it, deny it and go through therapy until you die but it is still there.

As for his Hollywood "supporters", I will take note of them and will not give my hard earned dollars to a single film, book, concert, promotion, or cause that they appear in or support. As a stand up comedian I have previously cut the debauchery of Hollywood some slack, you have to be slightly crazy to be creative, but this turns my stomach. Hook him, book him and cook him, ENOUGH with the slap on the hands and special treatment for the "celebrities"..."All men are created equal" unless you've won, or been nominated an Oscar, Emmy or Tony or have appeared in the public eye as an entertainer.

My thoughts and prayers go out to his victim, PLEASE...now that they have him make him pay, at least FINANCIALLY, for what he has done to you. Since he obviously has no remorse in his soul hit him in the wallet, money can't give you back what you've lost but a month or two in Hawaii and setting up your children and grandchildrens futures might ease the pain a little. Good luck Lady and God Bless you!!


afrank   October 2nd, 2009 12:08 am ET

The victim was 13 at the time. It doesnt matter a wit what she says now, she didnt have the legal capcity to consent when this happened. Courts have ruled doctors can be prosecuted for assiting in sucides when the adult consents, how can a monir consent?


Sniffit   October 2nd, 2009 12:09 am ET

TROOF!!!


dan   October 2nd, 2009 12:09 am ET

good for you! rape – is rape. the sin – the stain – the crime – never fades!


Dorothy   October 2nd, 2009 12:10 am ET

Thank you Mr. Martin.
I have boycotted the work of Polanski ever since this case first became known. I plan to do the same for his defenders and will gladly leave my name on a national petition. I wasn't at all surprised that fellow pedophile Woody Allen stood up for him. I regret that the name of Polanski's victim has been freely printed. Shame on the news media for continuing to do that.

And to the person who thinks the law should leave Roman alone and go after "other bad guys" who continue to rape and molest, I just want to know how she knows Polanski has not continued to prey on other young girls?


William   October 2nd, 2009 12:10 am ET

Mr. Martin, I'll forget, for the moment, that you are a mere commoner and, as such, given to believe that "we are all equal" and that no one is above the law and so on and so forth. You demean the people who defend this man and, quite naturally, given your beliefs, place yourself as the iconic Christian crusader – expounding love and forgiveness for your fellow man while wishing nothing less than he rot in jail for a crime that, as you failed to mention, has already been settled out of court by both the victim and Mr. Polanski. And, may I add, that you also fail to point out that the victim has repeatedly asked that all charges be dropped and that the matter be forgotten especially so that people like yourself do not feel the need to write about it and, perhaps, focus on more important issues. Yet, it is clear that you chose not to mention these facts in your article merely for the sake of riling up for your own gain the trademark feeling of all mob's – outrage. Of course, in that respect you have been redundantly successful. Congratulations. Perhaps your next article should center upon judicial authorities who strive to be placed in front of a camera and on the covers on national publications merely so they can satisfy their need for a little fame. And, of course, it wouldn't hurt their careers if they manage to put Mr. Polanski in jail in front of a international audience, now would it? In short, Mr. Martin, perhaps you should cease to stop wishing that God Almighty forgive Mr. Polanski for his sin, and instead plead to God that he deliver to you the means to write an article that does not seek to garner the support of commoners like yourself by attacking a man who has done more for film and culture in his lifetime than what you, or any of his detractors, could do if given an eternity to do same.


Debbie   October 2nd, 2009 12:10 am ET

I read an article on CNN yesterday where a celebrity was quoted as saying that enough time has passed that they think he should be let go. So what about all the cold case files that are out there. All the old robbery, rape, and murder cases from 10 to 50 years ago. Are they actually saying if the police find a murder after 20 years, we should let him go because a lot of time has passed? What about all the crimes that are committed and the defendants jump bail? Are you saying that we shouldn't pursue getting them back behind bars to pay for their crime. I'm so sick of celebrities thinking that they are above the law, their double standards, and thinking that all they have to do is protest and they'll get their ways because they're celebrities. Face facts Hollywood! He pleaded guilty and fled the country. Now he's caught and needs to be punished. End of story!


courtney   October 2nd, 2009 12:10 am ET

What happened to Sharon Tate does NOT warrant comparison to what happened to Samantha Gailey. I am not saying that Samantha is not a victim...she was. It would be nice, though, if people were this outraged and vocal over pastors, priests, and other clergymen molesting children.


Patty   October 2nd, 2009 12:11 am ET

As usual, Roland, you're spot on.

I cannot comprehend that people don't feel this was a very serious crime...or that Polanski is soooo special, he needs to be considered
above the law.


James Allen   October 2nd, 2009 12:11 am ET

I agree. Woody Allen, a father who married his adopted daughter, is also a pervert, so of course he would come out in favor of
letting Mr. Polansky off the hook. This man is a rapist and if one of their daughters were raped, you know there would be an uproar.

The people that signed the protest should be ashamed. It is galling
that they would try to protect and help such a criminal.


Lesley   October 2nd, 2009 12:12 am ET

I have NEVER commented on any news story...yet this one drives me to comment. I 100% agree with this article. Yes this man commited an unspeakable act, yes the judge reneged on the predetermined bargain, yes the victim seeks this to end, yes the accused was also a victim of HORRIFYING crimes, yes the victims mother made a SERIOUS mistake...BUT...what is at the true heart is that this child was SEXUALLY ASSAULTED by a man 30+ years her senior. THERE IS NO EXCUSE! I am a mother to a young girl...I would never allow her to be placed in such a vulnerable position as the victim. BUT that does not excuse this man of his crimes. He willfully commited these acts...he willfully pled guilty to these acts...and he WILLFULLY evaded law enforcement and fled the country. He made these choices! What choices did the victim have when she was fed drugs and alcohol?Had he served the remaining 48 days, this would all be over. How is he so special? How is it that we defend this individual when what he did is abhorred at the highest levels of society? How is it that we say he is the wronged party? I too agree to any boycott of hollywood characters that are standing up and defending this person. Bring him back to the US...let him face a court room...if the justice system failed to honor the earlier plea agreement...then let that be decided by a judge! If this person HONESTLY believes they are not guilty and that they are the victim...then let it play out in court.


rebehkah   October 2nd, 2009 12:12 am ET

Thank you for approaching this matter in a sane fashion. I don't think the sentiment would be the same for these "hollywood" supporters if it were their son/daughter who was drugged and raped at 13 years old by an assailant 3-4 times their age. Fleeing the country does not constitue serving your time.


Doug   October 2nd, 2009 12:12 am ET

Let's not make this a left/right liberal/conservative issue. I'm as liberal as almost anyone I know and I still think it is shameful that anyone is supporting this child molester. He is a criminal and he used his wealth to escape prosecution. I have absolutely no sympathy for him and no respect for those who are calling for his release.


Incite   October 2nd, 2009 12:12 am ET

Here is the question for those who say the victim forgave him and so shall society. Let me ask you this: someone kills my family member, and I say, "So what, he was a jerk. I'm glad he's gone!" Because YOU forgave him doesn't mean the law has. Why should Polanski circumvent the law that us normal citizens can't. That is the premise behind the outrage we feel against this monster. And for Matt and others, you are obviously men who have your own theory of mother's selling daughters and kids lying. Seems you might be a little gender biased. Regardless, you are off on this one!


Caitlin   October 2nd, 2009 12:13 am ET

high five, roland, high five.


stacy   October 2nd, 2009 12:13 am ET

To the 2nd grade teacher who believes Polanski should be free because "children lie all the time" and because he's a "masterpiece in the making": You blame the mother because she allowed her child to go to the home? You hold him blameless for drugging, raping, and sodomizing a 13 yr old child after taking nude photos of her? The mother may have been guilty of poor judgment, and as a parent myself I can honestly say all parents make some mistakes. However, holding her responsible for her 13 yr old daughter being drugged, raped and sodomized by a pedophile is placing blame on the wrong person. He admitted his guilt, had photos of his acts. He should have served his time then. As far as what the victim wants, at this point it's not her call. One has to wonder how many other child victims are out there. Perhaps the reason she wants this dropped is the same reason many rape victims don't pursue justice. They just want it to go away. Whether she received monetary compensation or not is hardly the point. This man committed a horrible crime, and he should serve time in prison for it. You wonder how much money she received...I wonder how many hours of therapy were required for her to move on. How long was it before she stopped feeling like a victim, feeling afraid? How long did it take her to move on with her life? Have you ever spoken to a rape victim? Have you ever seen what they go through, trying to put their lives back together? Have you ever heard a rape victim describe the night terrors, the fear of being alone, the nightmares and panic attacks? I would suggest you stop glorifying this rapist that you call a "masterpiece" and that YOU get your facts straight. Try volunteering with a rape hotline, with abused children, then decide whether or not this rapist deserves your admiration. The fact that you have made a career of spending your days with young, impressionable children is terrifying and sad. Teachers like you are the exact reason my husband and I have chosen to homeschool our daughter.


jamall   October 2nd, 2009 12:13 am ET

Michael Hsu, shut da hell up!
This has nothing to do, racism. Damn, can't folks have one damn conversation with out you dam race baiters.


Rick   October 2nd, 2009 12:14 am ET

I agree with everything in tha article. If anything he should have gotten a lot more time. I would hope he will now. I found it interesting that Woody Allen would speak up. Didn't he take up with his own step-daughter? Not much of a supprise there.


NWisconsinboy   October 2nd, 2009 12:15 am ET

Polanski should be sent back to the USA, face the charges and be sentenced accordingly. Who cares what he does for a living?


jamall   October 2nd, 2009 12:15 am ET

Michael Hsu, shut da hell up!
This has nothing to do, racism.


eugene   October 2nd, 2009 12:15 am ET

I disagree.. In fact, Polanski is the best director ever. I bet that girl just seduced him. Poor, poor Polanski.


H   October 2nd, 2009 12:16 am ET

Kudos to you on your comments of today.

Where are we as a society if we cannot protect the children within it?


Bob   October 2nd, 2009 12:17 am ET

Great points but it loses its punch when you go into the whole religious aspect. I'm a catholic. Who cares. The law is what matters here. He broke it and should pay.


Joe   October 2nd, 2009 12:17 am ET

Bringing an old man to justice after almost half a century is a nice way to shift focus from our inherently a sick society. What about our children who are systematically sexualized from an early age through fashion, media and music? We think nothing of 10 year old girls running around singing "I kissed a girl and I liked it"! This sexual exploitation is happening with the tacit consent of parents, teachers and society in general. All this hue and cry is coming from a morally moribund culture who likes to pretend that it cares. Let's stop kidding ourselves.


DB   October 2nd, 2009 12:17 am ET

I am 48 years old. Mother of two. Not politically inclined, but considered a Conservative Democrat, if anyone asked. I think of my daughter, when she was 13 years old. Don't care, where, how, what "brilliance" the offender brought to the table; any Mom's 13 year old is my 13 yr. old... So I ask, how can anyone defend this behavior?
When I read the names of Hollywood folk in defense of Roman Polanski, I wonder how we can be so far apart in our understanding of what is right. Regardless, I can tell you that I will not spend one dime in promotion of the careers of Mike Nichols, Debra Winger, Whoopi Goldberg, etc. Whether they lose sleep over that, I cannot predict. But for every me there is another Mom... and another... and that, you better think about...


Nam   October 2nd, 2009 12:18 am ET

First of all, the Hollywood "elite" need to face a severe backlash for their protest – no one is above the law. What would these same snobs say if Polanski had raped 50 children? Would that be okay if Polanski had won 50 Oscars?

What kind of message would society be sending if this child rapist were to get special treatment because he can make artistic movies?

Secondly, yes, victim's welfare is important, but a criminal case (as rape is) is because of an individual's offense not only to the victim, but also to society. Society has deemed certain actions unacceptable and as such, decided that those actions must be punished. Even if the victim decides not to press charges, that just means that the key witness will not cooperate (thus making a criminal case much more difficult), not that the prosecutor does not have a duty to follow the law.

Consider this: If 30-year old John Doe pays a 10-year old girl for sex and gets caught by the police, do the police decide to not arrest John Doe because the 10-year old girl says its okay?


JP   October 2nd, 2009 12:18 am ET

Thank you for writing this – I have been furious for days,

What is wrong with Hollywood? I say we get a petition going boycotting all those in support of Polanski – have they lost their minds??? I was able to see a photo from the "photo shoot" and it simply broke my heart. She was just a child, very innocent – far from the Lolita the French claimed (thank God they came to their senses and dropped their support!)

I really hope the backlash continues – there could be much bigger consequences than we realize. Hollywood needs to clean up their act.


Angie   October 2nd, 2009 12:18 am ET

Thanks you for saying what i've been wanting to say – but much more eloquently.


Lesley   October 2nd, 2009 12:19 am ET

I believe that there is two issues here. One is that he has NOT served the sentence for his crime. He admitted it. He plead guilty to it. The judge is not obligated to enforce the prosecution reccommended sentence, they can impose their own and that is what Polanski seemed so opposed to. The second thing is he jumped bail, he ran away that is another crime within itself. They have tried to finish this off in the past but he has refused to return to the US to face up to the consequences of his actions. In the end he is an adult and needs to take responsibility for the actions, however long ago and however "minor" his friends believe it is.


JDT   October 2nd, 2009 12:19 am ET

10-4. Enough said. Great piece of writing.


gisher   October 2nd, 2009 12:20 am ET

Nobody who was half sane could defend a rapist. There is no defense of rape and rape is not sex, it is violence. That said, looking through many many of the comments in this thread you see a bunch of people just as sick as Polanski, toting all sorts of racial hatred or self-loathing and guilt projected on someone else, or people looking for every possible way to strap their agenda on to this story and grind it slap to death, in a another lame attempt to twist the reality back to their warped perceptions.

Polanski belongs in this country. He fits right in.


kmoore   October 2nd, 2009 12:21 am ET

Matt,

If Roman was falsly accused, then why confess? No one who is innocent does this.There are people who have been accused of murder who had the possibility of being put to death who, out of concsious, would not say they were guilty of a crime because they knew in their heart they were innocent. The fact that he was willing to bargain for his freedom tells me the case was strong enough without the confession to put him away for a while.
As for her mother sending her over there, it doesn't change the fact that the adults in this situation failed her; she is the victim, not the pedophile.
Hollywood has been a cancer on our nation for a long time. I think in light of this revelation, I think people will begin to hit them where it matters; their pocketbooks. I, for one, think I'll be finding other activities to fill my time instead of watching film and television.


JOhn   October 2nd, 2009 12:21 am ET

I love Polanski's films. He is certainly a talented director. I respect him as an artist. But he screwed up big time. I agree 100% with you, Roland. And I am disappointed at those who somehow condone his behavior in this matter.


Florin   October 2nd, 2009 12:21 am ET

Uhm, Mr. Polanski was not convicted of anything. The case never went to trial. He plead guilty to unlawful sexual intercourse. Whether you think it was right or wrong, there was an agreed upon plea deal. The judge and the DA had agreed on it. An extensive psych evaluation found that Mr. Polanski was NOT a pedophile or a habitual sex offender. He has admitted he was acting out and using drugs and alcohol in the wake of the horrendous death of his wife and unborn child.

Then after being in a lockdown maximum security psych ward for over a month he hears that the judge is planning to ignore the plea bargain agreed to by the DA AND THE VICTIM. SO he declined to return to the US, after being allowed to leave for filming, because he didn't believe he could trust the authorities. His history as a Holocaust survivor surely played into this decision.

I'm not defending what he did. It was reprehensible. But why didn't the State of California pursue him with more vigor at the time? The man is 76 years old, for crying out loud. To my knowledge he hasn't been accused of anything like this since that time. More to the point, the victim in the case has repeatedly asked the DA and the State to drop the whole matter. She has risen above what he did to her and made a life for herself, and now says that the only thing that keeps hurting her is the media coverage that explodes any time the DA's office makes a move on this case. Plus it is my understanding that current authorities admit that there was judicial misconduct at the time the case was first brought.

So, there are many very good reasons why this matter should be put to rest.

Most of all, though, people need to stop saying Mr. Polanski was "found guilty of rape". HE WAS NEVER TRIED. He entered into a plea bargain where he was to plead guilty to unlawful intercourse. THAT PLEA BARGAIN WAS NEVER ADJUDICATED. He fled the country in the wake of judicial misconduct, fearing he would not get a reasonably fair hearing, a fear justifiable given the actions of the original judge.

The man is NOT a "convicted rapist". His plea deal never reached final adjudication. Please state the correct facts before you begin pontificating.


Jennifer B   October 2nd, 2009 12:22 am ET

Polanski is a coward. What's so artistic about that?


Ken G   October 2nd, 2009 12:22 am ET

Let's see. 42 days served in prison. Decades served in a villa in a foreign country. Catered parties and more young women. Thumbing his nose at the American judicial system.
And now, Hollywood says he's been punished enough?
Yep, time to burn my SAG card.


G Davis   October 2nd, 2009 12:22 am ET

Dear Roland, Thank you for having the courage to speak the truth. I feel for all the tragedy Polanski has endured in his life. One would think it would make him empathetic to the suffering of others. But no, he alledgedly used a 13-year-old to satisfy his own perverted desires. He maybe sick as are all those who rationalize such sick behavior. He needs to be brought before a jury to answer for his acts.


sickOfPartisanship   October 2nd, 2009 12:22 am ET

Nicely written Roland.

If Hollywwod brass doesn't like him to face the consequences in US, let us see if they would like him to be sentenced according to Sharia law in Saudi Arabia. Won't Polanski's crime be punishable with castration? This sick man surely deserves such barbaric punishment.


pk   October 2nd, 2009 12:22 am ET

Michael Hsu's comment is idiotic. This has nothing to do with race it's about a scumbag that raped a child and all the hollywood scum that endorse this unless of course it's their own child. even then maybe they would like the press. Don't make this a race issue .


Daniel   October 2nd, 2009 12:22 am ET

Every big-Hollywood elitist who signed the idiotic petition should be required to publicly clarify their defense of Polanski. Does Debra Winger really feel that 42 days is adequate punishment for anally raping a 13 year old girl? I'm really curious about just what attributes warrant giving Polanski a pass for a heinous crime that would send a typical American to the slammer for 20 years. Is it because he's an artist? Is it because he survived the Holocaust? Or is it just because he's a fellow member of their well-connected, aristocratic scum club?


Joe Hunkins   October 2nd, 2009 12:22 am ET

Thanks for talking common sense. It is not clear to me how Hollywood can so consistently come down on the side of so many bad people, yet argue they are open minded progressives. Tell it to the victims. Better yet, make a film about why Hollywood standards are so different from the regular, decent folks that made them all very rich.


michele   October 2nd, 2009 12:24 am ET

some have noted that the victim in this case has asked that the matter be dropped as she has forgiven polanski and moved on with her life. this is admirable and something for which she should be respected. but, it is important for everyone to understand that the crime that polanski committed was not just against his individual victim, but against society as a whole; that is why the charges have not dropped. this is a point that should be understood from a legal perspective. and to those who question if it is worth it to prosecute this man, given the duration of time since the crime was committed, the high profile of the case demands that he should be brought to justice – just look at the number of people who are discussing this case. to let him go, to allow the case to simply fall by the wayside would say to all criminals, all fugitives from justice, merely bide your time and /or buy your way out, you'll be free as well. polanski is a talented artist and a man who has suffered in life – greatly and profoundly. but that does not excuse his behaviour; if nothing else, it should have informed his conscience as to the truly heinous nature of his acts. no one, good, bad, talented, rich or poor is above the law. that is a, if not the, tenet of our country – we follow the rule of law.


Sue   October 2nd, 2009 12:25 am ET

Finally!!!! What the hell is wrong with these people? Since when is there such a thing as a "Rape rape"? What is Rape NOT rape??
I've never seen such a clear example of elitism. And I'm a liberal!
No one is above the law. Hitler's doctors experimented on Holocaust victims for the sake of science. Science did not justify the torture and murder of human beings. Neither should art justify the rape of a child.
Shame on Anjelica Huston - the girl was "sullen"? When are adolescents NOT sullen? Ms. Huston knew full well the girl was too young to consent. She unfortunately also believed that powerless girls and women seeking to become actresses deserve to be raped on the casting couch.
I plan to boycott the films of all those publicly supporting this rapist. And to think that I actually admired some of these stupid, entitled, hypocritical, talented people. They're talented actors, meaning people talented at the skill of faking.


mikewright   October 2nd, 2009 12:27 am ET

I totally agree with everything Roland has written about this child
molester, who deserves no sympathy from these sick in the head
hollywood star supporters.they are a disgusting bunch of perverts.
Polanski is no different from for,eg a pedaphile priest caught 30yrs
later and charge for his crimes.The only thing i would question is
the 30yr half hearted attempt to catch him ,one can put up with
most of the hollywood weird goings on ,but supporting this creepy
child rapist is a new low even by hollywoods anything goes standards
mike


David Marks   October 2nd, 2009 12:27 am ET

Spot on.


Jeremiah   October 2nd, 2009 12:27 am ET

"smh for justice" you are just completely and totally wrong. How in the world can you believe that a 13 year old girl is in any way culpable or responsible for what happened? Was she too "sexy" for the 44 year old adult? Was he just unable to resist her 13 year old charms? Give me a break! Assuming that she, at 13 did want this encounter to happen (unlikely seeing as how she had to be drugged), Polanski was 44 at the time. He was supposed to be a responsible adult.

A 13 year old child lacks the mental capacity to make good, responsible decisions; which is why 13 yr olds aren't allowed to drive, to vote, to serve in the military, own a handgun, enter into a binding contract, OR ENGAGE IN A CONSENSUAL SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH A FREAKING 44 YEAR OLD MAN!!!

I also disagree with the very first poster who linked the Supreme Court's decision to ban sodomy laws with this kind of filth. You sir, are an idiot too. There is NO LINK between homosexuality and rape or pedophilia...absolutely none.

This absolutely confounds me. I'm a liberal. I voted for Obama. I believe in Universal Healthcare...but for the love of God, these people that are trying to defend Polanski and his CRIME OF RAPE are absolute nutjobs.


allie   October 2nd, 2009 12:27 am ET

SPOT ON. I do not understand the mentality of anyone who thinks this isn't a crime punishable by imprisonment. I am so tired of Hollywood elite thinking they are above the law – drugs, prostitution, murder (OJ), homicide by DUI (Matthew Broderick) & rape. It is DISGUSTING and must stop.


Casey   October 2nd, 2009 12:27 am ET

A man was recently sentenced for shooting another man with a pellet gun and stealing his hot dog... he got 18 months. How in the world can our system give a person who RAPED a child a lesser sentence than a pellet gun toting hot dog theif?


jane doe   October 2nd, 2009 12:27 am ET

Two words: R. Kelly. Don't remember you complaining about him getting off scott free. Is it cause he's black?
You complain about the "holocaust" card being played yet you, Roland, has played the race card many times to excuse double standards when black folks, such as Jerimiah Wright or Louis Farrakkhan, talk about Jews like the Klan once talked bout you.
Why you never address the race card played by blacks Roland? You always defend it. Hypocrite!!!!!!!!!


Shari Dunn   October 2nd, 2009 12:27 am ET

PA...The STATE is bringing the charges against Polanski. It doesn't matter what the victim desires. Polanski committed a crime against society. Know something about the legal system before you sound off. Criminal charges are not dropped when there is sufficient evidence. He pled guilty and ran like a coward.

While the girl's mother showed horrible judgement in allowing Polanski private time with her daughter, Polanski was the adult. It doesn't matter if the sex was consensual or not, it was rape.


BoB1stshirt   October 2nd, 2009 12:28 am ET

Kyle, smh, Matt, et al,
If a mother brings her 13-year-old daughter, naked, to a pedophile, the pedophile is not absolved of any culpability in the crime.

If a rape victim suffers anxiety and anguish from continually having to recount her attack, does that mean the rapist should not be punished?

A young girl is kidnapped at age 11 and spends 18 years under her kidnappers control. Since she, apparently, never tried to escape does that mean that her kidnapper cannot or should not be brought to justice?

Your arguments are void of logic or rational justification. So what if the crime occurred 30 years ago. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone who avoids incarceration for several decades can thereby eternally avoid incarceration?


s   October 2nd, 2009 12:28 am ET

It's difficult for me to sympathize with someone who fled the country for 3 decades in lieu of serving his meager sentence of 48 days in jail... had Mr. Polanski stayed and served his time, this all would have disappeared 32 years ago. His cowardice is what has caused him to live in exile for so long. While I understand the victim's perspective in the case and do believe that the media and investigators mishandled it, and perhaps her opinion that the case be dismissed is understandable; I do not think that any sympathy should be directed at Mr. Polanski, but at his victim and how these many years have affected and overcomplicated her life in a way that she never asked for.


danny merriweather   October 2nd, 2009 12:29 am ET

As a Christian I have the responsibility to forgive and the duty to protect my children. I can and do forgive RP and I will feel like I am protecting my children when he is behind bars. As far as his peers agreeing with his conduct, it is apparent they are totally and completely deceived and ignorant to God's word.....particularly "Whatever a man sows that shall he also reap." As they sow into this deception and sin, they need to ask what they will soon receive for either themselves or their family members.


Stacie Lancaster   October 2nd, 2009 12:29 am ET

Roland – Thank you for speaking the truth about this case. Mr. Polanski is a rapist. That's the accurate description for this crime. (That Woody Allen is supporting him is not a surprise...Mr. Allen was founded in sexual abuse of his daughter -.birds of a feather...). I would also like to take this time to note there is another offender in this case – Angelika Huston. To be present in the house while a 13 year-old is raped is to fail to protect a minor. Her action, or in this case lack of action, should be noted with outrage and she should also be charged. Ms. Huston did nothing to prevent this crime, to stop this crime or to report this crime. That's a crime in and of itself. It is time to make accountable all those who fail to protect our children. To those who believe a 13 year-old is culpable...even if this child was naked and "begging for it", it is against the law to have sex with a minor. Period. Adults are not only expected to know, but also expected to protect children – theirs and others – at all time. All men (and women) are expected to control themselves and their body responses at all times. There is no gray area here – Mr. Polanski committed a heinous crime and he needs to be held accountable for it. (p.s. – there were many survivors of the Holocaust, the majority of them chose not to rape a minor.)


matt   October 2nd, 2009 12:29 am ET

Thank you Martin for using your voice to say what we are all thinking.

As for the rest of us, we need to band together and never give another dime of our money to any of the people who support the rapist Roman Polanski. That means never watching their movies or buying the products they are associated with.


jane doe   October 2nd, 2009 12:30 am ET

The NAACP supported Mike Vick, how is this any difernt Roland? Don't remember you taking them to task. They never defend white folks who are charged w animal cruelty. They even protested PETA for having the audacity to crticize a black male. Where was your commintary then, Roland?


rouzaud   October 2nd, 2009 12:30 am ET

Thank you Roland. No one likes to admit it, but culture evolves only through one thing- communication. And generally, mankind follow (evolve into) those whom they listen to and admire. A word to the wise, turn from these corrupters of our society, and do not support them. Fathers and mothers, show some self discipline and reject these who would spoil your children. All programs, influences, people, that exploit women, and glamorize sexual promiscuity should be anathama to any responsible parent.


e.f.   October 2nd, 2009 12:31 am ET

What a great piece. True true. It's so sickening that so many influential people have opted to try to use their influence to help this admitted rapist continue to evade justice in the name of him being a "great artist" (as if there aren't so many better causes in the world). Just because someone makes art doesn't mean they should get amnesty from justice- – Charles Mansion made art too, so did Hitler for that matter.. It's time for Hollywood to stop overdosing on its own ego.

I saw an interview of Polanski being asked about the rape many years later, and his response was beyond arrogant and disgusting.. He was like "what can I say, I like young women.. i think many men do.. " If that's how he views the situation, even so many years later, I really hope he gets the strictest punishment he can get – both for being a child-rapist and a fugitive.. I wouldn't be surprised at all if there were other victims since..

How can these "Hollywood elite" support setting a very public example that the raping of children, and running away from the justice system is totally acceptable and consequence need not be paid?

As someone who was a victim of rape as a child, I understand very well what it's like to live with it for the rest of your life... No child rapist, or any rapist, or criminal for that matter should go unpunished!!! How could any intelligent person think otherwise?!


erica   October 2nd, 2009 12:31 am ET

wow this whole thing makes me never want to see a movie again... and as for the victim, yes im sorry this happened to you and it doesn't seem to go away but you have no right to ask our legal system to leave him alone, this is much bigger than you, who knows how many young girls he raped while he was living it up in france.


Norman   October 2nd, 2009 12:32 am ET

Finally, an open perspective to moral values that should be upheld. He may have been successful career wise but that certainly doesn't guarantee him the freedom to walk around having committed a crime.
Well said Roland.....there's only one place for such guys and that's behind bars, with the keys proverbially thrown deep in the Atlantic.


johnnie   October 2nd, 2009 12:32 am ET

Matt
I would be scared to death to have my kids be tought by you.
Roland thank you for writing what real America thinks.. there needs to be reality checks for Hollywood stars.


Peter Walters   October 2nd, 2009 12:32 am ET

Who is at fault for dragging this case out for so long that even the victim just wants it to go away? Roman Polanksi. This is not a case of presumed innocent until proven guilty – the man admitted to horrible and despicable behavior against a 13 year, then chose a life of freedom and convenience without any thought to the long term effects he left behind. How can anyone possibly think he is anything but a low-life rapist? Shame on you Mr. Weinstein and all of your buddies. There is nothing Mr. Polanski has done in the years since his crime to atone for his wrongdoing, and nothing you could ever say that would explain your support for him now. You are just as disgusting as your beloved Roman. May God have mercy on your souls.


Duane   October 2nd, 2009 12:32 am ET

Everyone said he had intercourse with her. What they don't say, which is in the deposition of the victim is that when he realized she was not on the pill, he sodomize her.

It is a shame that ANYONE would stand in his defense!


Amir   October 2nd, 2009 12:33 am ET

I am a father of a 12 year old girl and as such, I am obliged to convey my thoughts.

1. People like Polanski deserve capital punishment, not a 90 day jail term. Child rape is immoral, illegal and unforgivable and we should not allow prosecutors to accept or propose pleas that make a mockery of the law. Of course, the judge was obliged to reject such a deal.

2. Artistic mastery, fame, fortune etc. must not put you above the law. What next? Bestiality by rock stars should also be acceptable? Well if the sheep did not complain, it might have been consensual?? Maybe we should also show mercy to mass murderers just because they were great graffiti artists??????

3. People in Hollywood live in "lala-land". That their sense of right and wrong is probably imbalanced has been made evident by the behavior of many of these so called celebrities. (Maybe it's the lights?affecting their brains??) However, the latest outpouring of support from these retards for Polanski is reprehensible and insidious as it seeks to shift the blame away from a perpetrator towards the legal system seeking to correct a wrong done years ago.

4. The last of the known nazi genocide participants was sequestered a few months ago. The passage of time is not considered to be a reason to slow that process down, and neither should it be allowed to be so in this case.

5. The legal system has been designed to punish people so that other people are discouraged from committing similar crimes in the future. If any one person is able to defeat the system, it will just encourage other criminals, in this case – child rapists. Can we afford to have that happen?

6. That the victim wants to put this behind her is immaterial. Why she wants to do that is also irrelevant. The fact remains that when the crime was committed, it was reported as the rape of a child. And that must be result in appropriate punishment even if Polanski were to be 96 years old...

PERIOD


Kimberly   October 2nd, 2009 12:33 am ET

There are a lot of rapist who never got caught and are still running the streets. I guess someone should send out the bulletin letting them know it's okay to confess because apparently there's a time limit on how long you can be tried for a crime. So the victims who grow up to be Oprah, or Teri Hatcher really aren't victims anymore because it happened a long time ago, oh and they have talent?


T. Carroll   October 2nd, 2009 12:33 am ET

I am totally disgusted! by those who support this animal. I could give a rats, you know what, about Roman Polanski's artistic abilities.....he is a self-admitted rapist who pled guilty and then fled before facing his punishment. I have no pity for him and hope that Switzerland and the U.S. continue to do the right thing by bringing this creep to justice.

To Matt:

You better pray that I never find out where you teach because i would have a full investigation launched on you. Perhaps you side with the monster because you yourself have molested/raped one of your 7 year old students. YOU should NEVER be allowed anywhere near children. I hope someone who's reading this blog recognizes you and out you so that further action can be taken against you. I would first start with you losing your job.

I am all for boycotting those celebs that support Roman Polanski.


Steve Hawkins   October 2nd, 2009 12:33 am ET

Nobody seems to be calling for the release of Philip Garrido for kidnapping and raping Jaycee Duggard eighteen years ago because it happened so long ago, we should let bygones be bygones.

Why is roman polanski any different? Besides being a little bit shorter and a whole lot richer


Andy   October 2nd, 2009 12:33 am ET

True, he is only charged with what sounds like a small crime. But the fact is, with his fame, fortune, and lawyers, he was able to plea out of much worse. I've read the sworn statements from the little girl. He is guilty of forcing oral, vaginal, and anal sex on her. He gave a 13 year old alchohol and drugs that could have seriously hurt if not killed her. These are horrific crimes. Don't tell me he is only guilty of the lesser offense of sex with a minor. Hollywood's elite prove once again that they don't get it.


Lisa   October 2nd, 2009 12:34 am ET

I'm having difficulty following the logic of those who believe Polanski is innocent because the mother brought the child to his residence. Unless, of course, it's now legal for parents to give consent to pedophiles, therefore excusing all of the adults involved of any wrong doing. If that's the case, please excuse my misunderstanding of the situation.


hithere   October 2nd, 2009 12:34 am ET

Any of you Polanski supporters care to explain his relationship with 15 year old Natasha Kinsky or the 17 year with her that same night, or how about the newspaper article dug up from the 1970's where he goes into explicit detail about what he likes in young girls?
Can any of you finally admit that defending him makes you look like you're defending a serial pedophile?
What else has this guy been doing that we don't know about?


Ellie   October 2nd, 2009 12:34 am ET

Great commentary. Appreciate your honesty and I agree with your analysis. Many have lost sight of the crimes at hand...the horrific crime committed more than 30 years ago and the fact that he fled from authorities. I believe he should have to face the consequences of his actions regardless of his victim thinks it should be dropped.


justice69   October 2nd, 2009 12:35 am ET

Mr. Roland, I applaud you sir, I'm sooo happy to know someone wrote about this matter defending the justice that needs to be upheld in this situation with MR. Polanski. Everything what MR. Roland has said in his article is truly precise to the point. RApe is Rape and Justice should be served whether you are the President or just a simple commoner. None should just get a free pass or escape just because they have a celebrity pass to show around their artistic views or popularity. This really disgusts me and many others such people like Debra Winger, listen this is really sickening, all these celebrities who are Jewish are defending their own, like MR. Polanski. Jews stick up for each other and all those celebrities are Jews who are defending him even Whoopi is Jewish, they don't care what he has done, long as he's Jewish and escaped the Holocaust and he had his ups and downs in life, these Jews pitty him, and just want him to continue on with his work. Sorry but I don't care who you are, you pay the price for what you have done, and man up to it, take your punishment. Shame on these celebrities defending him!


RG   October 2nd, 2009 12:36 am ET

You know, it is this kind of behavior from some Hollywood jackasses, that give all the right-wing jackasses breathing room. After all, if Bill Clinton hadnt disported himself with a girl no older than his daughter, we wouldn have had to endure GW Bush for 8 years!


Mary   October 2nd, 2009 12:36 am ET

The "elitists" in Hollywood, NY., and France need to get their heads out of the sand! They have worked in make believe for so long that they can't tell reality for the movies. Debra Winger, what is she smoking, she sounded like a nut case in Switzerland expounding on the poor victim, Polanski. In the real world, individuals are held accountable for their actions. It makes no difference that Polanski commited the crime 32 years ago, it makes no difference that he was a victim of of the Nazis, nor that he wife was murdered. Other individuals have suffered losses such as he, and they do not commit violence upon others. He victimized this chlld and did everything but turn her inside out. His violence was premeditated upon a 13 year old girl. It is hard to understand how women, even women in Hollywood could stand up for this man.


Concerned   October 2nd, 2009 12:36 am ET

I have to agree entirely with Roland on this issue. Allowing this this type of blatant patronage garbage, by birds of an industrial feather is how injustice and corruption infiltrate and fester. There is no justification for rape. Period.

As for woopi, I used to like and respect her. However, recently I find her to be of the same patronage sort. She did the same thing when she tried to justify the sadistic behavior of micheal Vick regarding the dog fighting ring. Stating that we should someohow forgive him because that's what people did where he came up from. I'm rapidly losing respect for people with this kind of behavior. Let's put these people in their place. They are just people like everyone else. Allowing this patronage to influence justice adversely (in our face) sends the wrong message to everyone, especially the young and impressionable. How about all you super stars stand up for whats moral, ethical and the greater good. Instead of trying to line yourselves up for another part in a movie or some other future consideration.Because you aren't doing the rest of us any favors with the messages you have publicly conveyed.


Adrian   October 2nd, 2009 12:36 am ET

3 basic legal points:

1) Plea bargains are agreements between the prosecutor and the defendant. It is not an agreement with the court. The judge is free to accept or reject a plea bargain. The judge here in fact rejected the plea bargain, and such a decision is within a judge's discretion.

2) Polanski left the US because he didn't like the judge's decision. He was not entitled to leave simply because he didn't like his sentence. He was entitled to appeal his sentence, but he chose not to. The sentence thus still stands, and he is obligated to serve it.

3) Punishment is not determined by the victim. It is determined by the courts. So the fact that the victim now wants the criminal left alone has no bearing on the fact that he avoided sentencing.


Kristie   October 2nd, 2009 12:37 am ET

Wow Matt...Are you following the story at all...He admitted to the crime not only in court but also in the media...Where does lying come in..


jen from california   October 2nd, 2009 12:38 am ET

seriously, amen. no one could have said it better. i am truly baffled myself and those in hollywood, or anyone else for that matter, who supports polanskis release is out of their minds.


robert   October 2nd, 2009 12:39 am ET

whoopi, winger, weinstein, woody allen, are they of the same faith? why yes i think they are


Tabby   October 2nd, 2009 12:39 am ET

Nastassja Kinski has said that she and Roman Polanski began a sexual relationship when she was 15 years old. Obviously, this man is a pedophil.


Jennifer Warnock   October 2nd, 2009 12:39 am ET

Thank you very much for this article.
In Google News there are over 4K articles about Polanski.
It has been very difficult, until now, for me to find one that didn't support him.
Supporting Polanksi in this matter is supporting rape, sexual abuse, and isolation of sex victims.
You and a recent article from the LA Times have done made me say, "Finally! An article about this matter that makes sense."

Thank you.


SAFE MD   October 2nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

Are you kidding me Peter? You think there is a difference between sex with a minor and rape?? A 43 year old man having sex with a minor IS RAPE!! It doesn't even matter if there are drugs or alcohol involved, which, in this case there were. Drugs and alcohol also make this a nonconsensual case, no matter how old the participants are. Your attitude toward this matter is disturbing. A classic sign of pedophilia is that the perpetrator does not see what they are doing as wrong, often citing that the young child "wanted it." Roman Polanski is a sick man that should have been taken off the streets 30 years ago. He should be punished for what he did, serve as an example to others of how this behavior is not condoned, and be prevented from doing it again.


tammy   October 2nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

rot!!! polanski rot!!! Maybe the victim here wants to drop the whole thing because it is what SHE has HAD to do to go on living, while Mr. pervert was living the high life and allowed to do so without prosecution. For anyone who thinks she is somehow also responsible, I only wish it was you in her place, obviously it would be the only way you could understand such pain and suffering. I will never support any actor, actress or any other industry related moron that defends this man. Seriously you astound me!! And you will never convince me that this child was his only victim. Off to prison Mr. Polanski and if you drop the soap, don't bend over!!
And Matt, Hope nobody leaves their children unattended with you, you need help. Makes me want to home school... how can you be a teacher and be so dumb? SCAREY!!


Jeff   October 2nd, 2009 12:41 am ET

When Roman Polanski lands on US soil, let's announce that the prosecutor is going to seek the death penalty for the rape and fleeing the country. That'll get the frogs riled up!


Tom   October 2nd, 2009 12:41 am ET

Why are people trying to rationalize and minimize the fact(s) that Roman Polanski, with calculated premeditation, lured a 13 year old girl away from her home under false pretenses, drugged her, intimidated her, raped her vaginally and anally, and then fled the country to avoid his well-deserved sentence? Polanski committed an heinous crime and admitted his guilt. Child molesters such as this should be punished. Is 32 years of charmed life in France an adequate punishment? His continued avoidance of his responsibility to fess up only further encourages this kind of behavior.


Mel   October 2nd, 2009 12:43 am ET

Wouldn't it be nice if life was so black and white? There is a ton of grey areas in this case, and misconduct by so many.

As a rape survivor, a 13 year old in Hollywood in 1978, and a woman, I truly believe this matter should be dropped.

The victim would like to let it go and move on with her life. The L. A. DA should not spend one more moment on this if the victim is finished with it. How about they use the money that we are so short of in California to start processing the 5000 rape kits that are currently sitting in freezers in Los Angeles while the rapists are still running around town now?

How about if the media focused attention on the tsunami & earthquake victims? or any of the other major events going on in the world?

Rape is a horrific crime that forever scars its victims. This only makes it worse for her. Her opinion is really the only one that matters. Not any of ours.


La Viro   October 2nd, 2009 12:43 am ET

@leavenworth reader

The reason why I brought the issue into this discussion is because it is relevant to Hollywood's support of Roman Polanksi.

Jews in Hollywood support Roman Polanski because he is a Jew. That's all. Take a good hard look at the names on that petition. Do some basic research into the background and personal lives of those directors, actors, and actresses.

How many of them are Jews?
Don't take my word on it. Do the research yourself if you don't believe me.


Robinson   October 2nd, 2009 12:43 am ET

Youre spot on with the commentary Martin. I happened to see Whoopi go out of her way to defend Polanski and the view and it still baffles me. Talented or not what he did was dispisable, and to agree that he did do those acts and to flee before having to face the consquences is cowardly. For those who defend him, I simply ask how many of them would let him babysit their daughters or granddaughters?


Anonymous   October 2nd, 2009 12:43 am ET

To all the pedophile sympathizers on this blog: Why do we throw teachers in jail for having sex with their minor students? It obviously morally wrong and a crime, in case we've all forgotten. OK, so when something like that happens, whats the public reaction? Outrage of course because as people we know its wrong and as citizens we know its against the law. So my question to all the pro-pedophile bloggers is, how is the Polanski case any different, besides the alcohol and quaaludes of course? Why does he deserve amnesty and forgiveness when we throw the book at other, regular, average citizens? We treat these Hollywood types like idols, infallable and enlightened artists, get real! These people are no different than any of us except for their job, which last I checked doesn't give you a free pass on committing crimes. What makes Polanski different than any other rapist, only money and fame, so where are we as a society if we let that dictate how we apply the law? Throw him in jail just like any other criminal, if not than Scorsese, Weinstein, Winger, Mann, Allen, and Nichols better lock up their daughters, or not since they think this type of behavior is OK.


hong hunt   October 2nd, 2009 12:43 am ET

Thank you for speaking a truth that should be so obvious, Mr. Martin. Hollywood produces such wonderful things, it is disappointing to then know that such wonderful things come from such ignorant people.


sara   October 2nd, 2009 12:43 am ET

Thank you for being the voice of reason.


Bill Mullens   October 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

SPOT ON MARTIN! I AM NOT A FAN OF MOST OF YOUR LIBERAL IDEAS, BUT YOU SURE GOT THIS ONE RIGHT!


Joseph   October 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

American justice is up for sale. You will get more time in jail for smoking pot, and the only victim is the smoker. But then again most pot smokers aren't rich, but poor. Go figurer.

Keep it green


%^$ these stars   October 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

Mr. Martin,

Thank god there is a voice of reason out there. I don't know what rock these idiots have been trying to hide under, but can't they go back. I think a boycot of any film starring/produced/directed by any signee of this petitiion is warranted.

To end on a positive note, quoting Tom Morrello " I think we can all agree, he is the best child molesting director ever"


Concerned   October 2nd, 2009 12:45 am ET

Oh yea, and regarding the comment made by "PA ".
It's not revenge that we seek dude. It's justice. Justice is what we use to deter criminal behavior. If we let a crime go unpunished, regardless of how the victim feels after the fact., then there is no consequence for criminals to consider. And it sends the message that criminals can get away with crime as long as they can get victim's to be passive after the fact. Now you know. Hope you learned something.


Bill Mullens   October 2nd, 2009 12:45 am ET

TO LA VIRO: BRILLIANT!


Vakeel   October 2nd, 2009 12:45 am ET

To all of you who are concerned about the wishes of the victim and think that somehow now necessitates letting this criminal go free:

1. Victim's wishes were taken into account at the time of the plea. The case was plea bargained to a lesser charge so she would not have to testify;

2. If victim's wishes were the final word in whether we prosecute or punish a criminal, 99.99% of domestic violence cases or the multitude of cases involving people who know each other would not get prosecuted. You need look no further than the Chris Brown case where the victim hired an attorney to argue that the case should not be prosecuted!! That is why, although the victim's wishes are always taken into account, the final decision is up to the prosecutor and not the victim; and,

3. These case are not prosecuted, and the defendants are not punished, for the sake of the victim or the victim's family alone. Rather, they are prosecuted for the benefit of the society as whole [yes even the Hollywood hypocrits]. Goal is to protect the future victims by trying to deter the future defendants. That is why they are brought in the name of "The People of the State of California" and not the individual victim.


Dennis   October 2nd, 2009 12:45 am ET

Mr. Martin is directly on target on this one. I appreciate and share his views ont his topic. Recent news in the past year or so reflected underage people having sex with underage people and being labeled sex offenders. Should we give Polanski any less of a title?


Leslie   October 2nd, 2009 12:45 am ET

Rape victims receive a LIFE SENTENCE from the perpetrator (I know – I was raped)... why shouldn't the rapist?!?! 48 DAYS??? I'd happily trade what I've gone thru for all these years for a mere 48 days. SISSY.

And I agree with the poster who said they won't support another show movie production ANYTHING by those who signed that petition to free Polanski... I won't either. And I will PROUDLY sign my name to THAT.

Go get 'im Roland!


jon   October 2nd, 2009 12:45 am ET

Polanski should be jailed for the rest of his life. Can you imagine someone doing this to your own 13 year old daughter?


Bob   October 2nd, 2009 12:46 am ET

Facts:
1. Polanski confessed to the crime of rape (13 years old) and sodomy by giving the girl drugs and booze. Who cares if her mother let her go there.
2. He was arrested because he was turned in. He admitted to the police what he had done.
3. He had a well respected attorney representing him.
4. He served 42 days in jail.
5. He was sure in his mind he was going to be facing an additional 48 day in jail and was not sure what was going to happen next.
6. He became a fugitive from justice by leaving the country for France.
7. He's an ass just like Woodey Allen who did the same thing with his adopted daughter, while married (scum).
8. Did did the dying Manson killer Susan Atkins get clemency to go home to die. No. She died in prison. Same goes for Polanski.
9. When Polanski got to France did he make a film Tess, starring a young actress at the time, Nastassja Kinski. It is stated that he started to have a romantic relationship with her at the age of 14(1975 she was 14 years old).
10. So he had a thing for the underage girls. Isn't that against the law?


Eric   October 2nd, 2009 12:46 am ET

Hollywood is even MORE out of touch and out of control than we thought. They demanded that he be released.

DEMANDED!?!

Who the hell do they think they are? I think it's time us lowly worms, who have been supporting their butts by watching them play pretend for years, show them who actually controls their paychecks.

I can't wait to see Hollywood back-peddle when this blows up in their faces. I've been sick of their elitist attitude for quite some time now.

Maybe they'll make up yet another awards show using the pedophile's name so they can pat each other on the back.


Joe   October 2nd, 2009 12:46 am ET

Hardly a list of moral people here signing the petition. You have a cocaine addict (Scorceses), another one who married a woman 24 years younger than he is (Weinstein – when his now-wife wore her first diaper he had graduated college for 3 years) not to mention all the movies he produced that would qualify as porn at best, you have Woody (did you all forget Soon Yi?). Hmmm... do you think they're even slightly sympathetic to someone like Polanski? Hardly


Rob   October 2nd, 2009 12:46 am ET

Never before commented on a web blog, and doing so now simply because no matter how often I may disagree with Roland's views I just simply cannot believe anybody would side with a rapist. Amen Roland. When Hollywood starts justifying rape because of who did it or because it was not rape-rape, just child rape, we know there is a serious problem with what America is seeing on TV and the big screen.


Chuck   October 2nd, 2009 12:46 am ET

Well, at least I can understand why one of them, Woody Allen, sees no issue with an older man going after a young girl. Shame on them all.


Eric   October 2nd, 2009 12:46 am ET

I think you shouldn't bring faith into a discussion like this. Right is right and wrong is wrong no matter what religeon you are.

He deserves to serve time for these crimes no matter what the victim says.


Rich   October 2nd, 2009 12:46 am ET

Here's a column with excerpts from the original Grand Jury testimony of the girl in question....pretty damning stuff...

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-lopez30-2009sep30,0,1671827,full.column


Brent   October 2nd, 2009 12:47 am ET

I am at least a little relieved that the overwhelming majority who have answered this blog are sane.
It really sickens me that people who, by fate alone, are using their lot in life as public figures, to support a criminal. These are our role models? These are our children's role models? Do these people have children? If there is any question that this country is in terrible moral danger, the Polanski case and his supporters should easily make the case for the need to reevaluate ethics and morals. THanks to everyone in this blog, except a few, who have not lost their moral compass.


Judy   October 2nd, 2009 12:47 am ET

Mr. Martin, you are very talented with writing because you put into words what most civilized and sane people felt since this fiasco with Roman Polanski started.

You kind of have to wonder about the Hollywood "stars" that support him...are they into having sex with under age children too?


Adam   October 2nd, 2009 12:47 am ET

Perfectly stated, seems odd that 32 years have diluted the realities of what really happened.


Michael   October 2nd, 2009 12:47 am ET

I cannot imagine you writing the same kind of scathing editorial about a black man doing the same thing, ala R. Kelly. While I have tremendous respect for you, Roland Martin, and think that you are brilliant and always read everything you produce, I want to make my point. You step out of your way to step on this man, who has not done any crime for over 30 years, it is hard for me to look at the article without a critical eye. Would you make the same article about R. Kelly, or any other influential black man, say if Spike Lee raped a 13-year old? No, you wouldn't. I would like you to write more of your usual articles that I enjoy and less snide spitting on a man while they're down.


Steve   October 2nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

No one is above the law, no matter how famous or talented they might be. Polanski needs to serve his time in jail for what he did. Hollywood, get your priorities straight!
Thank you Roland for stating the obvious!


Steve   October 2nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

Just a quick note to ladyjatbay....Michael Jackson was never convicted...I do believe he was guilty, but he was never convicted...THIS man was convicted, and for ANYONE including hollywood stars to say let it go is unbelievable. Artistic or not, genius or not, he is a convicted rapist. He should serve his time. Those who are famous, or have money are not above the law. It may have been the 70's (peace and love) but laws are laws, you do the crime you do the time. I would fully expect to go to prison if I had sex with a 13 year old, why shouldn't he????


TO   October 2nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

Nice work Roland. This is what 99.9% of the rest of the population thinks. I'm agnostic so it has nothing to do with religion to me. I'm just tired of the hollywood types getting away with things that the average guy cannot. I don't care how long it's been, he needs to serve the time for the crime he committed. I get the same feeling reading about this issue as I do when the hollywood idiots start claiming they'll leave the country when a republican gets elected to office (I wish they would actually follow through). What a effing joke.. I'm a REALLY good engineer, but if I did what he did, there wouldn't be ANYONE standing up for me.. He should finish his life in jail..


Jordan   October 2nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

Well done Roland. The fact that you even had to write this article is an indictment on the state of Hollywood morals.


Erik   October 2nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

You are absolutely right Roland.


Tam   October 2nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

Thank you Roland! I have spent much of the week being terribly disappointed in these Hollywood "stars."


Robert Johnson   October 2nd, 2009 12:49 am ET

Forget the rape issue. He was on trial and ran!!! How would anyone else be treated in this situation? Jail time. Justice for all.

PS Sorry for the victim and the news coverage. But that is all Polanski's fault. If he was man enough to do the time, it would be over.


Informed   October 2nd, 2009 12:49 am ET

Just because you dont think Polanski should be further prosecuted doesnt mean youre 'pro rape' or 'pro jewish' or any of that garbage. Polanski pled guilty, served the agreed upon time (which i agree was way too short) and only fled when the corrupt judge announced he wasnt going to honour the original deal. Polanski didnt flee to prevent being sentenced, he had already served what he was supposed to! The miscarriage of justice lands squarely at the feet of the original judge. He agreed to too soft a sentence,and then tried to renege on it- TWICE! How can anyone trust the US legal system when the judge lies! (the judge was eventually fired for his misconduct in this case). I hate what Polanski did, but he was entitled to a speedy,fair trial- he got neither. Epic fail on the US legal system.


Nathalie Page   October 2nd, 2009 12:51 am ET

I totally agree with Mr. Martin regarding this terrible situation. More people need to stand up for what is right. This man raped a 13 year old and has not paid the price for his crime. It's about time to stand up and be counted. He needs to be extradited back to the U.S. and be accountable for his misdeed.


ddp   October 2nd, 2009 12:51 am ET

Things Hollywood should stay out of because they're idiots- A- politics and B-the justice system.
Time and time again Hollywood proves that being popular does not make up for being inept. They think they're far more important and smart then they are.


LIGHTNING   October 2nd, 2009 12:52 am ET

Rape is rape and it's wrong! I'd like to know all the Hollywood stars that supports Roman Polanski because apparently they support rape too.


Brian Burns   October 2nd, 2009 12:53 am ET

Wow, someone in the media is awake, too! I agree, rapists should go to jail!


Paul   October 2nd, 2009 12:53 am ET

A 13 year old cannot give consent. Period. Discussions about what her mother did, or weather the child should have known better are at best asinine. He was an adult who abused a 13 year old girl, and needs to pay for it. He plead guilty, and the facts of the case are not really in dispute–he had sex with a 13 year old. He took pictures of her naked (child porn). Think about that for a moment. She was 13. He was an adult, and he used her for sexual gratification. I feel for the victim, and I wish that the media would leave her alone–but I still want Polanski to die in jail for what he did. I can't freaking believe that Hollywood backs him on this. He freaking RAPED someone and has never shown remorse or any recognition that what he did was wrong.


Ernst   October 2nd, 2009 12:54 am ET

Those of you who think that this is a Hollywood-only phenomenon ... where some famous man gets way more latitude than some no-name-average-joe, you are delusional. This kind of stuff happens in politics all the time, and it happens in any tight nit group of powerful individuals. They protect their own, no matter how blatant the violations.

Republicans protected Bush for 8 years despite 9/11, torture, Iraq, Valerie Plame, Katrina, etc ... Sound familiar?

It is the same game. Don't kid yourself.


ODngle   October 2nd, 2009 12:55 am ET

What does the 13 year old have to say about it now? I like the angry mob scene here, its very dramatic and emotional. I think you all are very good at exposing your feelings about these things. Lynching can't be far off. Which is fine with me. I think angry is good for America and for the flag. Its time to get angry and take it out on people like Polanski and OJ, the teachers who have sex with their students and then get pregnant and marry them after they get out of jail. I think we need to start more name calling and bring Christianity into the 21st century with more hate filled words of condemnation just the way Jesus wanted it, hate monger that he was, be cause he taught let god forgive we don't have to; right? Hmmmm. Polanski's slimy maybe, but let the victim speak on the matter. Unless you've got a law degree and have studied the case thoroughly, you don't know crap, so shut the hell up.


Winkzilla   October 2nd, 2009 12:55 am ET

Hollywood is no different than the Republicans. Both are self-absorbed and out of touch. Both live in fantasy worlds. Both make their livings off of it. This is not a back handed way to jab the Republicans, but to point out that we have craziness throughout our American society. One wants extreme individualism, the other extreme community. In the end, it is about power and money.


A Craig   October 2nd, 2009 12:56 am ET

I surely would like to hear the adolescent narcissists of Hollywood calculate how many children should be "gifted" to the next "famous filmmaker" who's had a hard life. Should the number be calculated on the basis of how many painful years the rapist has had? The opening weekend gross on his latest film? How about we calculate the number of children to be sacrificed as the product of the rapist's number of hard years multiplied by the child's height in meters, divided by an integer equivalent to one-tenth the child's parent's IQ? What in the name of God is wrong with these people? We hold bartenders who give a beer to a teenager to a higher standard in determining that child's age than we do cowardly middle-aged men who choose to rape children. Children cannot give consent to have sex because they are not yet capable of the thought processes necessary to understand the consequences (both long- and short-term) of the act. I'm not terribly surprised at some of the West Coast people, but I am astonished and disappointed at Whoopie Goldberg. I had always thought she was an intelligent, informed, compassionate adult. Guess I was wrong. But God bless Chris Rock for what he said tonight on Leno. Roland Martin and Chris Rock - two real Men. Glad we still have folks like this around. Count me in on the boycott!


Michael Wallace   October 2nd, 2009 12:56 am ET

Woody Allen is protesting the arrest? Of course this is not shocking considering his track record: he kept nude photos of Mia Farrow's adopted daughter while was in a long term relationship with Farrow and lived with them both. Also, he was accused by Farrow of having molested their adopted daughter Dylan when she was 7 years old. Allen's only biological son, Ronan Farrow says he cannot see or have a relationship with Allen because Allen is married to his sister which he considers immoral.

What a great supporter you have Mr. Polanski.


TQP   October 2nd, 2009 12:57 am ET

Thank you for the well written article. I could not agree more. If their daughter was the victim, would Martin Scorsese, Harvey Weinstein, Debra Winger, Michael Mann, Woody Allen, and Mike Nichols defend Polanski?.


Michelle   October 2nd, 2009 12:57 am ET

Amen! Thank you for stating the obvious. Bet all those folks wouldn't be justifying his behavior if it were their 13 year old daughter that he raped!


Michelle   October 2nd, 2009 12:58 am ET

Bottom line is that when an adult man has sexual relations with a 13-year old girl, it's rape. It doesn't matter whether it was violent or not. Our laws recognize that a girl that age is not mature enough to make that decision for herself, and when an adult takes advantage of that immaturity, it's rape. The man doesn't get special treatment simply because he's a celebrity, or because it's been 30 years since the case went to trial. It's wrong. And for the record, there's no distinction between rape and "rape-rape", whatever that is.


Oascar Q   October 2nd, 2009 12:59 am ET

It's about time that someone who has a NATIONAL voice wrote something like this about Polanski....What are we teaching our kids when HOLLYWOOD is publicly criticizing the prosecutors about time and rape?. Since when did TIME make it okay to rape someone? Just because it happened over 30 years ago, it still makes it RAPE, it still happened. Just because he has $$ does not make it right.!!! How bout that Debra Winger? UNBELIEVABLE!!! What a BOX OF ROCKS she is!!!! I will no longer support Winger, Allen, Scorsasie, Goldberg, Mann, Nichols at the movies....Hollywood? No, IT'S HOLLYWEIRD!!!!!


Odisyorker   October 2nd, 2009 12:59 am ET

Roman Polansky is a coward and Hollywood is sick.


Mike   October 2nd, 2009 12:59 am ET

Amen Brother. Thank you. Can't believe there is even any thought of "grey area" here – how shameful of those Hollywood folks.


State Fan   October 2nd, 2009 1:00 am ET

Wonderful article!


california mom   October 2nd, 2009 1:00 am ET

Mr. Martin, two words...thank you. Such a sane, well written piece. I was raped at age 14, no one believed me, had my back, fought to defend me. The man is free to this day. Now, as a mother of a teenage girl it is disheartening to see so many big Hollywood names trying to excuse, downplay, and fight for this rapists case. Hollywood is backing a rapist. Hollywood is in our children's faces. What a sad message. There are many kinds of rape–but the simple fact is–rape is rape. It is criminal and it does stay with the victim of that act. Crimes against children should not be shoved under the rug. People, do you realize that this is a crime happening at such an alarming rate in this country. We shrug so much off. Protect the children. There are professionals that can judge whether the child is truthful or not, but don't automatically say that they are lying. I was told that I was lying, but truthfully, I was a painfully shy child that never spoke up against anything. But, I was not lying. I lived in fear for many years, the man threatened to kill my family if I told. Even still today, 25 years later, I have that fear deep down and I fear for my children. Adults are responsible for protecting, teaching the next generation what is okay and what most definitely is not, and creating better laws to keep children safe. I beg everyone to think and re think this one. A criminal act happened. The criminal act was against a child. Next time it could be your child.


David   October 2nd, 2009 1:00 am ET

As a Christian? Roland? Are you serious? You sound more like an "eye for an eye" type guy in this piece and one who definitely missed the advice of your lord who mentioned something about "judge not lest ye be judged". You may be a Christian in name but clearly you have yet to be one completely in spirit. However seeing you as just a regular American reporter who wants to see justice served, I don't disagree with you.


Nikki   October 2nd, 2009 1:00 am ET

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?polanski&1

This is the online petition to "Bring Roman Polanski to Justice". If Hollywood is signing a slimy petition to let him off the hook, we should sign a petition to make sure justice prevails.


wesley   October 2nd, 2009 1:01 am ET

wow! woody allen believes roman shouldn't go to jail. now that is funny. a man who ends up marrying his adopted daughter believes that a 40-ish man that rapes a 13 year old girl should not go to jail. think about that one!!!


JEA   October 2nd, 2009 1:01 am ET

First time to ever post on cnn.com. All I have to say is AMEN!


richard   October 2nd, 2009 1:01 am ET

so the fact that the judge was about to violate the law for his personal fame gets disregarded? the judge had unlawful communication with a prosecutor that was not involved in the case, and was about to invalidate the plea agreement he himself signed. this was done to spare the victim to have to testify. the judge did not care and now we continue to invade this woman's privacy for our own lurid fascination.

the author here does not understand that there are degrees of rape. this one would fall under statuary, as the victim herself blames her mother more than Polanski. also the other people in the house at the time did not believe that the victim was as young as she was until the arrest. meaning that Polanski did not "force himself" as the author wants you to believe.


Tim   October 2nd, 2009 1:01 am ET

At least the whole world has not lost sight of reality, thank you for condemning this lowlife.


Stephanie   October 2nd, 2009 1:01 am ET

Thank you, Mr. Martin, for the well-thought-out commentary. He raped a child and needs to face the music. In response to the comments of Christine Farley – well said!


Tina   October 2nd, 2009 1:02 am ET

Peter –

There is no difference between rape and intercourse with a minor.
Idiot.

Well put, Roland.


Michelle   October 2nd, 2009 1:02 am ET

@ Peter – having sex with a minor IS rape. And your defense of it is really scary.


Belinda   October 2nd, 2009 1:03 am ET

Right on! You are totally right! This man is a terrible person. He is a rapist. I hope he dies in prison.


Jen   October 2nd, 2009 1:03 am ET

This is for Matt @ October 1st, 2009 8:13 pm ET

Maybe its you who needs to get the facts straight. Tt seems like you're the one missing the lesson. Roman ADMITTED to having sex with this girl. How is it that she is lying? If he was so innocent, why accept the plea deal. He had enough money and had enough friends behind him to beat the charges from those so called accusations. If its so-called teachers like you teaching our kids how to read and comprehend articles and such, maybe you need your license revoked.


Samuel Madsen   October 2nd, 2009 1:03 am ET

Mr. Martin:

You ask of the Hollywood types who are defending Polanski "Do any of these people have any idea how stupid, narcissistic and sick they sound?" The simple answer is no; they don't. They are constantly being told they are the smartest, most beautiful, most talented and otherwise most important people on the planet. Therefore they have long since decided that they are above the moral standards that the vast majority of people on this planet live by.

Wouldn't it be great if this sortid affair "the elites" reaction to it began to break the cult of celebrity that has so long dominated our culture?


Amazed Everyday   October 2nd, 2009 1:04 am ET

Folks the moral compass fell of the Hollywood bandwagon years ago. Yet we should blame ourselves for fueling these moral dilemmas by patronizing movies - such as from the accused? I am personally amazed how anyone can come out and say it is alright to drug and rape a 13 year old. I don't care how many years have passed. The victim - is still a victim because our justice system did not do the right thing and put this scum bag away years ago - understandable that as this drags on she just wants it to go away. It would have - had our courts did the right thing. As for now Roland is spot on - put this guy in jail where he belongs - take out adds that show the faces of the directors and movie stars that lobby for him and paste comments that they think it's alright to rape 13 year old children. How young is too you for these misfits of our society. If you think they are out of line - put them out of business - stop paying to see their movies – I know I will.


Alan   October 2nd, 2009 1:04 am ET

It escapes me how these Hollywood types would seemingly hand over their 13 year old daughter for the same treatment. That is their logic.... He is a sex offender and should be requeired like ANY OTHER person that is convicted of unlawful sex with a minor – go to prison, get out at some point and wear an ankle monitor for a few years and remain on the sex offender registry for the rest of his life. Same as anyone else. If a Catholic priest does it, he is villified without compunction. Hollywood would seem to be ok with Warren Jeffs ( or any other polygamous sect) having sex with (marrying) underage girls using their logic.
Using Hollywood logic – They should just let Charlie Manson out since his crime was so long ago as well. I'm sure Roman is over the death of Sharon Tate by now, so the courts should be over it as well. They should also give a free pass to Brian David Mitchell who kidnapped and raped Elizabeth Smart for 9 months. Oh wait, that was "rape, rape" right Whoopi?? Set Roman Free – (in the prison yard) I guess Roman is so "unique" there really is no moral equivelant so based on that alone, he should be left alone. My sarcassm runneth over...


Terra   October 2nd, 2009 1:05 am ET

Thank you! You have articulated most of the points well in this case and I am glad that I am not the only one appalled and sickened by this total miscarriage of justice.
Additional points I would like to make:
1) Polanski – you got a SWEET deal the first time around – I so wish it could be voided and you could be tried under current laws on child rape – you would DIE in prison!!! Or perhaps you could do a documentary from the inside – God knows we don't want to lose the gifted talent for touching the soul through film – what are the odds that Deb Winger will play your stalwart supporter from the outside?
2) the 13 year old was NOT your one and only 'mistake' – what about your ongoing penchant for YOUNG girls while you were on the run in France? Does the name Natasha K ring a bell – you old pedophile – you just moved to a new country – I can hardly wait for the rest of the victims of your twisted appetites to start emerging from the shadows. I hope there will be a class action lawsuit that will tie up your estate for years!
Thanks for voicing the silent rage for us Roland!


Dick   October 2nd, 2009 1:06 am ET

Right on fellah. Throw the whole bunch in jail. They can watch their R-rated movies 16 hrs a day for a few years until they are so bored they beg for my off-key singing. Dick


Alan   October 2nd, 2009 1:06 am ET

Absolutely correct Mr. Martin.

Please will someone put these people on the air and ask them what they would do to a man if it was their daughter? I never have watched one of his movies and I never will. Looks like I want be watching a few of the others movies or shows either. Ridiculous!

Thank you,
Alan


Michael   October 2nd, 2009 1:07 am ET

It's pitiful to see so many ignorant people come out in full righteous indignation. As soon as someone says "rape," they all get fired up, even having no knowledge of the situation.

Those who believe in compassion are capable of looking past a crime, to see it for what it is.

What Roman did was wrong - I don't think anyone will dispute that. The real question is whether there is any sense or justice served in imprisoning him. This affair has been dragged through the mud for many years, and both Roman and the girl have been made victims many times over. Neither of them wants him to be imprisoned, and he is not a danger to society.

Given this particular case, it is very likely that the public and US Justice system are the biggest culprits- they caused Roman's fleeing & exile, they caused many more problems for the girl in this case (who is constantly being defined by one painful moment in her life). Will everything be okay once he goes to prison? Will this deter people in the future? Will justice have been served?

Please don't spread such hatred with your indignation.


Marie   October 2nd, 2009 1:09 am ET

Justice isn't about satisfying the victim. Maybe she has moved on and forgiven him but that doesn't mean that justice was served.
As a rape survivor, I am appalled by the way that rape is justified. I agree with Roland in that if it were a Hollywood starlet that had been raped, nobody would have been signing petitions and asking for the rapist's freedom. Disgusting.


Rachel   October 2nd, 2009 1:10 am ET

I think many of you are confused about the definition of "justice." Justice is not about making the victim happy. Yes, it is unfortunate that Samantha Geimer's name has been dragged through the mud, but sadly it is not her decision to make it go away. This isn't Polanski v. Geimer, this case is Polanski v. the Los Angeles Court of Law.

For those of you who say that Polanski has done nothing criminal in 30 years, how do you know? It's possible that he has other victims no one knows about. What's the point in coming forward if your rapist will not only go free, but be lauded and defended in the public eye?


Michele Himes   October 2nd, 2009 1:10 am ET

I disagreed with you regarding the presidential election vehemently, but on this YOU ARE RIGHT ON! This is PROOF that there is a societal handbakset somewhere, and I know that somewhere is HOLLYWOOD! I want every one of them to have someone in their 40's take one of their children or grandchildren at age 13, and offer to do this depraved activity with them? We'll see how that ends up. UGH!!! Every movie or peice of work involving these sick people will be boycotted!


James   October 2nd, 2009 1:12 am ET

Just touching on one thing people are saying over and over again. Give up with the boycott. You know you're not going to do it. In three, four months when this has all blown over, you're going to be in a video store or in line at the multiplex... and suddenly you're going to see the Weinstein Brothers logo before the movie starts. Or that Natalie Portman plays a role, or Tilda Swinton. You're going to tell me that you're going to stop the DVD or walk out of the movie based on principle?

Don't buy it, folks. Just sayin'.


Donna   October 2nd, 2009 1:13 am ET

When I read that Woody Allen is one of Polanski's supporters, I almost laughed out loud. I guess birds of a feather really do flock together. I wonder how Polanski's other Hollywood supporters would feel if the victim had been one of their daughters or someone else they know. What this world famous director did was horrible, and he should be punished even if the crime happened more than 30 years ago.

To the poster who implied that the victim lied, I don't think she did given that Polanski admitted to at least one of the charges. And, if you notice, all these years later he's not saying he didn't do it.

We are right to question not only Hollywood's morality but also those of the people who want to be near them. So far I haven't heard any comments from the victim's parents. Who in their right mind would leave their 13 year old daughter with grown ass men no matter how famous they are?!


Vince   October 2nd, 2009 1:13 am ET

Are all Hollywood folks so out of touch or do they just consider themselves above the law? If that was Whoopie's 13 yr old daughter, would she be of the same opinion? If it was Debra Winger's 13 yr old sister, wold she be writing a letter for his release?


NIta   October 2nd, 2009 1:13 am ET

Amen Roland! What the heck is wrong in this country when two innocent parents who take bath time photos of their kids are treated like perverts but yet this disgusting man who ADMITS to raping a child gets sympathy from those idiots who either want to be in his films or profit from them or get the free publicity resulting from being a part of this? And what I find truly worse is that if this man does get to start making films again in this country, they will be blockbusters fueled by the attendance of flocks of reality TV fans, celeb-a-holics and those who think he is the "in" thing because of this. Remember in Hollywood any free press, even when it's negative is good and profitable. DISGUSTING! Until we start fighting back with our pocketbooks, this will continue. I love Martin Scorsese films, but I guarantee you I have seen the last one because of this.


David   October 2nd, 2009 1:13 am ET

PA makes a great point and I wonder if anyone commenting on this alias really cares as much about helping the victim heal as they do wishing the defendent is punished. That same kind of reckless disregard for others is exactly the thought process that Mr Polanski had to go through before he raped a minor: he didn't care about the victim just like many people on this alias don't really care about her now. So how does it feel to be "emotionally" raping this victim again those of you who want Polanski punished? Looks like a case of the pot calling the kettle black yet again. Well spoken PA...


Ben of Annexia   October 2nd, 2009 1:14 am ET

-I apologize ahead of time, this is going to seem like a very vile and sick post and it is-

I'm sick of the "Statutory" nonsense and the modern Witch Hunt for "Child Porn", "Pedophiles", etc...

Don't get me wrong, if a sicko kidnaps, rapes, murders... Well he's committed crimes already and that's up to the courts to prove.

But enough with this enshrinement of children. I am SO sick of this garbage. It's just a "Witch Hunt" so the local Baron can pretend someone else is at blame when people starve because he had to redecorate his palace. They don't care if the economy is collapsing or if children grow up in foster homes or tents, but oh woe, Chester the Molester is at large.

Now, imagine the unthinkable: Legalize Pedophilia and Kiddie Porn, though of course other laws apply. (you can't kidnap, kill, etc. without the law coming down hard).

1. Kiddie Porn. In these desperate times, lil Jenny can keep the family living indoors if she goes streaking while "Uncle" Larry Flynt takes pictures. And, due to "Child Star" laws, half will wait in a trust fund for her when she's 18. She does a few pictures during summer vacation, the family lives indoors, she's not recognizable in a few years due to normal healthy growth and come 18 she has college money for something she doesn't remember.
2. Existing CP on the net. Let it be on "Official" sites only, that then charge a reasonable rate, ask further "Donations" from previous "lawbreakers" and the profits generated go to known existing "Victims" and the "Unknown" stuff goes to children's funds.
3. Even legal, I wouldn't want to be a pedo, though typing this obviously makes it look like it... They could at least go to shrinks to try to work out their problems without automatically being put on a "Pariah" list for admitting the "ThoughtCrime".
4. Sex tours. The kids can wash themselves off and the family will live for months. Vile and sick, but better than starving to death.
5. "Adoptions". Until recent witch hunts plenty of "Foreign Adoptees" were indeed raised by pedos who got them off the street. Most of them grew up OK and would have starved to death otherwise. It's not that foreign "Adoptions" of this nature aren't done, but if allowable openly the kids would have a chance, not 'grow up' in a "Basement Dungeon"...

-and-
6. Actual "Rape" and worse- Let's get this straight: With the laws as they are right now, which would you rather go to jail for? Child rape – our – Murder. Real "Devil's Choice", granted. However, most would choose by far Murder. So, therefore if some sicko does rape a child, well... That does explain the increase in killings. NO, it does NOT justify it, but it is a sick reality.

Back 30 years ago when most got off with a "Slap on the Wrist" most pedos didn't hurt kids at all, outside of the "Main Issue". Since it was just a "Statutory" issue, if there was no real kidnapping, violence, etc. the could get away with it and if they got too unpopular move to another town. Now, they are less than untouchables in India. Again I do NOT justify it at all by this, but frankly there seems to be far more violence and murders now due to this. These "Registry" laws, btw, will be overturned in a few years. Too many real criminals using these things as excuses to rob and kill people on the list, assuming authorities will ignore and juries will overturn.

-I apologize for this post must look like that of a real sick "Troll"-
--And I'm sure some are shouting mad, reading this-
--I don't blame you, but please read on, there is a point to this-
--And, NO, I'm not into KIDS...ick...

But we do have too much "Reactionary" behavior these days. We don't care if there's a problem till it hurts us and then we react to the symptoms. Those who call for reacting to the root cause are called part of the problem. "He disagrees with our Witch Hunt!? Witch! Witch! Witch!!!"

Why would anyone, especially people who work hard enough to kill two Americans be desperate enough to sell children to such a trade? In many ways a lot of things America did during the Cold War and then Corporations afterwords created the dire poverty people find themselves in unjustly and the "Charity" that comes is in the hands of religious people who only care about "Converting" then leave them to starve or petty officials or goes to "Token" charity organizations. What's done is done, how can we improve things?

And, last but certainly not least, instead of screaming for the police to beat the bushes for "Chester the Molester" why not make sure you have enough free time so you and your spouse can watch the kid 24/7?

Why DO people accept this growing poverty and desperation that takes away their very lives just so they can, perhaps, live indoors a few more months if nothing else goes wrong?

Strike, unionize, call for "A decent day's pay for a decent day's work" and time for friends and especially family. No more shipping jobs overseas and paying for the losses with tax money. That's raping us all. There's a difference between rightist propaganda on "Lazy Unions" and the real cause for their worth.

Our country's rich elite are SO rich, can't they afford to pay their workers at least enough to live a modest comfortable life? One where they aren't always getting more and more hungry, desperate and scared? Enough time to even be with their kids and protect them and educate them?


Cara   October 2nd, 2009 1:15 am ET

Matt protests the innocence of the guilty far too vehemently. And he isn't even clear on the facts. Mr. Polanski admitted guilt. Pleaded to it. And it wasn't his home - it was the home of Jack Nicholson who was away at the time. But his then girlfriend Angelica Huston was there, making her, it would seem, somewhat complicit in the events. A very nasty business that many adults carry full responsibility for.


Dave M   October 2nd, 2009 1:15 am ET

I can't believe how quickly mass media can rally up uninformed gossip starved jump to conclusion screamers ..and one very good story teller from CNN making dramatic references to rape of Hollywood starlets. Martin this case is so different in so many ways- this is not your actual forced down rape of a malicious pedophile as you refer to him, this is not the Kobe case where he raped and shut the mouth of the victim with money. This is a case of a mother willingly sending her daughter for money and lying about her daughters age to model for these drunk Hollywood topdogs. This is a girl who became woman who doesn't want to be a victim again and has forgave Polanski because she knew the situation and circumstances of this even weren't entirely truthful. I know you're all saying what if you had a daughter would you feel the same way. I know that if I or you had a son and if he had a party and a girl who was 13 posed to be 18 and he had consented sex with him you wouldn't be screaming rapist if the girl herself was forgiving and understanding enough to acknowledge that he is NO rapist. So stop dragging palanski and the poor victim through the mud Martin i know this is the only story you can write to get any type of positive attention from many of your misinformed clueless readers. Sometimes things are not as black and white as you make them out to be.


William E. Owens Jr   October 2nd, 2009 1:15 am ET

Personally, I could have done without the Christian rhetoric; theists do not hold a monopoly on morality.

Nonetheless, I am compelled to agree with the Mr. Martin's analysis of the situation.

After watching this story unfold for the last few days, I have noted that many of Mr. Polanski's supporters quote the victim's desire to to lay the issue to rest, as sufficient reason to release him and dismiss the case.

I would like to make several points that regarding this line of reasoning:

1. In criminal cases it is the State that prosecutes the alleged criminal, not the victim.

2. The victim in this case was a 13 year old girl, not the adult woman who does not wish to relive this experience.

3. Convicted criminals are sentenced in order to either: A. rehabilitate the criminal, B. punish the criminal, C. protect society from the criminal, D. make a statement to members of society that this is what occurs to those who commit such acts, E. to reduce the probability that either this criminal or any other person will commit similar acts in the future.

Thus, although I empathize with the victim's desire to move on, the State and general public have an interest in sentencing Mr. Polanski A. to punish him for committing a heinous act against a 13 year old girl, B. to make a statement to society and other would be rapists that these types of acts will not go unpunished, and C. to make an effort reduce the probability that that either Mr. Polanski or others will commit similar acts in the future.

While we cannot guarantee that punishing Mr. Polanski will cause either him or others to refrain from perpetrating crimes of this nature, we can most certainly punish the perpetrators and put others on notice that committing these acts will result in the administration of punishment.


RB   October 2nd, 2009 1:15 am ET

Martin is correct; Chris Rock was correct on Jay Leno tonight; Schwarzenneger is correct; America is correct. The Hollywood Petitioners are dead wrong.

Keep every fact from Polansky's story intact but take away the fact that his "art" is respected by many influential Hollywoodites. Would the Hollywoodites petition for his release then? I have not been this infuriated by a news story in a long time...


Liza   October 2nd, 2009 1:16 am ET

Thank you for expressing so clearly the thoughts and frustration that many people feel over Mr. Polanski's ability to escape the consequences of his crimes. I am especially disgusted with the comments by other actors who are coming to his defense. What in the WORLD was Whoopi Goldberg thinking when she said that!???????


Brian   October 2nd, 2009 1:17 am ET

I am relishing a long prison sentence for this rapist, what a contrast in lifestyles it will be for him. Sure hope the extradition goes thru, the sooner the better. Roland, you should run for office someday, I agree with all of your commentaries, well done!


Juriart   October 2nd, 2009 1:18 am ET

I am sure that if it was any of their 13 year old daughter that was raped, those celebrities would still be as supportive and forgiving of Roman. People in Hollywood, as we all know are, the moral center of the country and if they say Roman is cool, than we should all follow. We'll sign a petition to show the world how wrong it is to condemn someone that suffered in life for any crime. It is a very strong message that we will send our kids if Roman is allowed to get away with such a crime ONLY because he is a celebrity.


Ann Thomas   October 2nd, 2009 1:19 am ET

Polankski broke the law and took full advantage of his star power to dodge facing up to his actions for 32 years. It is horribly wrong what he did to that little girl, even if she now says she does not want him to face charges. He raped a CHILD and he ran away and hid like a coward. He should be put in jail and HOLLYWOOD...LISTEN UP! YOU ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW!!!!!

Hollywood needs some morals and values. To endorse this man, to stand behind him after raping a child and running from it most of his life is 100% wrong. I'd love to know what each of them would think if this were their child.


Dion   October 2nd, 2009 1:19 am ET

Thank You Roland!!!!
I am absolutely disgusted with these freaks who support a rapist! Boycott all works by any of these disgusting individuals backing RP. I am so surprised by the women standing up for this disgusting human. Hello Whoopi, Rape is Rape. Woody Allen should just go away, leave, leave, leave, he makes me SICK!! What a bunch a LOSERS!!


James   October 2nd, 2009 1:19 am ET

Oh, and since the victim doesn't want to go through this all again, he's going to get a pleaded-out sentence for Flight From Prosecution. Just like a lot of other whites, blacks, Asians, Latinos who live lives below the poverty level. It's the truth. Yes, he did a horrifying thing. Yes, he's plead guilty. Yes, he deserves punishment. But let's not pretend that we're a lynch mob here, people. He's going to get it. But then all the decrying of the American Justice System will begin anew. Meet the new boss... same as the old boss.


jon gadel   October 2nd, 2009 1:19 am ET

great great commentary, roland

thank you!


Gretl   October 2nd, 2009 1:20 am ET

I agree Roland!!! AND this DA was my criminal law professor in LA!


Spider   October 2nd, 2009 1:20 am ET

Michael Hsu-

What??????

How in the world do you get an argument for racism out of this article?
I bet you're one of those who screams "racism" every time someone disagrees with President Obama.

You are right, the history books do have a lot of examples of black men being hung for raping white girls. But, if people like you will leave it alone, "history" will be the operative word. The history books also have examples of slavery and integration. Those things can be referenced only in the history books. Thank God.

The point here, if you knew how to read Michael, is that the Hollywood elite evidently feel they are, somehow, above the law due to their artistic contributions to the world. They are sadly mistaken and, I for one, hope this Hollywood slime is extradited back to the US and sentenced to jail for the rest of his Jew life.

By the way, Michael, that last line was racist.


Jennifer   October 2nd, 2009 1:20 am ET

Amen!!! You are absolutely right. This is an outrage that this man has lived a life of luxury and never paid for his crime. What gall that he would even asked to be released. Totally unacceptable behavior, from crime through present.


Ebooboo   October 2nd, 2009 1:21 am ET

Peter,

Right on. Said exactly what I was thinking.

Americans are so predictable.

Soon to be an ex-pat, myself.

So tired of this lynch-mob mentality.

Boy, if these people ever heard Thich Nhat Han,

their brains would explode. But, their hearts wouldn't

open.


Cindy   October 2nd, 2009 1:22 am ET

Thank you Thank you Thank you!!! I am so tired of hearing that he shouldn't be arrested because of the wonderful, beautiful movies he makes. Honestly, they are JUST MOVIES. He knew what he was doing, pled quilty and ran for all these years.

PS: I am still trying to figure out how Woody Allen is not in jail.


Brad   October 2nd, 2009 1:23 am ET

We Californians have been disgusted for decades about the double standard for Hollywood versus the everyday folks . It would be a sunny day in L.A. when Polanski is returned for his due justice.


LC   October 2nd, 2009 1:26 am ET

I think hollywood lives in a bubble.. seriously.


mdwilliams   October 2nd, 2009 1:26 am ET

it doesn't matter if the mother showed insanely poor judgment in leaving her 13 year old daughter at Nicholson's house–or even if the mother had some ulterior motive of getting her daughter into the movies via the casting couch. the mother could have dropped her daughter off naked. doesn't matter in the eyes of the law. it is ILLEGAL to have sex with a 13 year old. get it? illegal, period. a 13 year old cannot give consent even if she wants to.

the bottom line here is: Polanski was the adult. he was the one in control and in power. he abused his power in a way so heinous most of us can't even fathom it. he DRUGGED a child in order to make her more sexually compliant. she told him no, repeatedly, and he ignored her. even if she had said yes, it would have been rape. but she said no, which is even worse. she didn't want this, didn't ask for it.

as far as the victim wishing the whole thing would just be dropped–i get that. i get it completely. she's had to live with this her whole life. however, prosecution of such crimes–rape, domestic violence, etc.–is not up to the victim. it's up to the state. this isn't a vendetta, for pete's sake; the man fled to avoid being sentenced. stop making this RAPIST out to be the victim. he's been living the sweet life in Europe for decades. it's time he was held accountable for his crime.


Donna Worden   October 2nd, 2009 1:27 am ET

It is interesting to read all of these comments, yet none of you were child actressess in Hollywood during this period of time. What everyone fails to realize is that young women in Hollywood lie about their ages. . .they lie in order to get parts in television and films. When you are under the age of 18 the School Board requires that you attend 3 hours of school on set. As you begin to mature, the casting agents, directors, and producers realize that many 18 year olds look younger, and can be cast in roles for 13 year olds, etc. and then they don't waste 3 hours a day in school, and then we can also work more than 8 hours a day. To that end it is common practice for school-aged actors to lie about our ages. As one is aspiring to become an actress in Hollywood, to come into contact with a director or a producer, is an absolute dream come true. It could potentialy mean that you will land a part in a major film or television production. During those years that Roman Polanski was in Hollywood it was commonplace for girls under the age of 18 to lie about their ages in order to get parts in films - I being one of them, and my friends, whom many of you see in films and television today, lied about our ages in order to get parts in films. Roman Polanski is a very kind, intelligent, tender man. I know for a fact, because I was one of the "underage" girls that dated him. Another fact that all of you conveniently overlook is , "Where was her mother?" Hollywood mothers are notorious for purshing their daughters and for protecting their daughters. Isn't there some parental responsibility for turning your child loose on a "41 year old man" when your child is 18? Actually there is. All children, under the age of 18, must be accompanied by a parent - or guardian - while they are on set. (I realize this incident happened off set – in a private home, but the parents do share a major part of the responsibility here.) My parents, and most of my friends parents, were at every dance class, interview, singing lesson, play rehearsal, script reading, off set, on set, on studio property and off studio property. When I was 13 my parents drove me to and from all of these places daily. Because all of you hear the age of 13, you automatically think that this person is "underage". Biologically, yes – but we were years older than our biological ages. Don't forget, we are actors and it doesn't stop because the director says "Cut!"


Aleja   October 2nd, 2009 1:28 am ET

I often disagree with you, Mr. Martin, but in this case i agree with you completely. Well done, sir. I am sickened by Hollywood fawning over this pedophile rapist. Thank you for saying what needed to be said.


Ken   October 2nd, 2009 1:28 am ET

Right on Roland!!!!!! There is definitely a double-standard at work here. If John Q. Public did a stunt like Mr. Polanski, he probably would have been hanging from a tree not too long after the fact. And Hollywood wants to defend him because of his artistic merit???? What planet are they on????


Danny   October 2nd, 2009 1:29 am ET

You guys should actually learn about what you are talking about, Roland aint serving out all the facts, don't listen just to some guy say things he think happened, you need to fact-check this, most importantly because he wasn't even convicted of rape, and she wanted the qualludes, and had even ingested them before hanging out with Polanski, she had a history. Whoopi knows whats up.


Jay   October 2nd, 2009 1:29 am ET

Hollywood is full of degenerates who think they are artists. Look at the evil and satanic movies this entire crowd creates, and it is not by accident, they are propagating the sickness that they have inside their hearts. Martin Scorsese. Harvey Weinstein. Debra Winger. Michael Mann. Woody Allen. Mike Nichols, Whoopi Goldberg. Hollywood is completely out of touch with the rest of America, especially Christians and I think it is up to Christians to take back our culture from these degenerates, Yes take back, because this is not the degenerate morals that we endorse. We are a nation of believers in God. Hollywood needs Revival. I call upon all Christians to pray for these lost souls and to bring healing to this land.


Jesse L.   October 2nd, 2009 1:29 am ET

You people need to get off the morality horse and read the details of this story. The girl was sent over to Jack Nicholson's house alone, a place that was known to be a party house. She eventually got drugged up, yeah, but the mother was stone sober when she sent her daughter out the door that night. And I'm sorry, but at thirteen I knew better than to go out alone at night and accept drugs and alcohol from a person thirty years older than me.

Furthermore, the victim herself wants this story to end. Can we not just throw the case out? There's far worse stuff going on in the world today than what Polanski did all those years ago. Just take a deep breath, go to church, pray for Polanski's soul if that makes you feel better, then shut up about it.


qpq   October 2nd, 2009 1:30 am ET

No Martin... you are spot on the damn mark! The only thing you went soft on was leaving out the sodamy part of his sex act with the child and then having sex with 15 year old Natasha Kinski. What age is statutory rape in France?

Michael Jackson was sick but not a pedophile and he as treated worst than polanskee by so many writers.

But you know things are going bad when Woody Allen, you know Woody, the guy that divorced his wife and married his step daughter, comes to your defense. Perhaps polanskee and woody partied together with the kids in Sicklywood back then.

This should be another career type ending spoof for Whoppi, remember her degenerate black slut routine she did with??? that white dude? She bounced back from that after awhile, but this. Her last name is Goldberg though, right?

Thanks go out to theoneandonlyed for giving matt (the freakin idiot) a view of functioning brain cells... and kyle, just read, don't write, that is until you pick up a law book and understand who determines how long convicted rapist stay in jail.


Tom   October 2nd, 2009 1:30 am ET

Thank god someone finally posted an article with some sense in it. I was abused as a child and its sickening to see these celebrities coming out in defense of the man! Do they have no shame?


Michael Gillin   October 2nd, 2009 1:31 am ET

I couldn't agree with you more. I think this is a topic that Republicans, Democrats, Liberals and Conservatives can agree on. Polanski is scum. I just can't understand how some of these Hollywood elites can be so immoral. Hopefully others will let their dissatisfaction known by not buying tickets to their movies – I know I won't


tam   October 2nd, 2009 1:32 am ET

Famous or no famous when you rape a minor your butt will be in the slammer. Sorry to hear about his wife tragedy death and a victim of holocaust. No one above the law even a Movie star, Director and Producer. We are all Human. Live and deal with your crime. Movie star grow up. If that happen to your kid what would you do?


andy c   October 2nd, 2009 1:32 am ET

first of all it was consenual and it was hollywood and youre just a loser by bringing it up and talking about it. would it be right in my own family? would i condone it? no. but your points are way off base. the media keeps saying the word victim and all it does is victimize this lady... and she wants nothing to do with it. the media are the rapists. get a life


katie   October 2nd, 2009 1:33 am ET

Great article, Roland. Thank you.

I am sick of hearing people say that because the victim wants everything dropped, Polanski should be freed. This is not how the criminal justice system works! The victim is not the plaintiff – the State of California is! This is not a civil case, where Ms. Geimer is suing Polanski, and it does not matter that she has moved on.

Furthermore, POLANSKI PLED GUILTY! The LA DA's office has tried numerous times to wrap this case up but Polanski has refused to return to the US. He has been living the good life for 30 years...I hope he enjoyed it.


Bill Bobkins   October 2nd, 2009 1:33 am ET

I'm pretty sure Polanksi knew what he was doing when he went to Zurich. Those that are shocked by this really aren't thinking it through. Switzerland was a country that he knew he couldn't travel to as it is one of the countries that would arrest him. Just as they did with Frank Abagnale.

He also knew the max sentence he faced if he did get arrested and he probably figured that he could successfully fight extradition and serve out his time of 18 months in a cush Swiss Ikea-laden prison eating meatballs and Lingonberries. Seriously. Even if he came back to the states to serve time, he also knew he could defend himself, become acquitted and come back to the US - a place where he has stated many times he wishes he could return to. The benefits of him bringing closure outweigh the arrest for being a fugitive.

The real problem he didn't count on is his fellow celebs making absurd and ridiculous statements that could potentially hurt his chances for leniency. Whoopi Goldberg and the rest may have delivered a death-blow to his defense without realizing it.


Diego   October 2nd, 2009 1:33 am ET

I don't think the facts of the case are indisputable. Polanski has repeatedly denied raping the alleged victim. Prosecutors play this card all the time: the defendant can plead to probation or go to trial and risk facing 99 years in prison. In cases where it's "he said, she said," it's a risk many defendants are not willing to take. Polanski made his plea but the judge reneged on the deal.


wbn   October 2nd, 2009 1:34 am ET

Right on, Roland. We don't always agree, but I'm with you here. I don't hate the guy; I just feel people should not act like it is so sad that he may finally be held accountable. After all these years, he doesn't deserve a life sentence; he does deserve to stand before the law, though. If this was a conservative politician, a minister, a pro-life activist, NOBODY would be sympathetic toward him. He's a great director; he committed rape against a child.


Deb   October 2nd, 2009 1:35 am ET

Michael Jackson was not charged in the 1st 1993 case (not sufficient evidence). In the 2nd case he turned himself in, was handcuffed, and posted 300,000 for the 3 million bail. He went to trial and was aquitted on ALL 14 charges by a jury of his peers. There is no comparison to Polanski's case. He pleaded GUILTY to drugging a 13 yr old with a qualude and alcohol then raping her both vaginally and anally. I'd like to see what Debra Winger and Whoopie would say if it was their grandaughter whom he did this repulsive act to. Shame on you both!!
Hollywood is SOO out of touch with mainstream AMerica it makes me sick!! What happened to moral values and wrong vs right. Polanski's act was clearly wrong irregardless of how long ago he did it.


Tar   October 2nd, 2009 1:37 am ET

Well put!


thomas   October 2nd, 2009 1:40 am ET

what Roman Polanski did was wrong, but i don't believe in Mr Martin or any of you people leaving comments. it's usually you bible waving morons are who culpable of these sorts of crimes


Michael   October 2nd, 2009 1:41 am ET

It's not like Roman was taking a secluded jacuzzi and she jumped into the water to celebrate the photo shoot.....which at that point Roman would have said "Honey, it ain't that kind of party.....I really see some artistic merit in your looks...but I'm too old you're too young".......NO!!!!! – The guy uses emotional warfare, drugs and champaigne to manipulate a young girl into sexual acts.....Not fair.....Deterrence is the key here....Who wants some future sicko thinking he can get away with raping a 13 year old if all he has to do is one day win an academy award.....What's next....letting OJ reduce his prison time trading days for touchdowns made?


Bri   October 2nd, 2009 1:42 am ET

What's next? Can you throw a ball over the plate or can you throw a touchdown pass? Those who defend a self-confessed criminal should be ashamed.


Ken   October 2nd, 2009 1:42 am ET

100% spot on Roland. Very heartening to read such a great and direct commentary. Assuring to also read many still have some semblance of morals and justice in this naiton of laws. Too many are to ready to shrug off violent and preverse crimes. We already have a whole lot of problems due to lowering of standards. If we give Polanski a pass for an admitted rape, no matter when it happened, we're just opening the door to even further lowering our standards.
A nation, a society cannot continue without morals, standards, and following the rule of law. And it's long over due in the clueless rich and famous to become a part of the justice system and this nation that strives to follow the rule of law.


RG   October 2nd, 2009 1:42 am ET

Excluding this excellent article, the sad part is that the media still glorifies Hollywood on countless 24×7 cable and TV programs..............and America keeps tuning-in to these mindless, drug-infested, degenerates ................... I haven't been to a movie in over 10 years and don't have the time or inclination to "weed thru" the garbage to find anything worth watching............... it's almost all infested with their sick and distorted views of society and the world (and in this case, the sick actions of a pervert).


Gayle Wilson   October 2nd, 2009 1:46 am ET

Amen and amen. I'm more amazed by people's reaction to this than what he did in the first place. Flabbergasted.


Katia   October 2nd, 2009 1:46 am ET

Thank you Ronald. I agree with you. These kind of acts against a child can not be forget it. No time no distant can change what happened. People must be responsible for their acts and behaviors. If we start to search excuses in the personal life of people who perpetrate these acts to forgive them nobody should be in jail. Of course people can make mistakes, have problems or personal tragedies. Who in this world has not them. But must be able to accept the punishment for these mistakes too. No matter who you are.


ally   October 2nd, 2009 1:51 am ET

Support Mack all the way!

The victim decides what to do in this case as the time passed and values changed. I can see how easy it was for someone to be lured in by an older man; either party ment any harm; they assumed the situation was appropriate for their imagination come true. She did not suffer other than publicity of the case brought public. People, there are hundreds of cases much worse happening everyday, and maybe to your children, so wake up from the celebrity life and listen to your kids!!!!

Who cares about some old Polanski who lived in a different era of drugs/sex/lax social life alltogether. Live today!!!


Anonymous   October 2nd, 2009 1:52 am ET

Amen, Amen, Amen
Its a travesty that more of these Hollywooders aren't being called out for absurdly blatant favoritism towards a pedophile and sadistic sex offender. Put an anklet on him and make him like 1000 from every school, park, and public place.


bob crane   October 2nd, 2009 1:53 am ET

2 words:
China Town & Citizen Cane, ok 4 words


Berkeley Jeff   October 2nd, 2009 1:53 am ET

I feel the responsibility to add my voice to those saying that I wholeheartedly agree with Mr. Martin (I don't always) on this one. I too am pretty far to the left, and want it known that this is NOT a political issue. Those celebrities on that petition may be mostly to the left, but don't anybody for a second start thinking that lefties as a policy will let someone get away with Polanski's crimes just because he's a great artist, or because three decades have gone by.

The only benefit of the doubt I can give those petition-signers is that they're limited in imagination and this is the only way they can think of to support a close, personal friend. A lot of horrible yet human mistakes have been made in that pursuit.


MMK   October 2nd, 2009 1:54 am ET

Spot on commentary. However, to those making comments "if he were black", "if he were Gentile", etc: it's not about religion or race, it's about WEALTH.


Joe H   October 2nd, 2009 1:54 am ET

Roland

I have disagreed with a lot of things you have said in the past - but your assessment on this is spot on. Polanski needs to extradited and made to serve prison time for his despicable crime. It's not like he spent the last 32 years involved in some sort of charitable endeavor that would atone for his crime. The guy was making movies and living the life of a celebrity. Bottom line, as you so eloquently said, it's time to bring him back here and let him pay for the crime he committed.


Nonameplz   October 2nd, 2009 1:54 am ET

When will Hollywood realize that no one is above the law? Crimes committed by a director are no less severe simply because that individual is famous. He may have been a Holocaust survivor and lost his wife to cruel murder, but unfortunately it is not uncommon for past victims to become abusers.

If the case gets dropped at this point, it will become another case of someone in Hollywood escaping the law.

He has to be arrested.


Marky   October 2nd, 2009 1:55 am ET

This is a very well written article and I couldn't agree more. Polanski did commit a serious crime and the fact that the girl's mother took her there only compounds it. The girl was 13, for goodness' sake! She could not give consent and we all know it. Unless you are a pervert yourself, you have to know he was guilty, even by his own admission. He simply didn't want to pay the price for his crime. It was "rape-rape", by any definition, and I don't care what kind of movies he has made. My 40 yr. old daughter was raped at 10 and she has never truly recovered, even with years of counseling. Polanski isn't even sorry for what he did to her; he just doesn't want to suffer any indignity himself.


Alex   October 2nd, 2009 1:57 am ET

Thank you, Mr. Martin. I'm so glad that someone standing up and speaking out against this lunacy. Normally, I'm a fan of Hollywood, but this is unbelievable to me. As a liberal and a feminist, I find it appalling that the same people that fight for the disadvantaged and underprivilidged are standing here defending such a shameful and horrible act. It boggles the mind.


Julie   October 2nd, 2009 1:59 am ET

THANK YOU ROLAND S. MARTIN!!! Finally there's somebody out there who thinks the same as I do! It was a horrible crime and he should pay. Period.


PRussell   October 2nd, 2009 2:00 am ET

Yes! I agree with you in principal Roland, but this is all staging. Roman Polanski peld guilty to a crime based on a plea agreement. The terms of the plea agreement were not honored which gives him the right to withdraw his plea and go to trial. To go to trial on this serves only LA politics not LA budget concerns. It would be impossible to ge the conviction in LA under these circumstances. The witness is unwilling to come in and the community supports him.


See E   October 2nd, 2009 2:00 am ET

Ah-men!


Theophilus LV, NV   October 2nd, 2009 2:01 am ET

No surprise to me that these Hollywood whackos would rally around this piece of garbage. I'm just surprised they haven't started to use the name of George W. Bush to somehow divert where the blame *really* belongs.


Dee Dee Lynn   October 2nd, 2009 2:01 am ET

La Viro,

Take your nasty anti-semitic rant elsewhere. This has nothing to do with "jews."

In fact, I believe Mr. Polanski's parents were one Jew and one Catholic, and his mother was Catholic, so unless you are a Nazi yourself, he's not a Jew (they were the only ones that considered you a Jew if you had any family member who was–Jews only count you as a Jew if your mother was, and strictly speaking only if she was a practicing, Orthodox Jew).

Polanski never practiced that faith (neither did his parents it seems) and he has declared himself a Catholic at the age of 10.

Moreover, I would bet that statistically more Christians commit rape than Jews simply because they are a statistically more significant percentage of the population.

Rape is a crime that cuts across all demographics.

As for those in Hollywood standing up for him, well they are wrong, but they are standing up for him because he is one of the Hollywood crowd, not because of his religion (even though you got it wrong).


Steve   October 2nd, 2009 2:01 am ET

AMEN!!!


Cinema Lover   October 2nd, 2009 2:03 am ET

Well put Roland!! I love it when a person is so passionate and deeply affected by something they let that passion flow. What I love about this is that it is well thought out, intelligently written and isn't afraid to go for the jugular. CNN needs more people like this. Just to put my two cents in; the man has made some great films but what does that have to do with his crime? He should still go to jail, this is no small crime he committed. There is no in between, no "rape-rape," and that is one of the worst crimes you can commit, save for murder being the worst. It's time to face the music Mr. Polanski.


Wilson   October 2nd, 2009 2:03 am ET

October 1st, 2009 8:13 pm ET

A mother lets her 13yr old child go to a famous Hollywood Directors home….and he is to blame? You people need to grow up. The man is a masterpiece in the making. How many times has a a 13yr old lied? I am a 2nd grade school teacher and children lie all the time….Oh, by the way how many millions did she receive? Hmm….seems funny, she does not want to bring this up anymore….hmm, maybe she lied. Get your facts before you blog.
______________________________________________________
To Matt:
It frightens me that you are a 2nd grade teacher. Fact is, a 13 year old girl was violated by a man old enough to be her father. Disgusting. You sound like the kind of person who thinks if a woman wears a short skirt, she deserves to be raped. I hope you don't have daughters. Roland, good post!!


Jason   October 2nd, 2009 2:06 am ET

Everyone who supports Mr. Roman should be forced to do one of the following:

Offer their 13 year old sister/daughter up for sex with him.

Have sex with a 13 year old girl.

Obviously, to them, such actions are okay. So if you are willing to do that, then you can support Mr. Roman without any objection from me.

Of course, when the police bash down your door and slam you onto the floor and beat your depraved and sick brains out, I will be applauding, but you know, you will have proven that you aren't a hyprocrit on top of being depraved and sick!


Rick   October 2nd, 2009 2:06 am ET

To those actually dumb enough to defend Polanski, he plead guilty.
The victim has no say in the matter once the defendant has entered into a plea agreement.
While I feel for the victim for not wanting this to go on, she only has Mr. Polanski to blame for the renewed attention, not the media.
Had he manned up and faced his sentence, this would be a non-issue.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
Also, a Judge also has no legal obligation to honor any plea agreement made by the DA. They still have the final say on sentencing.
Mr. Polanski should have kept his pants on and he wouldn't be in this situation.

And to anyone blaming the CHILD and/or her mother, shame on you!
The mother may not be up for parent of the year, but that is no excuse for the ILLEGAL acts Mr. Polanksi performed on her CHILD.


Jo   October 2nd, 2009 2:07 am ET

Excellent commentary, hits all the right points. I no longer can stomach going to any movies these Hollywood apologists are involved in. And I agree Whoopi, a supposed feminist, has lost her mind, let's hope it's only temporary and she rethinks her position.


D.E.W   October 2nd, 2009 2:08 am ET

Right On Roland!!! THANK YOU for your incredible article! There is no lower place a person can go, than to dismiss anyone who harms a child!


Pat in IL   October 2nd, 2009 2:08 am ET

Spot on.
Why these people think that talent makes someone above the law is beyond me. That kind of thinking is ridiculous at best, and dangerous at worst.


Vickey   October 2nd, 2009 2:08 am ET

Mr. Martin:
I agree with you 100%. I get the feeling that many who are standing up for Polanaski want us to believe it was just a "small" mistake when he had sex with a 13 year old girl. When a 44 year old man has sex with a 13 year old child it is a crime. This is true whether it is rape or so called "consensual sex." Even though it has been 30 years since he pled guilty, he should still have to serve his time. Maybe then the next adult will think twice before hurting another child.


Evan Barrett   October 2nd, 2009 2:08 am ET

Well said. He committed a pathetic crime, and deserves to be punished as would anyone else. My opinion of him was already in the basement; not because of his art, but because of his behavior. Now my opinion of those supporting him are also in the basement. They should be ashamed of themselves.


Christine Jeffson   October 2nd, 2009 2:09 am ET

You are spot-on, Roland...I was baffled and amazed to hear the words of support coming from various people in the entertainment industry for this man. Yes, I feel sorry for what he suffered in the past, and he is a talented director, but if you commit a crime against a child, you should pay for it. No amount of money, fame or "creative genius" should change that.


dominic   October 2nd, 2009 2:09 am ET

Hollywood is giving everyone of us a licence to RAPE and to recieve a get out of jail free card, we should all take a stand and boycott all movies coming out of hollywood untill they see that their stand on the issue is wrong,dead wrong. IMPRISON POLANSKI FOR LIFE IS THE ONLY ANSWER FOR THIS CRIME.


Colleen Crowley   October 2nd, 2009 2:11 am ET

Thank you for this. I am the mother of two young daugthers and I feel like I have been living in the twilight zone listneing to this ordeal and wondering how I wold ever explain it to my daughters. It is evenmore refreshing coming froma strong male. Thank you so much. Colleen


Jason   October 2nd, 2009 2:12 am ET

What about R.Kelly? Why isn't he in jail? And we have him on tape urinating on underage girls..what makes his case so much different than this one? But yet he's still running around making videos, doing music and no one seems to care...just sick...folks like this don't change...


The Guy   October 2nd, 2009 2:13 am ET

AGRREEED! This isnt a case where she accused and he denied and had profe of denial. She wasnt trying to extort money from him. He abused a little girl. He changed the course of this childs life FOREVER and this little girl's family. Left parents ashamed because they didnt do their job in protecting their child. I dont see what all the fuss is about honestly This guy needs to be extradited to the USA and while that process happens he should stay in jail. His assets should be seized and his passport suspended. When he is brought back he should be sentenced (he already admitted guilt) and should ROT in jail.

The only travesty of justice is that this man has been free for 30 some years instead of being served green balogna and bread courtesy of the U.S. Taxpayer.


Ari Harper   October 2nd, 2009 2:13 am ET

True, the holocaust is not a get out of jail free card, but I'd bet if a jewish columnist were so cavalier about slavery the jesse jacksons and al sharptons would have their career on a platter


LA Doc   October 2nd, 2009 2:13 am ET

Wow, I make it a point to never read anything from CNN or MSNBC, but I'm glad I accidentally came across your article. I probably wouldn't agree with you politically-speaking, but that was a great, concise, and necessary article. Well done. Thanks.


Erik   October 2nd, 2009 2:13 am ET

As one pundit has pointed out, had Polanski been a Catholic priest, he would have been murdered in prison about 30 years ago. As it stands, he's spent 32 years leading the high life. As for the victim's statement that she has moved on, I don't blame her. But this isn't just about her. If Polanski gets off free, it opens the door for anybody to argue that their productive output outweighs the rape of a 13 year old.


Moumita   October 2nd, 2009 2:14 am ET

Amen !


Lysh   October 2nd, 2009 2:15 am ET

Thank you Mr. Martin for stepping up and calling this out for what it is. If those of us who call ourselves "progressive" grimace when we here right-wingers make outrageous accusations (i.e. death panels), then we also need to maintain the same standard with the left wing fringe.


majorghn   October 2nd, 2009 2:15 am ET

All of you have it wrong why those in Hollywood espousing off about Polanski being wrongfully persecuted!!

The old adage "follow the money" is front and center here, make no mistake about it!!

Roman Polanski is still very much a powerful mogul in Hollywood and a big player.......he, and other directors DO keep a proverbial "black book" of who was extra nice to me, who was not, who supports me...who does not in Hollywood!!

Many in Hollywood will lay whatever ethics they do have aside to be cast or even considered a cast member in a movie by the likes of a heavy hitter such as Polanski.....and the older the celebrity or movie star and hungry for a part, the more ethics they will lay aside!!

This of course is not true of all of Hollywood across the board......but slim does rise to the top in Hollywood as it were!!

I kept thinking of what Hollywood would have done if they were around during the time Jesus was making waves.....I truly believe most would have sold him down the river if supporting him would have even had the slightest chance of them being blacklisted!!

What was true then is just as pertinent and true nowadays....nothing has changed!!

Is being just a regular Joe who goes to work everyday and works in the trenches for peanuts (compared to what A list actors make) soooo bad that selling out your very soul to maintain your enormous wealth and fame worth it?

When your dead and gone and standing at the Pearly Gates with no ID (nobody knows who you were or would really care at this point) and empty pockets.....not even a soul to pull out of your pocket to gain admittance.....

For those with a soul please form a separate line.....those with no soul please use the South escalators......yes, the ones that go straight down...that's correct!!

If you hurry down the elevator I heard that their is a good picture show starting at 4:00 P.M. I think it's called "The Devil went down to Georgia" but don't quote me on that....and the former cast members will be signing autographs after the show!!


LisaJeane   October 2nd, 2009 2:16 am ET

Touche' !!! I agree wholeheartedly. The girl said she was disoriented and confused and cried all the way home. It was RAPE. Period. Let him do his time!


Jamie   October 2nd, 2009 2:16 am ET

Roland,
All good, but why did you have to bring up your Christianity to light after all the stories about pedophile priests massaging 13-year old boys?


Lee   October 2nd, 2009 2:17 am ET

I agree that we should respect the victims wishes. However, this case now goes beyond that and involves the safety of others. How do we know that those such as Polansky doesn't do it again? So please stop giving Polansky a pass simply because the victim wants to move on. What if more victims arise because we do NOTHING? Thats what the penal system is for.

As for MATT and all those who feel that we should have the facts before we blog and that this case is not just black and white: ARE YOU CRAZY?!?!? HE ADMITTED TO THE CRIME AND HAS PHOTOS OF THE ACT. I sincerely hope the children in your class are safe...


Dennis   October 2nd, 2009 2:17 am ET

What's wrong with our legal system?

I say, what's wrong with France?!

Does France believe it is okay to have committed such a crime as long as it is not within its borders?

Does France think this is not a crime even in her own borders?

Now we can be certain that France could never be a loyal friend of the USA or anyone else for that matter! Because France does not do what is right and just. It cares only for France and no one else. ie they are the selfish and arrogant country that people have described about them after all.

If countries that harbor terrorists, sponsors of terrorists.
Then what about countries that harbor rapists? Does that mean they support and sponsor rapists?

Martin's article about this is spot on! His article chastising the Hollywood elite is courageous, truthful, and righteous.


nelson   October 2nd, 2009 2:19 am ET

polanski knew he was guilty in the first place that's why he's on the run for years. he don't want to go back to america.


tony mark   October 2nd, 2009 2:19 am ET

Hollywood is racist? Really...Does anyone remember when OJ got away with double murder?


Ericka L   October 2nd, 2009 2:20 am ET

I completely agree with the sentiment and long have been puzzled how anyone could feel otherwise....still don't understand how anyone can think he shouldn't be punished. Did you have to print the victim's name though, even if it wouldn't take much researching to find out.


twinkiepatrol   October 2nd, 2009 2:21 am ET

Dear James,
Don't blog while using illicit substances. It makes you look like a complete idiot.


Max   October 2nd, 2009 2:22 am ET

Again, like in most media-tried cases, people are making conclusions on hearsay and what the media have wanted the public to know... the health care plan is "socialism," Obama was not "born in America," and, well, I wasn't there at the party where a 13-year old girl (who looked older according to MANY people who attended the party), so I will leave the holier-than-thou attitudes to those who don't live in glass houses... I am glad the woman survived the encounter and wish her all the best... I also think Polanski is a great director... that must make me a bad person... good thing we are allowed our views without being judged for them... oh, wait...


Clark   October 2nd, 2009 2:22 am ET

agree wholeheartedly with you Mr. Martin!

but with those of you that say incrementalism won't happen ... this is proof that it will unless enough of us hold the line.

and for those that say this would be a good topic for an ethics class ... you are probably also of the group that says morals can't be taught and imposed on others ... so what set of ethics are you going to use?


JohnPaul2   October 2nd, 2009 2:23 am ET

Roland Martin, among others, is absolutely right. If Roman Polanski is extradited, however, I'd recommend strongly that he be placed on suicide watch.This is clearly a man who dreaded prison three decades ago and now, at age 76, will do anything to avoid it.


Leslie Ellis   October 2nd, 2009 2:24 am ET

Well said Roland, well said.
I can not believe the Hollywood elite that are standing up for a child rapist. Just because the man can put out a decent movie does not excuse him for the crime. I for one will not support those who are calling for his release.
And to Matt the teacher, I am glad I don't have any children in your class. You scare me. And I'm about as liberal as you can get.


hs   October 2nd, 2009 2:25 am ET

Totally agree with Roland. Why should the Polanski guy be made special from other pedophile rapists? I'm sure Woody Allen alike would not say this if the 13-yrs old were his daughter.


LisaJeane   October 2nd, 2009 2:25 am ET

Boycott Martin Scorsese, Harvey Weinstein, Debra Winger, Michael Mann, Mike Nichols and Woody Allen.


James   October 2nd, 2009 2:26 am ET

Roland
You the man!!! Thank God someone has the courage to say it like it is.

Hollywood perverts like Whoopi, Martin Scorsese, Monica Bellucci and Tilda Swinton and truly sicko, Woody Allen are all slime balls that will stand in line to kiss up to Polanski. They have no problem with pedophiles raping children, confessing to their crimes and then fleeing the country.

Do his Hollywood cronies know, care or give a damn about how many other children this pedophile has raped? Some of the Europeans especially the French have no concern with pedophiles raping children. This shows the contempt they have for their own children. If they gave a damn, they would at least have the sick bastard registered as a sex offender and wearing an ankle bracelet while he runs loose on their streets.

Let the sick bastard stay in France, birds of a feather flock together and they deserve him!!! We can only pray that the rest of those Hollywood perverts leave the US and move to France!!!


valwayne   October 2nd, 2009 2:26 am ET

I know not all Democrats and Liberals are supporting Polanski, at least publicly. It seems that a few of them may actually be opposed to a 44 year old man getting a 13 year old child drugged up and drunk, and then performing sex acts on her including anal sodomy. It seems a larger group of Democrats and Liberals at least know it wouldn't be politically correct to actively support Polanski getting away with statutory child rape so they are going on record as opposing child rape whether they actually believe it or not. What is shocking is that so many prominent famous liberal democrats are willing to publicly support Polanski. I don't understand the logic, but they appear to feel it is perfectly acceptable for a 44 year old man to drug up a 13 year old and rape them, then flee from justice. One wonders if Social Services shouldn't pay a visit to the homes of any of them with Children below the current age of consent and/or interview their neigbors children?


Jimbo   October 2nd, 2009 2:26 am ET

Excuse me? "Hollywood" is clueless??? It seems Roland would be the last to refrain from stereotyping a particular group of people.


Chaz Melihercik   October 2nd, 2009 2:27 am ET

I love the line–the facts are not in dispute. Umm...really? I just wish more people would admit that, in all reality, they don't have the facts, they don't know to what exactly or why he "confessed," they don't know the terms of the plea bargain, nor the judge's authority to override that plea bargain, nor the results of his sex offender evaluation, etc. Nobody, including the celebrities, knows all the details. Now the DA says that he lied about lying the day after RP gets arrested. Okay, you're not credible. Enjoy your "no gray area" commentary if that's what helps you keep your lives in order.


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Jimbo   October 2nd, 2009 2:28 am ET

Excuse me? "Hollywood" is clueless??? It seems Roland would be the last to stereotype a particular group of people.


Gloria   October 2nd, 2009 2:31 am ET

This columnist is right on..he tells it like it is. Thank you!!! Hollywood people have there head in the clouds and they NOTHING about leaving in the real world, where people are not burn w/ silver spoons in there mouth and were the COMMON folk don't have money to buy there way out of a prison cell. I hope that man rots for what he did and his movies sucked.


Seth   October 2nd, 2009 2:31 am ET

Polanski is a victim... of his own hubris.

For years, there was little outrage about his crime. His past tragedies, the fact that the victim "forgave" him, the time that had elapsed, and a documentary that showed that the original prosecutor and judge had bungled things all weighed in his favor. But in seeking a pardon, his lawyers taunted authorities and gave them a reason to pursue him. And, every time his friends speak for him, they have used the silliest and most insulting arguments in his defense.

In the past week, he has gone from a man whose crime was largely forgotten to being a man that many are rightfully angry with.

Well said, Rev. Martin!


Frank   October 2nd, 2009 2:31 am ET

@PA " to go AGAINST the wishes of the victim "

It is past the Victim wanting to drop the charges. He plead guilty. This is no different than someone being charged with murder, being found guilty by a jury, then escaping from jail before sentencing. He deserves to rot in prison for the rest of his life.


Jose Luis   October 2nd, 2009 2:31 am ET

Thank you, Roland!!! Also, people fail to mention that Nazis are still being forced to face justice for their crimes, 50+ years AFTER their crimes, why should the legal system forget about Mr. Polanski?


fred   October 2nd, 2009 2:32 am ET

Don't turn this into a liberal vs. right wing lunatic case. I am so far out in left field i can sign autographs for the fans but I think this guy should be locked up. Clear cut case of rape and go to jail.

All the self righteous conservatives out there, I really wish you could see the crimes of the right as clear as you can see this case.


Gustaff   October 2nd, 2009 2:33 am ET

You are clueless. He didn't leave the country because he didn't want to spend some more days in jail. He left because the judge in the case was not going to keep his part of the deal. Deal in this case, folks, that is quite common in our justice system (charges were dismissed under a plea bargain. He pleaded guilty only to engaging in unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor). Also, I don't believe the minor's account at all. As a lawyer I've seen so many cases in which alleged rape victims use the remains of consented intercourse to raise hell (or cash). Yeah, it's hard to swallow, but it happens a lot.

In a worst case than this (one you should be getting really mad at), a CIA Cuban-American agent called Luis Posada Carriles blew up a Cubana de Aviacion airplane in 1976. 73 people died, including the 24 members of the national Cuban Fencing team. Venezuela has asked for extradition of Carriles from the United States for years and years and the US denies the extradition. Keeping a known terrorist on US streets.

So, who's more dangerous? Carriles or Polanski? Why should France send accept extradition when the US denies it whenever is convenient? Who the hell gives a damn about a 30 year old case? The only reason we know about this case is not justice. It is someone in our legal system trying to get some publicity for their careers. Luckily he won't get it.


Jim from NJ   October 2nd, 2009 2:34 am ET

Thank you very very much Roland! You and fellow bloggers on here give me hope that my prediction is correct that half this crap we hear everyday isn't the true reflection of the general populous. I believe that the Media and Hollywood has full control over this country unfortunately. The more we see it the more we believe it. But is it all true?

Finally Hollywood picks the worst thing they could have ever picked to boast their support on. No getting around this Hollywood! You are sick! You are waay overpaid for what you do for a living and you simply can afford to be this way in the head in the name of fame, talent, money and popularity. No wonder why these other countries see us as weak. It's because of you Hollywood!


Kevin   October 2nd, 2009 2:34 am ET

There is no question that Polanski used bad judgment. He was most likely on drugs and still in shock from his wife being slaughtered by the Manson cult. I think anyone would agree that this kind of trauma would affect anyone negatively.

Ultimately, it comes down to the fact that there is no way this man would have or ever will receive a fair and just trail. Thats why he fled or he would have taken the bargain with the DA. The victim wants this case dropped and has said she feels Polanski has more then payed for his crime. (ie.millions of dollars in payment to her and the destruction of his reputation)

So why exactly are people so angry when his personal friends come out and defend him? Is this outcry about justice or is it about people simply finding an outlet to vent their frustration and make themselves feel good about their character? Maybe they hate Hollywood? Who knows.

Personally I don't care what happens to Polanski because I don't consider him a threat to anyone. He and that woman are the only ones that really know what happened that night and I am sure that it was not as cut and dry as some people are envisioning it in their heads. If it were violent rape I am sure that the young woman would be more vocal about it.


Louise   October 2nd, 2009 2:36 am ET

Great article Mr. Martin!

I am so sick of Hollywood thinking that we should all agree with everything they say and do. This was the only boundary I didn't think they would cross, but I guess I was wrong. Polanski is a pedophile, pure and simple.

Also, it doesn't matter if the victim "forgave" Polanski. Forgiveness doesn't excuse responsibility or consequences.


Jon F   October 2nd, 2009 2:36 am ET

Please get over yourself. The now 40-something "victim" has repeatedly asked the LA prosecutor to drop the case. She is sick and tired of the legals system constantly bringing up something that she would rather leave behind.

As the victim, it should be about her rights. I don't think what Polanski did was right – but the victim's rights need to be honored. It sounds here like we are looking at a headlining prosecutor – rather than one who is interested in helping the victim of all of this move on with her life.

So I guess its not about Polanski, it's not about the prosecutors, it about letting a victim get on with her life. Why don't they listen to her?


Peter   October 2nd, 2009 2:37 am ET

Even here in France most people would agree with this. Child rapists aren't liked anywhere!! The only worry is, would his trial be fair and objective? No matter what the crime, everyone should have the right to a fair trial.


Ryan   October 2nd, 2009 2:38 am ET

I absolutely agree. The victim was underage at the time and anyone would support the idea that the government and law enforcement is responsible for protecting the rights of a defenseless child. As such, despite the fact that she now disagrees with further legal proceedings, Roman Polanski deserves to be punished for a crime to which he specifically admitted.
It is utterly astounding to see these out-of-touch liberal filmmakers trying to lend any validity to a criminal and immoral act. We still punish murderers regardless of any persona lhardships and he is no exception. In the end, it remains that all people are responsible for their actions when those actions impede on the freedoms of another.


Kevin   October 2nd, 2009 2:39 am ET

1. Yes, Polanski needs to return to the US to finally face the system he fled from and defied, three decades ago.
2. Mr. Martin, there were questions regarding the judge's conduct in this case, and it's not a completely black-and-white case. You may not be correct about the length of sentence the judge was considering, it could have been a number of years. That said, R.P. should have negotiated a return at least 25 years ago and faced up to his responsibility.
We cannot know the situation for certain, because that trial judge is now dead and cannot explain or defend himself.
3. Posters 'la viro' and 'Michael Hsu' above, you are both crossing the line into bigotry here. And 'Raye', there is a gray area or two in this case. There almost always is. But see my point no. 1 above.
4. Anyone who wishes to view the original statements by the victim and investigators, and the transcripts of pertinent hearings, check out the Smoking Gun site. Remember that none of this was tested in a real trial, Polanski chose to take the plea deal instead.
The crowd that are calling for Polanski's release are clueless.
But the victim has stated, publicly that she doesn't want to see a trial. She moved on and is trying to live her life with her family. Sadly, she may not get this wish, and that's entirely Polanski's fault.
I wish here well.


Greg   October 2nd, 2009 2:41 am ET

Bravo Mr. Martin,

Nothing, not his past or anything else for that matter, escapes the fact that this man is a pervert and a coward. Everyone in hollywood finds a cause and clings on to it... "Roman Polanski is innocent", "Free The West Memphis Three", etc. I'm about as liberal as anyone else in hollywood but they don't even know anything about the real world. They give their support to something for their own publicity. They're as brainless as they come.


Bart   October 2nd, 2009 2:42 am ET

I agree with teh fact that what he did was innapropriate but i do not agree with comments who say that it ws racial and since he is white he is free. I bet if it would be a black person no one would touch him because people would call for racism.


Reinaldo   October 2nd, 2009 2:43 am ET

Thank you, Roland! Your analysis is spot-on as usual.


TS   October 2nd, 2009 2:44 am ET

Roland's analysis is a beacon of light in a world dimmed by Hollywood Celebrity stupidity.

A 13 year-old girl was drugged and among other things sodomized after asking him to stop his sexual advances. That is rape. Not only did he commit the rape but he then jumped bail on the felony charge which is another felony charge in and of itself .

It is positively insane to assert that his skill in his profession is a justification for rape. There are many other directors with far greater talent than Polanski possesses. How many rapes should each of them be allowed? And how many rapes should the best medical doctors, professors or firefighters be allowed? Since they are after all far more vital to our civilization than a movie director should they be allowed even more rapes? How about a murder here and there?

The celebrity response to this case illustrates beautifully how deeply undeserving these famous people are of the enormous esteem afforded to them by the less intellectually endowed members of our population.


Rick Cox   October 2nd, 2009 2:45 am ET

You are so right on this issue, anyone that has fled the country in order to avoid prosecution for an obvious criminal act needs to be brought home to justice. I don't give a hoot who they are, they are not "above the law". I find it utterly disgusting that a bunch of Hollywood elites would rally together to support a perverted,sick old man. Besides, I never saw any of his stupid movies anyway. To be perfectly honest with you, I don't waste my time living in the fantasy world of movies, "stars" or celebrity hoopla. I can find an infinite number of things that are more enjoyable and constructive than watching a movie any day of the week. Just bring that idiot home and lock him up where he belongs!


Cynthia   October 2nd, 2009 2:46 am ET

Thank you for articulating what we are all thinking.
I do not think Steven Speilberg would want a Nazi war criminal to have amnesty just because he or she has escaped the country and years have passed since the heinous crimes.
Why such an outpouring of sympathy among Hollywood elite? Being a gifted artist is not always enough.


Dean   October 2nd, 2009 2:46 am ET

I understand your point here, but there are so many more things that happened in this case. There are issues around the judge. Angelica hustons was quoted as saying she didn't look 13, and what was this girl doing at a house without her parents, what was she expecting. What were her parents expecting. The list of people that want the case to go away even includes the girl. Should that not be taken into account.


Sarah   October 2nd, 2009 2:47 am ET

Just because a mother says it is okay for a child to go to a famous Director's home does not mean she consented to the rape of her daughter in her absence.

Of course the victim wants it to be over with. This does not mean it did not happen or that the incident was made out to be more forceful than it truly was. It simply means that she does not want to relive it as she likely spent years trying to heal from the damage this experience caused.

He committed a crime. He should face the same penalties as the grocery store bagger or the salesman living in blue collar or middle class America. His talent and his status should bare no weight in his sentencing. Until we can recognize rape in the judicial system as a violent crime worthy of harsh punishment women and their stories of rape will continue to be delegitimatized.


Trey   October 2nd, 2009 2:49 am ET

Great commentary, Mr Martin.

A person's level of fame should have no relevance when it comes to justice. If you break the law, you deserve to be punished.


Andrew   October 2nd, 2009 2:49 am ET

Well put. Thank you for the facts. These people supporting his release should be grilled.


Shirley   October 2nd, 2009 2:50 am ET

Great article, Roland.
Spot on.
I wonder if these same Hollywood idiots ever faced anything so disgusting as the then 13 yr old girl.
And Debra Winger....shouldnt she be under a rock somewhere?......as a woman, can she place herself in the girl's shoes for a millisecond?


John   October 2nd, 2009 2:51 am ET

Great article. Polanski needs to serve at least a few years for his barbaric crime against humanity.


David, Tampa   October 2nd, 2009 2:52 am ET

If we are going to get all excited about this incident, we need to get all excited about ALL rape in this Country. Let’s start in the Black community. What do ya figure? Maybe 10,000 incidents a week with underage girls? At least. Let’s stop prison rape. A couple million incidents a year on that one. There are a lot of young women that are willingly prostituting themselves. I just can’t get all excited about this deal. There is a whole lot of this going on out there. I suspect that those who are most outraged have skeletons in their cubby holes.


_mark   October 2nd, 2009 2:54 am ET

Roland you have a very valid point. Fame and $ can buy you out of trouble, but there is no excuse for other famous people to stand behind this man or his actions. Nice article.


MCordero   October 2nd, 2009 2:57 am ET

Well Said!!!

Fist time I read something about Polanski that makes sence.


Sandy C   October 2nd, 2009 2:57 am ET

Someone above said 13 year olds lie. And, I know people offered a plea bargain sometimes say they are guilty when they are not. Was DNA evidence linked directly to Polanski? She said she was not a virgin. Did her mother know this when she called the police? Was she afraid of her mother? Is it even possible that it was the set up of a rich man? I think that recently happened to John Travolta.

Might she have offered or agreed to pose nude? Nude pictures were taken of Brook Shields at 10. Things were viewed VERY differently then.

I was in my 20's in the 70's and my experience is that there was a very different set of ethics in place in the 70's. Free Love and Sex had been the theme for years. A lot of the 13 and 14 year olds I knew in the 60's were actively having sex. That whole Lolita fantasy was actually believed.

When I was 16, I went to Los Angeles for the first time expecting to see all the famous people and places and magic I had watched in movies and on TV. Instead, I arrived the day the bodies of Sharon Tate and the others killed by the Manson family were found. Samantha Geimer talks about how negatively all the publicity she experienced affected her.

What I heard on the radio as we spent time at my great-grandmother's house was comparable to what I heard on the radio the day Kennedy was shot - mind numbing, unbelievable, insane, tragic, a woman about to give birth stabbed 16 times. And, Charles Manson. I heard about it for years and years. How would her husband bear all that negative publicity all those years?

I realize that Roman Polanski's wife of 20 years is younger than the victim of this crime. However, Isn't the age difference between many men and their wives about the same as theirs? There were a lot of older men very attracted to younger women and they were not considered pedophiles - it was the norm. There was a time it was the rule of thumb. Older men had money and young women went after older men and their parents encouraged it. I saw it all the time.

Is it possible, maybe, that it was totally "consensual" between them? And, did it happen between them? Perhaps only photos were taken. Perhaps the person who did this to the girl was not Roman Polanski? And, if it was, and if it was "consensual," and it was acceptable at the time for a man his age to consider himself enormously lucky in this situation, then maybe there are some shades of grey to this?

And, perhaps her family assumed that he would put her in a movie or something else, and he said no, and then what had been acceptable to everyone suddenly was not?

Yes, a 43 year old man sleeping with a 13 year old IS WRONG. We clearly know that now. And, in certain situations in the 70's, this might not have been as clear.

if he did this with a 70's mindset under certain circumstances, where he might truly have believed that it was aggreeable to all, is he still a threat? He lives now in a society that KNOWS this is wrong, unlike when he was younger? Has he learned from his error? I'm hot saying this because he is famous. I would say this about any 76 year old who lived at that time in that society and went through the mental horror he did at the death of his pregnant wife..

People did not "deal with their feelings" much then in my experience. Someone who's wife died like Sharon Tate did might be like a person coming back from war. And, for a while, this might make them afraid of women their own age. I think Sharon Tate was around the same age as Roman Polanski.

Maybe the whole thing is not as simple as it looks.


bevo   October 2nd, 2009 2:57 am ET

The now adult victim wants the case behind her. Each time it makes the news again and again for 3 decades, she feels victimized again. The reason the case has dragged on for 32 years is that the perpetrator–who admitted to the crime (actually a lesser charge made in a plea deal)–skipped out before his sentencing. It is Mr Polanski, not the prosecutors, who has allowed this case to last so long. It is he who continues to victimize her, not the legal system.

If my 13 yr old child, male or female, were drugged, photographed nude, raped and sodomized, the rapist wouldn't need to worry about serving time because I would kill him myself. It doesn't matter whether or not the sex was consensual–statutory rape is sex by an adult with a minor, period. If Polanski had faced the music like a man 32 yrs ago, he might be free now in his senior years and still have been able to contribute artistically to society. He has had his freedom and success for 3 decades–time to pay the piper.

His experience during the Holocaust and the tragedy of his wife and unborn son's murder are horrible but those events did not give him the right to molest a minor or to put himself above the law. Should we stop hunting Nazi criminals or should we release the Manson followers simply because decades have passed? Polanski has never paid for his crime; justice has been evaded by him and not been served. Hopefully that will change soon.


Deb   October 2nd, 2009 2:57 am ET

I completely agree. I'm very liberal minded and am frequently like minded with some of those Hollywood types...but, on this issue, I can't think of one good reason why people would support someone who raped a child. It wasn't rape-rape>??? What's that supposed to mean? It might not have been violent. The victim may not have felt she was forced. I don't know what circumstances were in play. What I do know is he was an adult and she was a child. I don't need to know anything else. It was wrong then and is still wrong...and he should have to face a court and jury about it.


Janet Lee   October 2nd, 2009 3:01 am ET

Of all the atrocities in the world that these celebs could have champion this is the cause,Polinski,that they decided to defend.I'm a big movie lover but I will not be wasting a dime to see any supporters of this rapist.Sidebar, Woody Allen sit down and shut up,Whoopi is there a Jew any where on earth whose ass you won't kiss,I will not be watching the view .


Andrew Kreitz   October 2nd, 2009 3:04 am ET

I don't usually agree with your commentary, but you're spot on here. No man is above the law.


A. Cruz   October 2nd, 2009 3:07 am ET

Thank you so much, Roland, for the truth! I am so disgusted...
And to think these Hollywood types pretend to be "enlightened" when it comes to social issues and social justice. They are nothing but hypocrites, defending their own of the most heinous form of crimes.

And anyone that would defend, minimize, justify or rationalize the drugging and raping of a minor child (and under the age of 14) think of all the following laws that apply (whether they he was originally charged with them or not—they still apply):

"Corruption of a minor"
"Lewd and lascivious acts with a minor under the age of 14"
"Rape" [with multiple sections and subdivisions applying in this case]
“Unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor”
“Obscene Matter” & “Harmful Matter” [taking nude pictures for of a child -sexual purposes
“Child Molestation”
“Lewd Acts with a Child”
“Statutory Rape” (which I disagree with because the victim was 13 NOT 17!!!)
“Sexual Assault of a Child”

PS—Re: Matt above – as an educator myself I would be very scared if you were a teacher in one of my children’s schools. And 2nd grade??? God save us!


Tony   October 2nd, 2009 3:08 am ET

Not often do i agree with Mr. Martin, but this time he has hit the nail on the head. Matt blames the girls mother and others bring "art" and the holocaust into the picture. Be for real people, this was an evil act by a vain man who thought his celebrity placed him above everything. Time to pay a long overdue debt.


Jim   October 2nd, 2009 3:09 am ET

Well said Roland. There should be a boycott of all who support Polanski's flee from justice. As for the victim, it seems that Polanski's money has now purchased her support as well. Nevertheless, as a matter of principle, this man cannot be allowed to escape his just rewards simply because he has been able to buy time with and through the French. As for France, the only problem it has is that it is inhabited by the French people.


Sheri   October 2nd, 2009 3:09 am ET

Dear Roland S. Martin, you are a courageous man. I commend your boldness for “not perverting justice by siding with the crowd.”

Whatever the pretense was to lure a 13 year old “GIRL” into the arms of a 31 year old “MAN” and his deliberate actions against her – does not seem to matter much to our numb society these days –

For such irony was written about long ago
by W. S. Gilbert in his Ballad “My Dream”

The other night, from cares exempt,
I slept—and what d'you think I dreamt?
I dreamt that somehow I had come
To dwell in Topsy- Turveydom!—
Where vice is virtue—virtue, vice:
Where nice is nasty—nasty, nice:
Where right is wrong and wrong is right —
Where white is black and black is white…

*Kudos to the Los Angeles County district attorney's office …


Joy   October 2nd, 2009 3:10 am ET

thank god somebody in the mainstream had enough spine to say this. for those of you who are in ANY way trying to defend him or claim that is wasn't forced, consider a few things. first of all both the victim and the pervert himself have stated that she repeatedly said no. no means no, and when a female says no, that's the end of it, or at least it should be. secondly in the US, you can't be 44 and have sex with a 13 year-old. even if she hadn't begged him to stop, it would still be rape. the facts of the case have NEVER been called into question, but this has entirely been a matter of polanski simply being out of the country.

as for the victim wanting it dropped, i don't blame her at all. however there are scores of victims of various crimes that would love to for them to be dropped and move on, but that isn't justice. if the justice system dropped every case that a worn out victim wanted to forget, i shudder to think how many criminals would go free.

the hollywood community is clearly too far removed from the rest of the world to understand how sick this man is. whoopi goldberg and others like her would be well served to sit down and shut up on this one.


Chris Miller   October 2nd, 2009 3:16 am ET

You are right on. Mr. P. needs to pay for his crime. Also, for those who think he should get off because his victim wants us to let him off. Have you ever heard of the Stockholm syndrome or the theory of cognitive dissonance. You should educate yourselves a bit and realize these abuse victims are mentally scarred and can't confront their captors because it is mentally painful. That's why kidnapping victims, battered women, and abused children don't seek to escape or confront their abusers. Jaycee Lee Dugard is a good example. The best thing we can do for these victims and future victims is put their abusers where they belong.... jail.


cj   October 2nd, 2009 3:18 am ET

I am so pleased you spoke up and did not try to soften your response. You are correct and said what needed to be said. This could have been any persons daughter - it is never right, not for anyone of any age to do this to another person. Let us hope his money does not buy his way out of this -- ha ha, like that will happen. They will probably give him a few days and a slap and and a nudge and let him pretend to be a victim who overcomes his ordeal. He caused great trauma to a very young person and nothing will ever change that.


Peter   October 2nd, 2009 3:20 am ET

Natalie Portman signed this? That's depressing. This is just like every other time a celeb is guilty of a crime, their talent outshines their offenses. He is a master film maker, but who cares? I am in film school and pray I get a job one of these days doing what I truly enjoy, but where is the sense in supporting this guy. Even more so, I own many of his films (because they are fantatic), but how could I ever defend his crimes? In the end, your talent does not make you immune to the law. To those who are arguing whether it was "forced" or not......really? Does this matter? I understand the man went through a lot. If my wife was murdered in the matter that Sharon Tate was, i would have gone insane, no doubt. BUT, that does not give you an excuse to perform a crime yourself. Also, he confessed, why is this a debatable point? Its really sad though that people are on opposite sides of the fence on this. If we cant agree on whether or not a man who raped (and when she is that young, that is the term like it or not) a child should be in jail....what the hell will we ever agree on. We have really fallen.


Yak   October 2nd, 2009 3:22 am ET

Actually there are a lot of gray areas in this case. Of course what he did was wrong. There is no question of that but you have to ask yourself why did the prosecutors allow him to plea to one count of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor? What about the other numerous charges including rape by use of drugs and sodomy. Why were these other charges dismissed? Was the evidence weak or not there? Was there some doubt about the rape? Knowing how the justice system works in the US and some of the draconian sentences I don't blame him for being scared. I mean look how many people are serving hard time for pot possession. It's ludicrous. And the sex crime sentences are frightening. No matter how you slice it, rape is wrong but fifty years for sticking a penis into somebody for a few minutes? Does that seem right?


Kevin   October 2nd, 2009 3:23 am ET

I get that rape is rape no matter who does it. My only question is how should the legal system react if the victim of a crime no longer wishes to pursue the criminal, as is the situation in this case? We are talking about 23 years here. The victim doesn't want this affecting her life anymore. Doesn't this do nothing but re-victimize the victim? Who are we really protecting here? After studying our founding father's wishes for this country, I'm under the impression that the victim has a say. Besides, whether you like it or not, he served the time he was given. The courts had their chance to act and they clearly did a terrible job. You can't blame someone for wanting their God given freedom, especially when it's handed right back to them with nothing more than a slap on the wrist.


Sylvia   October 2nd, 2009 3:23 am ET

Finally!!! Someone in their right mind is speaking out!


Joe   October 2nd, 2009 3:26 am ET

I'm a very liberal gay man, and I completely agree with this article. The members of Hollywood who stand up for this child rapist are sick! Polanski should go to prison. I feel bad for the victim, because she understandably wants to forgive and forget, but it's Polanski's fault this happened, not the media or the legal system. The only justice is for Polanski to go to prison.


Mishal   October 2nd, 2009 3:30 am ET

As usual Mr. Martin called it like it is!!! We love ya Martin!


roxy   October 2nd, 2009 4:40 am ET

May the LIGHT of heaven shine through this sad darkness. Darkness of the very soul of this society. A place where children are not healthy, educated or safe. Since he's such a magnificent director/filmmaker why not be sure while he faces his fate he also makes a substantial donation to survivors of this tragic perversion. Thanks Roland for remaining in the spirit of light and truth. You are brave!


Al   October 2nd, 2009 7:15 am ET

to the people talking about it should be dropped bc the victim wants, to be honest its about much more than the victim, its about the principle, he committed a rime we have laws and he clearly broke them, its great the victim has moved on, but to leave him free would be injustice


Bill   October 2nd, 2009 7:15 am ET

Thank you Mr. Martin, for hitting the nail on the head.


James   October 2nd, 2009 7:35 am ET

Oh, don’t forget there was a trial with very vivid testimony about Polanski crimes that were committed against the victim. Being a man of position and wealth, Polanski was able to plea bargain and almost get away with his crimes. After becoming a convicted criminal, he had the means and chose to flee and avoid sentencing.

If the French people have one ounce of moral fiber left, they will throw out there government over this scandal, but don't hold your breath.

It will be interesting to see if the Swiss have the balls to return Polanski to the US, but again don't hold your breath.

It took our US and California officials 32 years to get their act together and the voters are now watching closely to see if they can act competently.

Our President and First Lady have two children and one is about the same age of the victim in this case. I believe as parents they will be watching with a keen interest as all parents should be. As citizens everyone should have a vested interest and desire to see the US laws applied and enforced equally and fairly to all. People with status and wealth should not be allowed to escape the arm of the law for 32 years as happened in this case.


Linda   October 2nd, 2009 8:25 am ET

Perfectly stated Roland. Thank you.

La Viro,when did this become a "Jewish" issue? But thanks for taking the time from your Neo-Nazi group meeting to comment on this issue.


Fed Up   October 2nd, 2009 9:37 am ET

I wish actors, singers, dancers and other "entertainers" would just shut up, Shut Up, SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!

It doesn’t matter one iota if Roman Polansky is a so-called award-winning director. It wouldn’t matter if he were a doctor, lawyer, stock broker, car wash attendant, taxi driver or a bell hop; he is a convicted rapist who hasn’t paid for his crime. Rape is still a crime isn’t it?


Maggie   October 2nd, 2009 9:54 am ET

Being a victim does not grant one permission to victimize others. Excellent piece, Roland. Thank you.


Jeffrey Williams   October 2nd, 2009 10:47 am ET

All you have to do to shut up all of these Hollywood hypocrites is to ask them this one question:

What if it was a conservative Republican, or a Catholic priest that did it?


Mike L.   October 2nd, 2009 12:38 pm ET

Thank you for writing the article Martin. I'm deeply disturbed by the attitude shared by many in Europe and Hollywood that this child rape case shouldn't be prosecuted. These people are sick.


Jonee   October 2nd, 2009 1:04 pm ET

Everyone who thinks Hollywood is more depraved that the rest of America is fooling themselves. Stop using moral outrage to wash you of your own sins.


Todd Sherrer   October 2nd, 2009 2:12 pm ET

Behind murder, rape is the worst crime anyone can commit towards another individual. It disgusts me that actors and directors I once enjoyed watching are running to to this rapists defense. Mr. Martin, I wish more people had the platform you have to voice this opinion. Thank you for your piece.


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