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December 18, 2009

An American's journey from US Soldier to Top Terrorist, all with the Army's blessing

Posted: 08:40 PM ET

By Pentagon Producer Larry Shaughnessy

Ft. Irwin, California (CNN) - It's strange to think I grew up just a few miles from the home of the most-wanted terrorist in the Mojave Desert.

Nearly every U.S. Army unit that goes to Iraq these days wants to capture Abdul Qadeer. He's responsible for uncounted IED bombings, suicide attacks, assassinations and other terrorist attacks. He is sometimes compared to Osama Bin Laden. American commanders offer rewards like five-day passes to any soldier who can capture Qadeer. But even though he often mingles with the crowds just a few feet from American soldiers, he's never been captured. He laughs knowing that he's been able to outsmart tens of thousands of soldiers.

"It's always good to take pride in your work," he says. To hide his identity he covers his face with the traditional Iraqi scarf, known as kaffiyeh.

He speaks without a hint of a Middle Eastern accent. That's because he's not from the Middle East, he's from Central Maryland. In fact, his father and I went to the same high school. We can't give you "Qadeer's" real name, you'll understand why in a few moments, so I'll just call him Ron.

Ron is not really a terrorist, he just plays one in the California desert. He's part of the unit at Ft. Irwin's National Training Center that gives troops headed to Iraq or Afghanistan their final intense dose of training before deployment. The goal: To make sure the soldiers experience all the dangers and threats they can expect in the war zone so they can learn from their mistakes before they deploy.

So even though he's a U.S. Army officer, Ron doesn't shave, his hair is relatively long and he doesn't wear a uniform. He dresses in a long shirt called a thowb and when TJ Holmes and I interviewed him for CNN, he wrapped his face in the kaffiyeh. "Abdul Qadeer"'s look is just one way Ft. Irwin's commanders strive to make the National Training Center as real as possible.

"If the fear for your life is 100 percent stress, I want training to be 120-150 percent stress," as one trainer put it to me.

The stress comes from simulated attacks by Qadeer's terrorists. Staging ambushes and bombings against U.S. troops is not what Ron expected when he joined the military.

"It's a difficult situation to put yourself in because you are trained to be a soldier and you have to turn around 180 degrees and become and insurgent now," Ron said.

He does it because he knows the training pays off.

"The better we are, the better they are in-country and we've seen that. We've come back where a soldier will say what you did here definitely helped me," he explained.

But why the secrecy? Intelligence is an important part of the Ft. Irwin training. What one unit learns is passed on to the next unit to come through the training rotation, just as in Iraq or Afghanistan. So far, what little intelligence the trainees have gathered on Qadeer is a picture of him with his face covered by his kaffiyeh.

"The secrecy is the biggest thing because whenever a unit comes here, they want to find me. Their ‘number one’ on the list is Abdul Qadeer," he said. "’You are in charge of al Qaeda, we need to find you,' I've heard every single battalion commander say."

The soldiers really want to find Ron and get a four-day pass as a reward. Nobody has suceeded.

After Ron finished his interview with TJ Holmes for our television report, he and I spoke about our connection back home in Maryland. We figure his father was in school with some of my older brothers and sisters. Ron went to another school in the same county. I told him his alma mater has been doing very well in football. Not surprisingly, the most wanted man in the Mojave desert can't find the time to keep up with Maryland high school football scores.


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A. Smith, Oregon   December 18th, 2009 11:20 pm ET

Soldiers preparing for war and life and death situations are not Sherlock Holmes that have the patience and aptitude to look at a situation to put the dots together which lead invariably to the person you are seeking.

The Army should hire specialists that specifically have senses and cognitive functions which are honed and tuned for that precise and exacting capacity.


Vinay   December 21st, 2009 12:28 pm ET

the training exercise should not be broadcast to public. once this video is available on youtube, any one in Afghanistan could use it for training purpose.


Rich from the Poconos   December 21st, 2009 12:35 pm ET

Been through there 3 times in my career, it's been a trip every time and the best training ever.


Rakkasan   December 21st, 2009 12:58 pm ET

I've been to NTC 3 times in preparation for deployments to Iraq and it's a cakewalk in comparison to what I've seen/done over there. Nice try Ron.


Kevin Reopel, Feeding Hills, Mass.   December 21st, 2009 1:22 pm ET

I received the following story today by e-mail. Consider using it tonight on the program:

(I don't know if the picture of the toddler sleeping on the soldier, in the chair, made it with the attachment below. I can e-mail it separately if requested.)

BELOW IS THE REAL WINNER OF THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE!

Wouldn't it be fitting if this went completely around the world!.....

John Gebhardt's wife, Mindy, said that this little girl's entire family was executed. The insurgents intended to execute the little girl also, and shot her in the head...but they failed to kill her. She was cared for in John's hospital and is healing up, but continues to cry and moan. The nurses said John is the only one who seems to calm her down, so John has spent the last four nights holding her while they both slept in that chair. The girl is coming along with her healing.
He is a real Star of the war, and represents what America is trying to do.
This, my friends, is worth sharing. Go for it!! You'll never see things like this in the news. Please keep this going. Nothing will happen if you don't, but the American public needs to see pictures like this and needs to realize that what we're doing over there is making a difference.. Even if it is just one little girl at a time.
James Gates U. S. Navy


Daryl   December 21st, 2009 1:26 pm ET

I'm an old delta ranger. I'll come find him. There won't be a BFR left out there to hide under.

If not one troop has succeeded in finding a mock terrorist leader in the midst of a training environment, then the army needs to either provide better training or locate some better troops.

I need a mission.


Theman   December 21st, 2009 1:40 pm ET

I like this. I think it's a crucial training.


Pam   December 21st, 2009 2:05 pm ET

Helloooo...Mo"J"ave, not Mo"H"ave.


Jeff Portlance   December 21st, 2009 2:30 pm ET

As a former soldier who has trained at Fort Irwin 3 times. Same training, different enemy I guess...LOL I loved my experience there. I learned allot both militarily and personally.

Thanks agin for the story.


pat   December 21st, 2009 2:49 pm ET

U want to look 4 Bin laden and his deputy just follow my instructions they are about 1,300 to 1,400 miles SE of Kabul they never cross to Pakistan border good luck to finding them SOB


Mike   December 21st, 2009 2:53 pm ET

The accuracy of this simulation is unbelievable... I mean, Quadeer's never been caught either!!!!


Iron BDE   December 21st, 2009 3:01 pm ET

Story needs updating. 3rd BDE, 4th ID caught Qadeer right before Thanksgiving. (Found him hiding in a porta-potti.) Great training though.


John   December 21st, 2009 3:07 pm ET

I was part of a unit that trained the Airforce Pilots how to evade Russian radar out there in the desert by death valley.I hope our training helped our people also


Sam   December 21st, 2009 3:13 pm ET

Mike December 21st, 2009 2:53 pm ET

The accuracy of this simulation is unbelievable... I mean, Quadeer's never been caught either!!!!

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha


Chip H   December 21st, 2009 3:21 pm ET

If this pretend OBL hasn't been apprehended after a year, hiding inside a Marine military base the size of Rhode Island, ... what are we doing in Afghanistan, with 1,000's of real villages like these, the size of Texas?!!


chris   December 21st, 2009 3:28 pm ET

this is the kind of training our troops need to survive in iraq and afghanistan


sabrdblab   December 21st, 2009 3:34 pm ET

A Smith, this is exactly what we need....we need Soldiers to think and develop situations, the men there are specialists...a lot of the role players are Iraqis, Soldiers, Sudanese etc..

having been through there twice before two deployments to Iraq, where i am at now, it is hands down the best and most impressive training the army has to offer...


Ryan R   December 21st, 2009 3:35 pm ET

That is funny. You went all the way to disclose his identity, but did put down that he is interested in football, and gave info on his approximate age (went to school with older brothers and sisters) and the county where he went to school in Maryland. I'm sure it wouldn't take the secret service to find out this man's identity!


Adam   December 21st, 2009 3:57 pm ET

So, we're looking for someone who's father went to either Northwest High School or Seneca Valley High School in Montgomery County, Maryland, (Mr. Shaughnassy is from Germantown, according to a quick Google search – served by these two schools), is young enough to be the son of someone whose father could've gone to school with Shaughnassy's older siblings (figure late 20s?), also went to high school in Montgomery County, and is in the Army. I suspect a resourceful soldier with a little time on his hands before he went to training could probably narrow the list of potential "Ron"s down to maybe 10 people? Track down the other nine and bingo – four days of drunken shenanigans off-base. Would it require a little work? Sure. Impossible? I feel like probably not.

The internet is rife with services which, for $60.00, will do this kind of work for you. Is it cheating? Nah – all's fair in love and war training.


Marine in 2   December 21st, 2009 4:00 pm ET

Let me at 'em. After spending the past ten years of my life living in the mountains, I think it'll be easy. I'm used to this stuff :) Army... good job guys.


Brad   December 21st, 2009 4:02 pm ET

I have been to NTC three times and it is very real. It is the best military training I encountered while serving my country. If only our Commander in Chief had half as much military training as myself and many others, we would be in a better situation right now in Afghanistan and every where else instead of apologizing to the world.


Ashley   December 22nd, 2009 8:57 am ET

My husband is in the brigade that you were filming. I just wanted to say thanks. It's really nice to see what he was doing while we was away.


Ron's father   December 22nd, 2009 9:51 am ET

Adam could not be farther from the truth. Nice try, dude, but it is tougher than you think.


Mike   December 22nd, 2009 6:27 pm ET

My son is in the brigade they filmed. Lt Col Sierra is his CO. They have now deployed and I am damned happy they went to the NTC. No matter what some of these posts say it is great training. The NTC is the best in the world at this sort of thing. For all of the posts who think they can do a better job than our military is doing or want to knock or make fun of them- ENLIST AND PROVE IT. STOP HIDING BEHIND THE INTERNET AND DO WHAT YOU THINK YOU CAN DO.


Larry Shaughnessy   December 23rd, 2009 1:14 pm ET

I am happy that all of you have read my story on the training at the NTC at Ft. Irwin, California. I hope you have also seen TJ Holmes' fine television reports. Part 3 airs Tonight (Wed. Dec. 23rd) on Campbell Brown at 8pm EST.

As for Adam's comments on Abdul Qadeer and his assumptions about where he and I are from. Nice try. But incorrect.

Iron BDE, thanks for the heads up. We'll be updating the story as soon as possible.

Again, thank you all for reading.


Kevin   December 23rd, 2009 2:25 pm ET

Do any of you tax payer's realize how much it cost's you to put one unit, like the above through a training cycle there, it's in the million's, not even factoring in all the role player's they employ there, when all this training can be done in Iraq polluting their desert's instead of our's for a fraction of the cost's!!! Or hold off on that, that might cut into their rap making video and poetry writing time they need downrange. So tax payer's instead of little Johnny getting financial aid this year, seem's like you will be financing more fake scenario's at the NTC, what a joke!!


Tony Solomon   December 28th, 2009 11:19 am ET

I enjoyed seeing this video. I was stationed at Ft. Irwin for 4 years. It has grown since I was there. What I'm wondering is, where is pt. 2, since this video is pt. 1.


Alejandro   January 1st, 2010 1:32 am ET

No Batallion commander have capture Ron. The training is great to prepare for war. What intel does Ron Know that makes it hard for Batallion to Capture him. How Al Queada blends in society.


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